DESCRIPTION
Laying a hand upon an allied creature's jaw, claws, tentacles, or other natural weapons, you enhance the power of that creature's natural attacks. Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually is. If the creature is already Gargantuan or Colossal-sized, double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead. This spell does not actually change the creature's size; all of its statistics except the amount of damage dealt by its natural attacks remain unchanged.
I take it the enhancement is on the touched natural weapon ONLY and it doesn't effect each natural attack is implied in the test?
"Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage..."
"... double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead"
Implied? It seems quite explicit for me.
Touching one of the natural attacks is a gesture part of the spell but does not mean that it limits its effect to touched part.
"Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage..."
"... double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead"
Implied? It seems quite explicit for me.
Touching one of the natural attacks is a gesture part of the spell but does not mean that it limits its effect to touched part.
Hmm...
One happy wild-shaping STR based Druid.One unhappy GM...
Wildshaping druid needs some love to be competitive with raging barbarians, lance-wielding cavaliers, smiting paladins and weapon-focused fighters anyway.
A friend asked me to rebuild his Druid...it was rubbish.
Now its kinda shifted the other way. He's in for a shock!!
I swear I saw a FAQ on this before... but I think it only effects whatever natural attack is selected. I'm digging now to try and find that FAQ
There's no FAQ on the D20pfsrd hence my asking.
The "touch a jaw, claw, tentacle" bit implies only that attack but then it goes on and says "each natural attack".I have no vested interest in this so it really doesn't worry me.
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I swear I saw a FAQ on this before... but I think it only effects whatever natural attack is selected. I'm digging now to try and find that FAQThere's no FAQ on the D20pfsrd hence my asking.
The "touch a jaw, claw, tentacle" bit implies only that attack but then it goes on and says "each natural attack".I have no vested interest in this so it really doesn't worry me.
Perhaps not a FAQ on how it works, but a developer's comment.... which would take forever to find.
It can be perceived multiple ways, hence my searching. >_>
It can be perceived multiple ways, hence my searching. >_>
LOL.
I did a search and checked the FAQ before posting however my search-fu is weak.
I'll leave it up to the GM how he wants to rule it unless someone can point a yes/no official response.
Thanks for looking!
I think it's pretty clear.
Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually is
Why would it say each if they meant only one?
Strong Jaw + Vital Strike + Behemoth Hippopotamus = Hungry Hungry Hippo!
Now if you get Spring Attack in there as well I'd be impressed.
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You can't Spring Attack / Vital Strike, sadly =(.
I'm sure SKR or JJ said its totally legal even for PFS play if the hippo is wearing a Pink Tu-Tu of Striding and Springing...or was that a cheese dream...
I think it's pretty clear.
Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually isWhy would it say each if they meant only one?
"Each" could mean multiple natural attacks of a specific type that was touched when the spell was cast. Not all natural attacks regardless of type.
Meaning if the character has 2 claws and two tentacles, you could virtually enlarge one set of claws or both tenacles, not all natural attacks.
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"Each" could mean multiple natural attacks of a specific type that was touched when the spell was cast. Not all natural attacks regardless of type.
Meaning if the character has 2 claws and two tentacles, you could virtually enlarge one set of claws or both tenacles, not all natural attacks.
That is the ruling I remember it coming down to... but I just don't recall if it was a Dev that stated this, where the cite is even at, or if this was just a general consensus after a 500+ post thread.
@_@
Well, my GM wouldn't let me stack Improved Natural Attack with Strong Jaw. That was annoying.
Anyway, I find a grapple focused Dire Tiger better anyway. You get 5 attacks with a charge at level 8 (as you get RAKE at level 8 druid, not at level 6), all at +2 to attack, with 3 attempts to grab and grapple the foe.
Personally, I find that works out better and you don't have to worry about the huge size issue in a dungeon.
Well I'm not the GM and this is a build I was knocking up for a friend so I'll just point them here and sit back!
However the Strong Jaw + Vital Strike + Behemoth Hippopotamus with +5 adamantine vorpal dentures wearing the pink tu-tu of striding and springing is staying...with a fiendish template.
Thanks for the input people