"You have been invited to Queen Amaranthine's Summer Ball ... "Just because the Barbarian is all "ERMERGERD SMERSH AND STERFF!!", even with all of his extra hit/saves, by no means makes him incredible.
Every class has it's weaknesses, and a good GM should challenge those weaknesses fairly often.
Be honest. None of the PCs will want to be around a bunch of stuffy rich people. There's a reason they hang with the Barbarian in taverns most of the time.
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On the first page someone mentioned that Paladins require actual thought to run. That's absurd, you could code a machine to run a paladin.
Turn Start:
IF maxHP - currentHP > averageLOH, LOH
IF BBEG, Smite AND Martial
ELSE Martial
With some bonus lines for Litany of Ultra-Smite, and Hero's Defiance.
On the first page someone mentioned that Paladins require actual thought to run. That's absurd, you could code a machine to run a paladin.
Turn Start:
IF currentHP < averageLOH, LOH
IF BBEG, Smite AND Martial
ELSE MartialWith some bonus lines for Litany of Ultra-Smite, and Hero's Defiance.
1. maxHP - currentHP > averageLOH.
2. LOH and Smite are mutually exclusive.3. "Martial" is not defined.
That's a "F".
Hastily done, good catch on maxHP-currentHP.
Martial is predefined in the system though. But for you:
IF adjacentEnemy, fullAttack
ELSE Charge
Hastily done, good catch on maxHP-currentHP.
Martial is predefined in the system though. But for you:
IF adjacentEnemy, fullAttack
ELSE Charge
I'll argue that it's implied, but not predefined. But good point, I admit a mistake on that front.
"I am Kalthar Dragonsmasher. I guard His Majesty's Pomeranian."But every player appreciates the humor value of putting Kalthar Dragonsmasher in a tuxedo.Or guarding a group of 5 year olds
Or responsible for the King's puppy
We've had our fun, but I think this is a point worth raising. If you view Pathfinder as a series of combats, then the barbarian (or any class with high DPR, really) is going to seem pretty darn overpowered. On the other hand, if the GM includes multiple types of challenges (social, puzzle, skill, and combat), then the barbarian becomes less overpowered. Kalthar Dragonshmasher gets to show off in pure combat situations, but Deckard Silver-Tongue is in the spotlight everywhere.
The best GMs, IMO, will create scenarios that include all types of challenges. An encounter that includes a massive ogre and his pet dragon (combat), hostages who have to be calmed and persuaded (social), and locked doors (skill) would be an ideal sort of situation.
A Barbarian is fantastic outside of combat as well since 4 skill points, great intimidate synergy, and utility effects like Spell Sunder are all incredibly useful.
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A Barbarian is fantastic outside of combat as well since 4 skill points, great intimidate synergy, and utility effects like Spell Sunder are all incredibly useful.
We've had our fun, but I think this is a point worth raising. If you view Pathfinder as a series of combats, then the barbarian (or any class with high DPR, really) is going to seem pretty darn overpowered. On the other hand, if the GM includes multiple types of challenges (social, puzzle, skill, and combat), then the barbarian becomes less overpowered. Kalthar Dragonshmasher gets to show off in pure combat situations, but Deckard Silver-Tongue is in the spotlight everywhere.The best GMs, IMO, will create scenarios that include all types of challenges. An encounter that includes a massive ogre and his pet dragon (combat), hostages who have to be calmed and persuaded (social), and locked doors (skill) would be an ideal sort of situation.
Agreed, Barbarian is easily the best non magical class in the game for shining out of combat and does well in combat as well. Honestly I'd just scrap Fighters in my games and make them play Barbarians.
Well, Barbarians ARE magical. They're just not casters.
Other gaming systems like Legend have excluded the Fighter, likely because badass normals are stuck at a certain super weight compared to magical beings.