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Aranna wrote:

Oh it had good moments... it just wasn't ALL good.

** spoiler omitted **

The series also has yet to explain where the Inquisitors fit into the universe and dark side. There are always two Sith a master and an apprentice. They aren't Sith but clearly dark side trained... they did something similar in Clone Wars with Asajj Ventress and Savage Opress. What is the difference here?

I believe the comics explein it better basically amoung there other jobs (Hunting down surviving Jedi and force sensetive individuals) each inquisitor is a potential replacment for Vader (Since the entire crippling/cyborg thing was not part of the emeperors plan for him), Also remember palpatine has a long history of only kinda vaguly following the rule of two.

The rule of two, in the movies at least, comes from Yoda, he of the 'he is too young to begin the training / he is too old to begin the training' logic, and was presented in the same movie in which we learned that Palpatine, Dooku *and* Maul were all active at the same time (that's not two, but three, for those math-challenged little green dudes out there).

Short, short version? Yoda's full of crap, when it comes to the Sith and their rules.

Or possibly his little frog-race are like gully dwarves, and any number bigger than one is 'two.'

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This new season looks to be epic!


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Rakshaka wrote:
New trailer for Season 3. So excited for Thrawn!

Excited Freehold is excited.


Aranna wrote:

Hey is this the point where the Rebels get their Y wings? It looked like it. And the Black Mandalorian lightsaber from the Clone Wars is back too!

~Squeeee!!!~

Aranna, the things you say.... fans self


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I just showed the season 3 trailer to my daughter. She's pumped that Sabine can fly. (She's 5 so that's a BIG deal to her.)

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Aranna wrote:

I don't know much about Thrawn... But he sure is scary.

I can't wait.

Go and rectify that. Read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zann.


Hama wrote:
Aranna wrote:

I don't know much about Thrawn... But he sure is scary.

I can't wait.
Go and rectify that. Read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn.

Seconded. If you read nothing else from the expanded universe at all, read those three. (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command) Not only is it the series that introduced Thrawn, it also gave the readers Mara Jade.


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Zahn is writing a new Thrawn book to tie in with Thrawn's appearance on Rebels. Should be awesome....

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Grey Lensman wrote:
Hama wrote:
Aranna wrote:

I don't know much about Thrawn... But he sure is scary.

I can't wait.
Go and rectify that. Read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn.
Seconded. If you read nothing else from the expanded universe at all, read those three. (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command) Not only is it the series that introduced Thrawn, it also gave the readers Mara Jade.

And all three are pretty decent pieces of literature with moments of brilliance.


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Ok I get the hint. I will add them to my reading list.

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Ragadolf wrote:
Sorry, I liked the Expanded Universe. I can't believe that they kept something from it! :)

While the late, great, Grand Admiral Mitth'raw'nuruodo* is the poster boy for later EU, Star Wars Rebels has made a lot of very early circa 1980's Expanded Universe Canon again.

The Inquisitorius and the Imperial Security Bureau (via Agent Kallus), even Kenner Toy's troop transport, to name but a few.

*Out of respect for the deceased I call him by his given Chiss name.

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Yeah, they've brought a lot of stuff from the original Marvel series and the Star Wars RPG (no, the real one, not WoTCs mess). Mostly via the novels and, to a degree, Rebels.

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Krensky wrote:
Were those Dark Troopers?

They most certainly are!

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Aranna wrote:

Ok I get the hint. I will add them to my reading list.

Well worth the time!

Set wrote:

Short, short version? Yoda's full of crap, when it comes to the Sith and their rules.

Or possibly his little frog-race are like gully dwarves, and any number bigger than one is 'two.'

Set I see your tenure at the Imperial High Ministry of Extra Planar Propaganda, Exploitation and Re Education was well worth its time.

Thank you, come again.


I had to get rid of my cable, so I probably won't be able to keep up with the new season. *Sad DMCal is sad*

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Amazon should have it shortly after airing, I'm fairly sure they did last season, anyway.

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And there are copius websites that stream things outside of the normal.... Ahem... Heirarchy. Just have a solid ad blocker enabled.


Krensky wrote:
Amazon should have it shortly after airing, I'm fairly sure they did last season, anyway.

Thanks!


archmagi1 wrote:
And there are copius websites that stream things outside of the normal.... Ahem... Heirarchy. Just have a solid ad blocker enabled.

Hmmm...*strokes beard pensively*

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Meet Bendu, I already love this guy.

The name "Bendu" comes from George Lucas's original name for The Jedi Knights: the Jedi Bendu. There are several instances in Star Wars history wherein the Bendu symbol is used.

Much akin to how Nazi Germany formally adopted the swastika as their symbol in 1920, Emperor Palpatine's Empire used the Bendu symbol to inspire The Imperial Crest.


Awesome.

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Show starts back up on Sat folks. :)


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Belabras wrote:
Show starts back up on Sat folks. :)

rearranges life schedule

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Have I ever mentioned the growing theory in my brain that Ezra is the future Lord Snoke?

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I'm not *yet* sold on the Ezra = Snoke theory, as much as I am the Ezra + Sabine = Rei's Parents fanboy wish. If they both turn out to be true, its overly excessively star warsy (everybody is everybody's kin), though my whole E+S=R isn't too far gone from it either. Though its more likely that Ezra is the founder of the Knights of Ren, but most likely he dies in a season or 2 as Story Group caves to grognards and wipes out the other force adepts who aren't jedi or sith.

I just want to know whose voice is coming from the sith holocron. Is it Kreia? Is it (i hope not) Asajj Ventress? Is it new character #999? The former, particularly with KOTOR2, is related to Malachor (V in the games), and has soooo much more reason to know actual forcy things beyond Ventresses' sith lite training or her force witch cabal from Clone Wars. Having the sith holocron be from someone who pretty well abandoned the whole Sith/Jedi dichotomy in the long long ago, someone who wholeheartedly embraced the entirety of the force, light and dark together, seems like a much more powerful place to take Ezra than the generic fall to the dark we've already seen through Anakin.

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My question, is Ashoka dead, I kind of don't know?


Ok, since I don't have cable anymore (and won't be getting it again in the foreseeable future) I have a question. Does the Disney XD website show the new episodes on a delayed schedule, like a week after it airs originally or something? Because that's the only way I'll get to watch it now.


NenkotaMoon wrote:
My question, is Ashoka dead, I kind of don't know?

Her fate is undecided. BUT since the fans want more of her it is likely she survived.

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archmagi1 wrote:
I'm not *yet* sold on the Ezra = Snoke theory, as much as I am the Ezra + Sabine = Rei's Parents fanboy wish.

I'm not sure why or when I started to think of Ezra as Snoke. It's probably not true, but you never know. Disney has already started bringing characters from their animated series into the movies.....

archmagi1 wrote:
I just want to know whose voice is coming from the sith holocron. Is it Kreia? Is it (i hope not) Asajj Ventress? Is it new character #999? The former, particularly with KOTOR2, is related to Malachor (V in the games), and has soooo much more reason to know actual forcy things beyond Ventresses' sith lite training or her force witch cabal from Clone Wars. Having the sith holocron be from someone who pretty well abandoned the whole Sith/Jedi dichotomy in the long long ago, someone who wholeheartedly embraced the entirety of the force, light and dark together, seems like a much more powerful place to take Ezra than the generic fall to the dark we've already seen through Anakin.

That would be f#@$ing awesome if they made the voice Kreia's. She was one crazy evil b&@**.


I loooooooooved Kreia.

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Clip from the hour long season premier.


I really enjoy this series. The last fight between Vader and the Apprentice of Anakin Skywalker was epic!

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That was kind of funny.

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Enter The Grand Admiral.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Enter The Grand Admiral.

I soooooo want to get you that outfit.

What size are you?

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Freehold DM wrote:
What size are you?

IMPERIAL standard

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Heir to the Empire came out in June 1991. If I recall correctly I was sporting a Grand Admiral costume by San Diego Comic Con 1992.

This uniform differs from the novel though, and I have put on weight since those years.


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I think that there is a novel coming out in October that talks about what Ashoka is doing inbetween her time leaving the Order and the Rebels show.

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Aberzombie wrote:

I'm not *yet* sold on the Ezra = Snoke theory, as much as I am the Ezra + Sabine = Rei's Parents fanboy wish.

I'm not sure why or when I started to think of Ezra as Snoke. It's probably not true, but you never know. Disney has already started bringing characters from their animated series into the movies.....

While it's true that they have begun occasionally adding smaller characters from a book, or Rebels or whatever, I can all be guarantee they would never do something like make Ezra and Sabine (characters from Rebels I assume) Rey's parents. There's simply too big of a downside to that and not nearly enough upside.

It's important to remember that, although there are clearly fans of the "side" (for lack of a better term) official media (books, animated stuff), those fans are only a small percentage of the much wider Star Wars fan base. Doing something like intertwining a main character from the movies with a character form a book or animated show would certainly make some people within that small sub-set of Star Wars fans happy perhaps, but it would also most certainly confuse and alienate a HUGE number of fans that only watch the movies.

More than just fans even - think about all the millions of people who aren't really even Star Wars fans but just go to the movies for fun. Important reveals and connections like that really need to come from the story the movies alone are telling.

For the record, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but I'm not interested in (nor have seen or read) any of these books or animated shows. As a huge fan, I think I would be pretty ticked off if they did something like revealing a major plot point but it meant nothing to me because I don't read the books or watch an animated show.

Just my opinion of course!


Marc Radle wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

I'm not *yet* sold on the Ezra = Snoke theory, as much as I am the Ezra + Sabine = Rei's Parents fanboy wish.

I'm not sure why or when I started to think of Ezra as Snoke. It's probably not true, but you never know. Disney has already started bringing characters from their animated series into the movies.....

While it's true that they have begun occasionally adding smaller characters from a book, or Rebels or whatever, I can all be guarantee they would never do something like make Ezra and Sabine (characters from Rebels I assume) Rey's parents. There's simply too big of a downside to that and not nearly enough upside.

It's important to remember that, although there are clearly fans of the "side" (for lack of a better term) official media (books, animated stuff), those fans are a pretty small percentage of the wider Star Wars fan base. Doing something like intertwining a main character from the movies with a character form a book or animated show would certainly make some people in that small sub-set of Star Wars fans happy perhaps, but it would also most likely confuse and alienate a huge number of fans that only see the movies.

More than just fans even, think about all the millions of people who aren't really even Star Wars fans but just go to the movies for fun. Important reveals and connections like that really need to come from the story the movies alone are telling.

For the record, I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but I'm not interested in (nor have seen or read) any of these books or animated shows. As a huge fan, I think I would be pretty ticked off if they did something like that.

Just my opinion of course!

They might be able to pull it off, but it would have to basically be an Easter Egg. Rey's parents turn out to not be important to the actual plot of the new trilogy, but fans of Rebels will recognize them as these characters.

I doubt that's the plan though. Rey's parentage has been set up as a significant mystery, which means they're likely planning some important revelation for it.


Perhaps she too is a convergence of the Force?

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Funny story...

I'm at Origins on Sunday, a little punchy and I see Tim Zahn is there. I'm mad that a) I don't have my Thrawn Trillogy books and b) I'm too broke to buy anything, but I wander over and tell him thanks for the Thrawn trilogy and all the work that's now non-cannon.

He politely points out that the movie timeline doesn't cover the time of the trilogy, so we never know...

I laughed when I read the news about Thrawn.

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I really hope Ventress shows up this season. We never got much of a resolve for her story after Count Dooku dumped her as an apprentice in Clone Wars.


Ventress appeared in one of the video games, playing a major role. She apparently quit all things force related after appearing in a couple of boss fights(she was *really* given the shaft even when she tried to go straight). I think her last line was something about being done with it all.


Ventress is one of the lead characters in the new canon book Dark Disciple. It is based off of unproduced Clone Wars episodes for season 6. It wraps up her story, so it is unlikely we will see her in Rebels.

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littlediegito wrote:
Ventress is one of the lead characters in the new canon book Dark Disciple. It is based off of unproduced Clone Wars episodes for season 6. It wraps up her story, so it is unlikely we will see her in Rebels.

Ok, been awhile since I read a Star Wars book. I'll give it a look.


littlediegito wrote:
Ventress is one of the lead characters in the new canon book Dark Disciple. It is based off of unproduced Clone Wars episodes for season 6. It wraps up her story, so it is unlikely we will see her in Rebels.

that was...not very good.


It is canon though, so if anyone wants closure on her story it is the place to go.


littlediegito wrote:
It is canon though, so if anyone wants closure on her story it is the place to go.

Meh. I could easily see this being undone.


Freehold DM wrote:
littlediegito wrote:
Ventress is one of the lead characters in the new canon book Dark Disciple. It is based off of unproduced Clone Wars episodes for season 6. It wraps up her story, so it is unlikely we will see her in Rebels.
that was...not very good.

Definitely not Lost Stars level of good. (Admittedly, Lost Stars kicks every other Star Wars book's behind, so that's a bit of a high bar. And this is someone who usually bounces off YA books hard saying that.)

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