Yup, which means it was Vin Diesel who
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Aaah - my wife came into the room at that point and completely understood why I was a bit tearful. I was slightly hurt that none of the kids really got it. Mind you, that was 4 years ago - time to revisit!
Thanks for reminding me Mikaze :-)
WRT GotG - I liked the humour of Starlord (lol), and the aerial action of Ship. I liked the music (and the backstory of it) and I kinda liked the rest of the cast. Without much knowledge of the comics, it boils down to how the actors portray them, and so far I have:
Chris Pratt as Peter Quill / Star-Lord: I like him in the trailer, I liked him in the Lego Movie trailers (seeing THAT tomorrow). The character appears to be an 'everyman with wits and humour' which is fine by me.
Zoe Saldana as Gamora: she looks good and I know Zoe can do action. Whether the acting is right I can't tell from the trailer.
Dave Bautista as Drax the Destroyer: totally not interested in him (from the trailer).
Vin Diesel as Groot: I imagine the interplay between him and RR will define his character, and I didn't see that much in the trailer, so I don't know what to say. Looks good though!
Bradley Cooper as Rocket: I like this little dude, and I've seen footage of him talking (kinda) in a 30 sec teaser which makes me think it'll work really well. I'm happy with him, and I like Bradley Cooper too (Hangover aside).
So, two happy's; two don't know's; one not bothered. It'll be down to direction, script and plotting to get this a thumbs up from me. But equally I have to say that it's not a thumbs down yet either. Could be middle of the road, but the Hooked on a Feeling riff is playing in my head and I think that's genius, so I'll err on the side of awesome at the moment :-)
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Iron Giant came out well after I was out of college and that scene still gets me misty-eyed.Right in the childhood... *sniff*Yup, which means it was Vin Diesel who
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I rated it 5-stars on Netflix, and in response they asked me "Do you often like Movies For 8-10 Year-Olds?"
I want to find the Netflix employee who classified The Iron Giant as a little kids' movie, and punch him in the face.
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Never seen Iron Giant.
Rectify that ASAP. It's beautiful in many ways.
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"movies made for little kids" are, IMO, some of the best movies all-around in many aspects.
On my top 20 of all movies ever, I'm sure 50% would be "movies made for little kids".
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Also there's this because ... well why not?
That puts Wrong Thoughts in my head. I never ship fictional characters, but now I want to cast Amy Poehler as Phyla-Vell/Leslie and Aubrey Plaza as Moondragon/April.
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Also there's this because ... well why not?That puts Wrong Thoughts in my head. I never ship fictional characters, but now I want to cast Amy Poehler as Phyla-Vell/Leslie and Aubrey Plaza as Moondragon/April.
And now I'm sad about them not being in the movie again.
Also there's this because ... well why not?That puts Wrong Thoughts in my head. I never ship fictional characters, but now I want to cast Amy Poehler as Phyla-Vell/Leslie and Aubrey Plaza as Moondragon/April.
aren't they already in a relationship? Who was phyla vell seeing on the team?
Awesome!
One of these years I really need to bump into Mikaze at Gencon and buy him a drink or three.
I need to go to gencon one of these years and join in!!!
aren't they already in a relationship? Who was phyla vell seeing on the team?Also there's this because ... well why not?That puts Wrong Thoughts in my head. I never ship fictional characters, but now I want to cast Amy Poehler as Phyla-Vell/Leslie and Aubrey Plaza as Moondragon/April.
Yeah, Phyla-Vell and Moondragon already were. Leslie and April from Parks and Rec weren't. Apologies for the confusion.
It now occurs to me that Ron Swanson would make a perfect Kree Supreme Intelligence.
Hmmm...interesting....
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Here are some new 'micro featurettes'
Ladies first, Gamora (who still reminds me a little of Oola from Return of the Jedi).
Next Drax the Destroyer
The very polarizing but I predict to soon to be fan favorite Rocket Raccoon.
Man the more I watch this the more I think it is going to be *the* superhero movie of 2014.
DC - "A Wonder Woman movie? How would that ever work? Too 'fringe' an audience."
Marvel - "We're putting millions behind goofy 90s joke characters like Rocket Raccoon, Starlord and Drax the Destroyer!!"
"Oh we also stuck an Ent in there because why not really?!"
Even my BiL a diehard DC fan said "Well that trailer was certainly good at its purpose - I now want to see GotG!!"
Man the more I watch this the more I think it is going to be *the* superhero movie of 2014.
DC - "A Wonder Woman movie? How would that ever work? Too 'fringe' an audience."
Marvel - "We're putting millions behind goofy 90s joke characters like Rocket Raccoon, Starlord and Drax the Destroyer!!"
"Oh we also stuck an Ent in there because why not really?!"
Even my BiL a diehard DC fan said "Well that trailer was certainly good at its purpose - I now want to see GotG!!"
It's very easy to bash DC for not being able to produce a WW movie when Marvel is doing stuff like this, but it doesn't really compare that well.
It is always easier to throw out some alien psychotropic mad-as-a-box-of-frogs weird-looking heroes and say (or let the audience assume) "It's ok, the film is in outer space - this is NORMAL out there".
It is much harder to work out how to place a human hero with real world mythology backing up her origin in a modern context and not look naff. And the problems with Wonder Woman don't end there.
Can you remember a female super hero movie recently which didn't bomb? Only allowing stars with proper superhero costume, not 'normal person with special powers' cop-out, as there's no way you could do that with Wonder Woman.
It's a hard trick to pull, and it gets harder when you consider trying to avoid misogynistic stereotyping, and yet appeal to the core comics-buying demographic...
Add in a generation of DC telling us that she is the "most famous heroine of all time", and that's a high pedestal to fall from.
After Catwoman I'm not surprised DC are thinking very carefully about this...
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I see absolutely no proof that the ausience is more ready to accept APMWLH than female heroes. Catwoman, as your example, did more misogynistic stereotyping than most 'male dominated' superheroe movies out there, I think, and looking at Catwoman or Elektra, I am pretty sure they didn't bomb because they had a female heroe...
(I do agree however, 'not being able to produce a WW movie' isn't something to bash DC when comparing their movie section to Marvel, it is missing the 'Wow!' mark more often then not - Batman triology aside (IMHO) and did like the last two Superman movies, I just didn't think they were half as good as most of the Marvel output.)
I like that she's now closer on par with Superman, power wise.
Responding to various bits here in no particular order.
On Wonder Woman: Never forget WB/DC HAD JOSS WHEDON on deck to write/direct a Wonder Woman film. They interfered with the writing process (like they do with most every writer they have) AND bought a script from another writer WHILE Whedon was writing it for them. He walked. They're doubtless sorry now.
On Lobo: WB/DC constantly learn the wrong lesson from Marvel's film & comic successes. So IF they choose to do that after GotG, I wouldn't have high expectations it will be a quality work.
On the idea that people should watch Iron Giant to see how great Vin will be as Groot: Groot is only one element. What most people are unfamiliar with is how great a choice JAMES GUNN is for this kind of movie... He's only done low budget work up to this point, but one example of that work that made me confident he was the right guy for this is a movie he directed (& starred in) called The Specials. His eclectic casting, his understanding of underdog superheroes and superhero iconography generally, and his subtle and bizarre humor are so appropriate for this film in so very many ways. Because of that film, the moment it was announced he was directing GotG, I was an instant believer. If you haven't seen it, do so. (But again, keep in mind it's more a comedy than an action film and incredibly low-budget compared to Guardians... but I stand by it as visionary.)
Well, if GotG does well, maybe it will convince WB to do a Lobo movie. I'd love to see the Ultimate Bastich on screen.
Considering how they re-imagined Lobo in the New52, I'd rather he stay off the big and small screens... at least until after he reverts in the NewerNew52 event.
He did Slither? Brill. I liked that too.
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Yeah, but Slither is a whole other genre... and that developed more out of Gunn's work and background with Troma.
The Specials really illustrates something more about his understanding of comics. I can't recommend it enough as a primer. :D
Responding to various bits here in no particular order.
On Wonder Woman: Never forget WB/DC HAD JOSS WHEDON on deck to write/direct a Wonder Woman film. They interfered with the writing process (like they do with most every writer they have) AND bought a script from another writer WHILE Whedon was writing it for them. He walked. They're doubtless sorry now.
Joss Whedon's script was rumored to be yet another 'teenage hero coming of age' thing that was very much like Buffy. Honestly, as much as I love SOME of Whedons stuff... I think he was a VERY bad fit for Wonder Woman. He is FANTASTIC for intergroup witty dialogue... but his 'Female butt-kickers' are pretty much the same everytime...
Besides, they already released the best possible wonder woman show yet. The Animated origin movie with Nathan Fillian as Steve Trevor. It had the perfect origin, update, and power levels while still keeping the fish out of water and epic mythology...
If they can't turn THAT into a live action... then why bother.
PRETTY much the same issue that they had with Green Lantern. They already DID First Flight, Telling how he got the ring and sinestro's origin... making a weaker live action one was just lame.
On Lobo: WB/DC constantly learn the wrong lesson from Marvel's film & comic successes. So IF they choose to do that after GotG, I wouldn't have high expectations it will be a quality work.
To be fair.... it's LOBO?!?! SHOULD it be 'quality'? He was hired by the easter bunny to kill santa and left the north pole covered in guts and explosions....
Lobo seems to work best as a cross between Slapstick parody.... and SAW.
Honestly, I wouldn't want to watch a Lobo movie regardless... but a 'quality' one is just missing the point.
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It's very easy to bash DC for not being able to produce a WW movie when Marvel is doing stuff like this, but it doesn't really compare that well.
OK. Compare it to Iron Man then if that helps. Iron Man was always part of an ensemble (the Avengers) to many and Marvel making a stand alone movie series of him was pretty ballsy, imo. Also for the longest time I would never have considered Iron Man to be an A-List Marvel superhero. sure he hung out with A-listers (Captain America, Thor, Incredible Hulk) but he always seemed second string to me. The Iron Man movies changed all of that (hell they even made the comic book version of Tony Stark look like Robert Downey!) and they had to work a human hero into the real world. The confusing, mixed up mess that is Wonder Woman's origin (Greek-Amazon-made from clay???) could have been cleaned up at last and given a big screen debut. Instead we get...nothing.
Except talking racoons with machine guns!
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Except talking racoons with machine guns!
I'm not seeing a downside to this.
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Joss Whedon's script was rumored to be yet another 'teenage hero coming of age' thing that was very much like Buffy. Honestly, as much as I love SOME of Whedons stuff... I think he was a VERY bad fit for Wonder Woman. He is FANTASTIC for intergroup witty dialogue... but his 'Female butt-kickers' are pretty much the same everytime...
Rumors are little more than that. During delays Whedon stated, "With Wonder Woman, you're writing from whole cloth, but trying to make it feel like you didn't. To make it feel like it's existed for 60 years, even though you're making it up as you go along. But who she, and what the movie, is about, thematically, has never been a problem for me. But the steps along the way, it could be so easy for them to feel wrong. I won't settle."
Given what we saw him do with Buffy and Avengers, I think it's a safer bet to say he'd have done it more justice than the TV show that failed to launch. And had he been given the time to get it right and if WB/DC had not mucked about the writing process... maybe we would have seen Justice League before Avengers. (I'm fine with the way it worked out though, even if disappointed that DC can't get anything but Arrow right these days.)PRETTY much the same issue that they had with Green Lantern. They already DID First Flight, Telling how he got the ring and sinestro's origin... making a weaker live action one was just lame.
You'll get no argument from me on that point.
To be fair.... it's LOBO?!?! SHOULD it be 'quality'? He was hired by the easter bunny to kill santa and left the north pole covered in guts and explosions....
Lobo seems to work best as a cross between Slapstick parody.... and SAW.
Honestly, I wouldn't want to watch a Lobo movie regardless... but a 'quality' one is just missing the point.
I think you mistake "quality" to mean something else. In the case of Lobo, "quality" wouldn't equal "cerebral Oscar-worthy achievement." But it would require a creative adaptation that's faithful to the core material and a story that entertains, even if it's "slapstick gore."
In other words... it would have to be great!Otherwise it'd be just another b-list action hero film, or worse, worthy of a slot on MST3K. Sad to say, I have come to expect "worse" from DC more often than not lately. (Again, Arrow is the singular exception, which I can't applaud enough.)
The line in the trailer about Drax's wife and daughter being killed could be part of the reason a certain member of the team isn't in this movie. Bautista has said Drax's story might surprise a lot of people. If he still has something close to his original comics origin, it could make excellent fodder for a sequel and a great way to introduce... ** spoiler omitted **
I just wish the character would go back to dressing in his Purple cape and tights! heh heh
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Wonder Woman isn't really that hard to get right. The basics of her origin story are not anymore complicated than Thor's. Warner Brothers just is very very paranoid about doing any movies that doesn't involve Batman or Superman, and The Dark Knight aside, has has very poor luck with good scripts
Ya know...I am pretty sure guys will go and see female superheroes...I don't see that as being too huge an issue. The fact that Catwoman and Electra bombed has more to do with a crappy script and poor acting than anything else.
Wonder Woman isn't really that hard to get right. The basics of her origin story are not anymore complicated than Thor's. Warner Brothers just is very very paranoid about doing any movies that doesn't involve Batman or Superman, and The Dark Knight aside, has has very poor luck with good scripts
Ya know...I am pretty sure guys will go and see female superheroes...I don't see that as being too huge an issue. The fact that Catwoman and Electra bombed has more to do with a crappy script and poor acting than anything else.
Hell yes guys will go to a WW movie. They won't go to utter crap like Catwoman and Electra but then most people don't like awful movies.
It is interesting to me that the only real super-heroine movies we've really gotten have been about 2 borderline villain characters. There was Supergirl back in the 80s but the less said about that the better, imo.
Looking over the wikipedia entry as far as American superhero movies go those three are pretty much it. There was Tank Girl in '94 but she barely counts as 'super'. So yeah 3 attempts two of which grossed over $50 million each and those were 10 years ago (and released in the same year).
I think Warner/DC is honestly full of s+%& if they ever say there is no market for female superhero movies - there is a vast, untried and untested market out there to be taken!
Well, if GotG does well, maybe it will convince WB to do a Lobo movie. I'd love to see the Ultimate Bastich on screen.Considering how they re-imagined Lobo in the New52, I'd rather he stay off the big and small screens... at least until after he reverts in the NewerNew52 event.
I have nothing against new lobo. Many disagree with me, but the 90's pro wrestler approach had to go.
Responding to various bits here in no particular order.
On Wonder Woman: Never forget WB/DC HAD JOSS WHEDON on deck to write/direct a Wonder Woman film. They interfered with the writing process (like they do with most every writer they have) AND bought a script from another writer WHILE Whedon was writing it for them. He walked. They're doubtless sorry now.
I know I'm not.
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I have nothing against new lobo. Many disagree with me, but the 90's pro wrestler approach had to go.Well, if GotG does well, maybe it will convince WB to do a Lobo movie. I'd love to see the Ultimate Bastich on screen.Considering how they re-imagined Lobo in the New52, I'd rather he stay off the big and small screens... at least until after he reverts in the NewerNew52 event.
What I REALLY want is a faithful reproduction of the Lobo vs Mask two part miniseries. That's not EVER going to happen though.
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I know I'm not.Responding to various bits here in no particular order.
On Wonder Woman: Never forget WB/DC HAD JOSS WHEDON on deck to write/direct a Wonder Woman film. They interfered with the writing process (like they do with most every writer they have) AND bought a script from another writer WHILE Whedon was writing it for them. He walked. They're doubtless sorry now.
We all now you have an irrational hatred for everything whedon...so...
Well I never really read any Guardian of the Galaxy comics. The first I ever heard of Rocket Racoon was in Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
I still think this movie looks pretty awesome from the trailer.
Yeah, but Slither is a whole other genre... and that developed more out of Gunn's work and background with Troma.
The Specials really illustrates something more about his understanding of comics. I can't recommend it enough as a primer. :D
Just realised that he did Super as well. That was one messed up film. Felt weird after seeing it. Had to bin the DVD. Hope GotG is NOTHING like that film. At all.
Hard to explain how I feel about that film...
The '80s Rocket Raccoon miniseries is old favorite of mine. I read some of the original Guardians of the Galaxy stories, but nothing of the current team.
I suspect it's a very different take on Rocket Raccoon, which has me wary. I'm too likely to be disappointed.
new rocket raccoon has been around for a while now. While I dont care for the VERY latest incarnation (picture furry punisher/wolverine clone), I really liked him in the overall guardians reboot.
Sounds like some kind of cameo by Nathan Fillion will be in the movie.
Probably too much to hope that it's a Mal Reynolds appearance (even if not named). Not sure that would fly with Fox.
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Now I cant watch it....
Now I cant watch it....
Oh you can just go find the Anti-Whedon Theater.
For what it's worth, Nathan Fillion is also pretty good buds with the director, not just buds with Whedon (Fillion had previously been in Slither and Super).