Nephril |
I have a half-elf ranger in our group who swears he found online where it states he can take precise shot at level one. i disagree and cant find any wording or ruling that would allow a ranger to take precise shot at level 1.
obviously if he was a human he could take point blank then precise but he is half elf so just the 1 feat. if anyone has anything to say id appreciate it.
LazarX |
I have a half-elf ranger in our group who swears he found online where it states he can take precise shot at level one. i disagree and cant find any wording or ruling that would allow a ranger to take precise shot at level 1.
obviously if he was a human he could take point blank then precise but he is half elf so just the 1 feat. if anyone has anything to say id appreciate it.
You're right, he's wrong. There's nothing else to say unless you've left out something.
LazarX |
Nephril wrote:You're right, he's wrong. There's nothing else to say unless you've left out something.I have a half-elf ranger in our group who swears he found online where it states he can take precise shot at level one. i disagree and cant find any wording or ruling that would allow a ranger to take precise shot at level 1.
obviously if he was a human he could take point blank then precise but he is half elf so just the 1 feat. if anyone has anything to say id appreciate it.
Also whenever someone swears they've "found something online", it's their onus to show it to you or it doesn't exist.
Kazaan |
If I had to guess, your player is conflating the Half-Elf quality that they count as both Human and Elf to mean that they get all the Racial traits that both Humans and Elves get in addition to those unique to Half-Elves. Advise him that, as a H-Elf he doesn't automatically get the Human bonus feat or any other trait listed under the Human entry but not under H-Elf, nor does he get automatic proficiency with all Elven weapons, bows, etc.
Xaratherus |
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I'm curious how the conversation went.
"Hey I found this way to take precise shot at level 1 with my Half-Elf Ranger."
"Oh yeah, cool! What is it?"
"Um, The Internet -- yeah, that's the ticket."
"What/where on the internet?"
"THE INTERNET, OKAY!?!?! Stop grilling me!"
"Because Internet" is a citation that should always be questioned. ;)
Zhayne |
MyTThor wrote:"Because Internet" is a citation that should always be questioned. ;)I'm curious how the conversation went.
"Hey I found this way to take precise shot at level 1 with my Half-Elf Ranger."
"Oh yeah, cool! What is it?"
"Um, The Internet -- yeah, that's the ticket."
"What/where on the internet?"
"THE INTERNET, OKAY!?!?! Stop grilling me!"
Especially if you're Timmy Turner's parents.
Xaratherus |
Xaratherus wrote:Especially if you're Timmy Turner's parents.MyTThor wrote:"Because Internet" is a citation that should always be questioned. ;)I'm curious how the conversation went.
"Hey I found this way to take precise shot at level 1 with my Half-Elf Ranger."
"Oh yeah, cool! What is it?"
"Um, The Internet -- yeah, that's the ticket."
"What/where on the internet?"
"THE INTERNET, OKAY!?!?! Stop grilling me!"
Timmy's dad: Where did you get that car\robot\laser cannon\cybernetic replica of Abraham Lincoln?
Timmy: Uhh . . . the Internet?
Timmy's dad: Works for me!
cnetarian |
I suspect it came from the original wording of the adopted trait allowed a player to select a racial trait from the adopted race (see this post), which was often incorrectly read to include allowing a half-elf to get a bonus feat as an adopted human. This has been changed for clarity and now the adopted race trait refers to "race traits" instead of "racial traits".
Zhayne |
I suspect it came from the original wording of the adopted trait allowed a player to select a racial trait from the adopted race (see this post), which was often incorrectly read to include allowing a half-elf to get a bonus feat as an adopted human. This has been changed for clarity and now the adopted race trait refers to "race traits" instead of "racial traits".
Or perhaps the Unearthed Arcana Flaws system.
Gwen Smith |
Not possible. There are several ways to get Precise Shot by level 1 (fighter / zen archer / human / etc.), the ranger can pick it up by level 2 (crossbow fighting style from APG).
Also Divine Hunter (paladin), and the original Archery combat style from Core.
(For longbow-wielding rangers, though, Crossbow style is oddly the better choice, because you get all the normal feats and Deadly Aim as options. Since Archery style was built before Deadly Aim existed, that feat isn't available for Archery style.)