Started after I read the commoner one but need a lich so looking to see who can make best lich any class/race prelich combo works,
Can be any spellcasting class so rangers paladins clerics summoners alchemist any
Lvl 20 builds preferred
25 point buy for stats
Standard npc gold for lvl 20
2 traits
Does the 120,000 gp for the phylactery come out of my NPC wealth?
Not sure how much npc wealth is so no imma say no
Edit: I don't know which one is higher npc wealth or pc wealth.
These should be made with the higher...
And either way no cost should be deducted for the phylactery
Not sure how much npc wealth is so no imma say no
Edit: I don't know which one is higher npc wealth or pc wealth.
These should be made with the higher...
And either way no cost should be deducted for the phylacteryHaven't looked to confirm but I'm 99.99% sure PC wealth is considerably higher at any given level.
And here's those numbers, so yes PC WBL is considerably higher
20th level PC 880,000gp
20th level NPC Basic Level 123,000gp (so yeah almost have to NOT count the phylactery or they have 3000gp left)
20th level NPC Heroic Level 159,000gp
So either pc lvl or about halfway between so about 500k?
Does wbl account for alot of build?
Would players be able to beat a lich with pc wbl
PC WBL adds +1 to the challenge rating of the encounter.
That will work they should still be able to handle it alright yall let the lich builds commence!
PCs can beat a Lich with PC WBL, and if you decide to take the cost of the phylactery into account then it becomes paramount to have PC wealth.
Overall, a Lich has to be able to guard its phylactery, and operate fairly well in combat.
The favored class normally for a Lich would be some sort of spellcasting class, given the necessary requirements to become one, but that is not the only way.
I can think of things like Antipaladin, Monk, or any other class that relies heavily on one of those mental scores. As well, giving a Lich some form of melee can create quite the surprise for a party.
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This was a 25 point build, 500,000 Gold wealth, two traits, level 20 master summoner. I think everything is correct but some numbers may be off. Please let me know if they are. Any of the shortened terms I use are hopefully easy to understand (LLV low light vision)
(Warning large spoiler)
Gelgizit The Gateway CE HD: 20D8+FC 11+280 (383) Speed: 30
Class: Master Summoner Race: Drow Lich Senses: Dark Vision 60, LLV
Initiative: 14 AC: 38 (10+4 DEX +5 NA +9 Armor +5 Deflection +5 Bark skin)
STR: 7 (-2) TOUCH: 10 FF: 10
CON: 0 (0) FORT: 25
DEX: 18 (4) REF: 15 (Evasion)
INT: 12 (1) WILL: 17
WIS: 10 (0) BAB: 15
CHA: 38 (14) CMB: 19 CMD: 27
ATTACK: (Touch) +19 (1D8+10)
SPECIAL: VS Touch, Paralyze DC: 36
• Feats: 10 +1 Bonus
o Augmented Summoning, Improved Initiative, Spell Focus Arcana, Eldritch Heritage Arcane (Scorpion), Superior Summoning, Weapon Finesse, Ability Focus (Paralyze Touch), Flyby Attack, Demonic Obedience (Mazmezz), Extra Evolution, Extra Summons
• GEAR:
o +6 charisma Headband, +5 tome of charisma, Book of Extended Summoning Greater (Evil), +5 Chain Shirt (Glammered), Ring of Protection +5, Cloak of resistance +5, Ring of Evasion, Rod of Quicken (Normal), Robe of the Gates, Rod of Empower (Normal), 27,250 Gold extra (This can be used for anything else but generally for a last resort Gate spell)
• RACIAL
o FC: HP 11, Reduce eidolon to 1 Round
o Surface Drow (LLV), Blasphemous Covens, SR: 26, Elf Immunities, SLA: Dancing Lights, Darkness, Faerie fire 1/Day
o TRAITS: Diabolical Dabbler, Reactionary
o LICH (Undead)
• DV: 60, +5 NA, Channel Resist: +4, DR: 15/Bludgeoning and Magic, Rejuvenate, Touch: 1D8+10 (Paralyze DC: 36), Fear Aura: 60 FT: DC: 34 or frightened if 5 HD or less, Shaken if +5 HD 20 rounds, +8 Perception, sense motive, and stealth. Climb, Disguise, fly, intimidate, arcana, religion, perception, sense motive, spellcraft, and stealth class skills, and Phylactery
• CLASS
o Cantrips, Spells, Eidolon (Lesser), Summoning Mastery Summon Monster IX or Gate 20/Day, Augmented Summoning, Makers Call, Transposition, Aspect, Greater Shield Ally, Life Bond, Merge Forms, Greater Aspect, Twin Eidolon
• Obedience: Mazmezz
o Web 2/Day
o Poison and Vermin Shape 1/Day
o Temporal Stasis 1/day (Wrapped in webs, can have no more than three at a time) DC: 10+9+14 (33)
Spells: CL: 20, Concentration +38, DC: 24+Spell Level
0) 6 Known: At Will: Acid Splash, Arcane Mark, Mending, Mage hand, Detect Magic, Read Magic
1) 6 Known: 9/Day: Ant Haul, Grease, Enlarge Person, Alarm, Feather Fall, Unseen servant
2) 6 Known: 9/Day: Alter Self, Haste, Slow, Barkskin, Blur, Glitter Dust
3) 6 Known: 8/Day: Non Detection, Black Tentacles, Dimensional Door, Control Summoned Monster, Mad Monkeys, Charm Monster,
4) 6 Known: 8/Day: Baleful Polymorph, Overland Flight, Magic Jar, Wall of Stone, Transmogrify, Greater Evolution Surge
5) 5 Known: 7/Day: Banishment, Ethereal Jaunt, Plane Shift, Spell Turning, Greater Teleport,
6) 5 Known: 7/Day: Mass Charm Monster, Incendiary Cloud, Greater Planar Binding, Teleportation Circle, Discern Location
SKILLS: 3/LVL (60)
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- Fly 8 (+14 if overland Flight)
- Knowledge (Planes) 12
- Knowledge (Arcana) 24
- Knowledge (Religion) 24
- Perception 31 (alertness)
- Spellcraft 18
- Stealth 12
- Use Magic Device 19
Eidolon: Rezzik CE HD: 8D10+32 (76) Speed: 40 (Fly 140)
Race: Outsider Senses: Dark Vision 60, LLV
Initiative: 3 AC: 24 (10+4 DEX +10 NA)
STR: 26 (8) TOUCH: 14 FF: 20
CON: 18 (4) FORT: 10
DEX: 16 (3) REF: 9
INT: 8 (-1) WILL: 2 (+4 Devotion)
WIS: 10 (0) BAB: 8
CHA: 11 (0) CMB: 17 CMD: 30
ATTACK: (Bite and Claws) +15/15/15 (3D6+8/1D6+8/1D6+8)
FEATS: Flyby, Stealthy, Night Stalker, Improved Natural Attack
EVOLUTION POOL: 15 points
• Quadruped: Bite, Limbs X2, Flight 2 (+5), Large 4, Claws 1, Skilled: Perception 1, Pounce 1, Skilled: Stealth 1, Improved Damage Bite 1
Skills: 5/LVL (40)
• Perception 19
• Stealth 25
• Acrobatics 14
• Fly 14
• UMD 11
Familiar CE HD: 20HD (191) Speed: 30
Class: Master Summoner Race: Drow Lich Senses: Dark Vision 60, LLV
Initiative: 3 AC: 28 (10 +4 DEX +12 NA +2 Size)
STR: 3 (-3) TOUCH: 10 FF: 10
CON: 10 (0) FORT: 6
DEX: 16 (3) REF: 14 Improved Evasion
INT: 14 (2) WILL: 12
WIS: 10 (0) BAB: 15
CHA: 2 (-4) CMB: 19 CMD: 27
Sting: +20 (1D4-4) Poison DC: 20 Sickened 1 Round
Feats: Weapon Finesse
SQ: Alertness, Improved Evasion, Share Spells, Empathic Link, Deliver Touch Spells, Speak with master, speak with animals of kind, SR: 25, Scry on familiar
Skills: As master
Gelgizit was once a powerful summoner to the drow, though as his time grew long and his body frail he feared death. A few meeting with some demons later he knew he had to extend his life indefinitely though Lichdom. This was easy for him with his already arcane body and connections with outer realms he tore his soul out and placed it in the dagger he took his own life with. This dagger is now kept in a lead box covered in moon rock rock on the moon. This was placed there through a scroll of interplanetary teleport and he keeps three more scrolls near it.
Now that his life is never ending and his soul kept safe he spends his time pulling creatures from other realms out to do his bidding, he attacks towns by summoning the Daughters of Urgathoa generally (1D4+2 per summon.) His unbeatable force of personality has fueled his necrotic body and lets him wade into battle without fear to strike a foe with his horrid touch.
Just thought of something: Liches need Craft Wondrous Item to make their phylactery, so they can get all Wondrous Items at half price (just the construction cost).
I might try to make a magus lich. Spell Combat with paralyzing touch for the win?
Bard Lich diplomancer who sends wave upon wave of minions after the party.
Just thought of something: Liches need Craft Wondrous Item to make their phylactery, so they can get all Wondrous Items at half price (just the construction cost).
I might try to make a magus lich. Spell Combat with paralyzing touch for the win?
Haven't seen one I think it be cool
Bard Lich diplomancer who sends wave upon wave of minions after the party.
I would love to see one having recently started playing bards :)
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Just thought of something: Liches need Craft Wondrous Item to make their phylactery, so they can get all Wondrous Items at half price (just the construction cost).
I completely forgot about that. I guess Gelgizit would trade out extra summons or extra evolution to pick it up, and now he has a lot more money (rough guess would be he has about +50,000 more gear because a tome does not have a price reduction by much as each one still costs a wish per bonus) This would probably go to a few scrolls, maybe an Energy drain scroll as you cannot go wrong with one of them.
Just thought of something: Liches need Craft Wondrous Item to make their phylactery, so they can get all Wondrous Items at half price (just the construction cost).I completely forgot about that. I guess Gelgizit would trade out extra summons or extra evolution to pick it up, and now he has a lot more money (rough guess would be he has about +50,000 more gear because a tome does not have a price reduction by much as each one still costs a wish per bonus) This would probably go to a few scrolls, maybe an Energy drain scroll as you cannot go wrong with one of them.
I like the char but where did lich familiar come from? I'm a little confuzzled
Anyone built a commoner lich yet? ;)
I'm Curious How a Mystic Theurge Would Work As a Lich? Perhaps One Built On a Sorcerer/Oracle Chassis?
Following this thread with interest, I regret that I'm not up to the challenge of making a full stat block.
Note that unless I'm reading the requirements incorrectly, you can have a lich that is also a Worm that Walks.
Creatures from PFSRD that make interesting liches and have natural spellcasting: Aranea, Couatl, Drider, Lamia Matriarch, Naga (Dark or Spirit), Neh-Thalggu, Rakshasa.
Mi-Go don't have natural spellcasting, but they could create phylacteries through their Item Creation (ex).
Anyone built a commoner lich yet? ;)
10str 14dex 14con 10int 10wis 18cha
(favored class bonus to health)
Skills(2+int+1race=3): Craft(alchemy),Perception,UMD
1|Additional talents(dangerously curious, Eyes and Ears of the City), Skill focus(UMD)
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3|Magical Aptitude
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5|Master Craftsman(alchemy)
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7|Craft Wondrous item
8|Skill focus(alchemy)
9|Master Alchemist
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11|Craft Arms and Armor
12|
13|Craft Construct
14|
15|Armor Proficiency, Light
16|Skill focus(perception)
17|Armor Proficiency, Medium
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19|Armor Proficiency, Heavy
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Strategy: Use craft alchemy to raise money and to make acid. Once you have enough resources go adventuring!
Use your share of the loot to buy more alchemical weapons until about level 4-5. Work in using wands with UMD once you can. By lvl 3 you have a +13 bonus or 70% chance to activate a wands. At mid levels you use magic crafting to outfit yourself and party with cheap magic items.
At 13 you retire from adventuring and use your alchemy to make more money while you craft your phylactery and turn into a lich. (be sure you can make the phylactery before dying of old age, also make a hat of disguise beforehand)
Now with your unlimited time make a golem army. (Note: once per decade go adventuring pretending to be a "bad touch" cleric to prevent the on set of demilichdom).
Now with your golem army concur the world!
By level 20 you can wear fullplate and pretend to be Sauron without the ring weakness.
Rules wise, you have to assume becoming a lich involves only using craft wondrous item to make a phylactery.
Anyone built a commoner lich yet? ;)** spoiler omitted **
Rules wise, you have to assume becoming a lich involves only using craft wondrous item to make a phylactery.
(This assumption is necessary because the template specifies that you "must be able to cast spells.")
Anyone built a commoner lich yet? ;)** spoiler omitted **
Rules wise, you have to assume becoming a lich involves only using craft wondrous item to make a phylactery.
(This assumption is necessary because the template specifies that you "must be able to cast spells.")
It's a magic item, so per crafting rules the DC just goes up a little bit for not meeting them.
Also in a recent PF book where they go into more detail about the undead, I believe they touch on divine liches and even one lich who was just a fighter.
Anyone built a commoner lich yet? ;)** spoiler omitted **
Rules wise, you have to assume becoming a lich involves only using craft wondrous item to make a phylactery.
(This assumption is necessary because the template specifies that you "must be able to cast spells.")
It's a magic item, so per crafting rules the DC just goes up a little bit for not meeting them.
Also in a recent PF book where they go into more detail about the undead, I believe they touch on divine liches and even one lich who was just a fighter.
Oh I think I get you, you are using Master Craftsman to make the phylactery and raising the DC to eliminate the requirement "able to cast spells"?
Yep!
Of course this is all a rules assumption. It's not like most GMs would just let their PCs craft a phylactery and turn into liches. The template merely specifies that making a phylactery is part of becoming a lich. The other parts are left to GM discretion.
And for that theurge, I could probably make one.
Oh, Yes Please! I Do Love Liches As BBEGs!
I was thinking about the Master Craftsman feat, since you get a caster level (for item creation) from it.
I absolutely love the idea, because it opens the creation up to pretty much any class; as proven by the Commoner Lich above.
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This is the Mythic Theurge I have made as a lich now. He is never without his infernal companion Juxuz who depending on the version may be a Lich himself. Karthu is always under an Alter self spell or otherwise disguised. He enjoys bringing political systems to their knees with his silver tongue and vast knowledge of the world.
I enjoy making these so if there are any other suggestions just post them.
Karthu The All Knowing LE HD: 16D6+4D8+280 (357) Speed: 30
Class: Sorc 4/Oracle 4/MT 10/Diabolist 2 Race: Tiefling Senses: DV: 60
Initiative: 18 AC: 47 (10+14 CHA+5 NA +5 Def +8 BoA +5 AoNA)
STR: 8 (-1) TOUCH: 29 FF: 33
CON: 0 (0) FORT: 19
DEX: 7 (-2) REF: 19
INT: 16 (3) WILL: 15
WIS: 12 (1) BAB: 10
CHA: 38 (14) CMB: 9 CMD: 17
ATTACK: (Touch) +9 (1D8+10)
SPECIAL: Negative
• Feats: 10 +2 Bonus*
o Craft Wondrous Items, Eschew Materials*, Silent Spell (No cost)*, Noble Scion (War), Improved Initiative, Fiendish Heritage (Demon Spawn), Empower Spell, Quicken spell, Craft rod, Craft arms and armor, Craft construct, Boon companion
• Equipment:
o Ring of Protection +5, Bracers of Armor +8, Headband of alluring charisma +5, tome of charisma +5, Amulet of natural armor +5, Orange Ioun Stone, robes of arcane heritage, Two iron Golems, stone golem, 8,564 Gold
• RACIAL
o Demon Spawn (+2 STR/CHA, -2 INT) +2 Perception, Disable Device, Shatter 1/day, Treat CHA as +2 for sorcerer abilities, DV: 60, Resist Cold Electric, Fire 10. TRAITS: Reactionary, Hedge mage
• CLASS
o Sorcerer: Infernal (+2 CHA for all abilities) +2 DC of charm, Corrupting Touch 18/Day,
o Oracle: Dual Cursed Legalistic/Deaf (Always Silent Spell, No deaf penalty, +3 perception, Scent) Lore (Sidestep secret, Misfortune*)
o Theurge: Combine Spells (1st-5th), Spell Synthesis
o Diabolist: Damned, Imp Companion, Infernal Charisma
o Lich: +5 NA, +4 Channel Resist, DR 15/Blunt Magic, Fear Aura, Paralyze, Rejuvenate,
Spells:
Oracle: CL: 14, Concentration 28, DC: 10+14+SL (24+SL) +2 on Charm
0) Known: 9: Detect magic, Create water, spark, virtue, guidance, enhanced diplomacy, purify food and drink, light, detect poison
1) Known: 5: 10/Day: Ill Omen*, Inflict Light Wounds, Curse water, Restore corpse, Bane, Ant Haul
2) Known: 5: 10/Day: Oracles Burden*, Undetectable Alignment, Desecrate, Find Traps, Grace, Zone of Truth
3) Known: 4: 9/Day: Animate Dead, Bestow Curse, Stone Shape, Protection from energy
4) Known: 4: 9/Day: Air Walk, Dimensional anchor, Inflict Critical Wounds, Dismissal
5) Known: 3: 9/Day: Plane Shift, Unhallow, Fickle Winds
6) Known: 2: 8/Day: Create Undead, Harm
7) Known: 1: 5/Day: Ethereal Jaunt
Sorcerer: CL: 16, Concentration 30, DC: 10+15+SL (25+SL) +2 on Charm
0) Known: 9: At Will: Read Magic, Ghost Sound, Bleed, Disrupt Undead, Mending, Jolt, Message, Arcane Mark, Prestidigitation
1) Known: 5: 10/Day: Protection from Good*, Ray of Enfeeblement, Magic Missile, Charm Person, Grease, Alarm
2) Known: 5: 10/Day: Alter Self, Blindness, Darkness, Unnatural Lust, Web,
3) Known: 5: 9/Day: Fireball, Dispel Magic, Explosive Runes, Haste, Stinking Cloud,
4) Known: 5: 9/Day: Dimensional Door, Enervate, Greater Invisibility, Lesser Simulacrum, Emergency Force Sphere
5) Known: 4: 9/Day: Mages Private Sanctum, Dominate Person, Teleport, Nightmare, transmute mud to rock (Page of spell knowledge)
6) Known: 3: 9/Day: Contingency (See Text), Flesh To Stone, Contagious Flames
7) Known: 2: 7/Day: Spell Turning, Prismatic Spray
8) Known: 1: 5/Day: Mass Charm Monster
SKILLS (108)
- Acrobatics
- Appraise
- Bluff
- Climb
- Craft (alchemy)
- Diplomacy 37
- Disable Device
- Disguise
- Escape Artist
- Fly
- Handle Animal
- Heal
- Intimidate 37
- Knowledge (Arcana) 37
- Knowledge (Religion) 37
- Knowledge (Planes) 37
- Knowledge ( )
- Knowledge ( )
- Knowledge ( )
- Knowledge ( )
- Knowledge ( )
- Linguistics
- Perception
- Preform
- Profession
- Ride
- Sense Motive
- Sleight of Hand
- Spellcraft 15
- Stealth
- Survival
- Swim
- Use Magic Device 15
Juxuz The Vile Align: LE HD: 16D10+32 (120) Speed: 20 Fly 50
Class: Animal Companion Race: Imp Senses: DV: 60
Initiative: AC: 47 (10+12 NA +6 DEX)
STR: 20 (5) TOUCH: 29 FF: 33
CON: 14 (2) FORT: 7
DEX: 23 (6) REF: 16 (Improved Evasion)
INT: 13 (1) WILL: 11
WIS: 12 (1) BAB: 16
CHA: 14 (2) CMB: 19 CMD: 35
ATTACK: (Sting) +25/20 (1D4+5)
SPECIAL: Poison DC: 22 (1D2 Dex 1/Round for 5 Minutes or rounds)
FEATS: 8
Ability Focus Poison, Weapon Finesse, Craft Wondrous Items, Master Craftsman, Quicken Spell Like Ability (Invisibility), Quicken Spell Like Ability (Invisibility), Flyby Attack
Gear: Belt of Strength +4
SQ:
Change Shape: Young Giant Spider
Link, Share Spells, Evasion, Improved Evasion, Devotion, Multi-attack,
Constant Detect Good/ Magic, Telepathy 50,
At Will: Invisibility (CL 6), ghost sound, deathwatch
1/day: Suggestion (CL 12), Curse water, silent image, identify, floating disk
1/Week: Commune (CL 12)
SKILLS: 112 Points
Acrobatics 25
Craft (Painting) 20
Fly 33
Arcana 20
Perception 20
Spellcraft 20
Stealth 33
Juxuz The Unliving LE HD: 16D10+80 (168) DR 15/Blunt Magic Speed: 20 Fly 50
Class: Animal Companion Race: Imp Lich Senses: DV: 60
Initiative: 6 AC: 33 (10+17 NA +6 DEX)
STR: 20 (5) TOUCH: 29 FF: 33
CON: 0 (0) FORT: 10
DEX: 23 (6) REF: 16 (Improved Evasion)
INT: 15 (2) WILL: 12
WIS: 14 (2) BAB: 16
CHA: 20 (5) CMB: 19 CMD: 35
ATTACK: (Sting) +25/20 (1D8+8)
SPECIAL: Poison DC: 25 (1D2 Dex 1/R 5 R), Paralyze (DC: 25)
FEATS: 8
Ability Focus Poison, Ability Focus Paralyze, Weapon Finesse, Craft Wondrous Items, Quicken Spell Like Ability (Invisibility), Quicken Spell Like Ability (Invisibility), Improved Initiative, Flyby Attack
Gear: Belt of Strength +4
SQ:
Link, Share Spells, Evasion, Improved Evasion, Devotion, Multi-attack,
Constant Detect Good/ Magic, Telepathy 50
At Will: Invisibility (CL 6), ghost sound, deathwatch
1/day: Suggestion (CL 12), Curse water, silent image, identify, floating disk
6/Day: Quickened Invisibility (CL 6)
1/Week: Commune (CL 12)
SKILLS: 112 Points
Acrobatics 25
Craft (Painting) 20
Fly 33
Arcana 20
Perception 29
Spellcraft 20
Stealth 41
Lich: Juxuz has completed the same method of eternal life as his master, This was done through the use of master craftsmen and his phylactery is a painting of an angelic scene with Asmodeus hidden within (DC: 30 perception, The DC used is 10+craft skill) If the cost of the phylactery must come from the master remove an iron golem and the stone golem. He has all qualities of a lich and the standard DC of his powers is 10+5+8 or 23.
How about a melee lich?
Like a Oracle4/Sorc 1/Dragon Disciple 10...
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Just so we're clear, we're building a lv20 character, any class we want, and then applying the Lich template to it, right? Do we have to include the rituals for lichdom or the process in any way, or is it just "here's a Lich with 20 levels of a PC class, roll initiative"?
And the purpose is to create the hardest encounter, or the most memorable endgame villain for a campaign? How important is the backstory and motivation compared to the stats? It seems t me like the goals and agenda of a Lich are just as important as a stat sheet, since like a ghost they're pretty much impossible to defeat through standard means-- you have to either find their phylactery, or figure out their plan and foil that.
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The way I made mine I built a concept and made my NPC to that. Gelgizit is an ancient drow who has his his phylactery on the moon wrapped in lead so he cannot be destroyed. I like having a personality for them so that they are not a pre thought character but have motives. Karthu was a twisted creature at birth, noble parents who scorned him for his fiendish blood which erupted later in life as sorcerous powers. Lastly fate left him deaf but ever seeking knowledge.
These are awesome I like the concepts behind them and a bard would be cool to see or a ranger
I might try starting out a bard in next hour anyone have thought on race?
I might try starting out a bard in next hour anyone have thought on race?Catfolk.
Alright went with catfolk might go with the dirge archetype since it fits but it replaces all the bardic stuff (versatile performance, well versed, lore master, jack of all trades) i'm sure these don't matter much for a lich but I don't know
Alright went with catfolk might go with the dirge archetype since it fits but it replaces all the bardic stuff (versatile performance, well versed, lore master, jack of all trades) i'm sure these don't matter much for a lich but I don't knowI might try starting out a bard in next hour anyone have thought on race?Catfolk.
Started the bardic lich but someone cast lullaby then sleep so now *yawn* I will sleep *yawn* but when I wake I will finish the bardic lich *snores*
Started the bardic lich but someone cast lullaby then sleep so now *yawn* I will sleep *yawn* but when I wake I will finish the bardic lich *snores*Alright went with catfolk might go with the dirge archetype since it fits but it replaces all the bardic stuff (versatile performance, well versed, lore master, jack of all trades) i'm sure these don't matter much for a lich but I don't knowI might try starting out a bard in next hour anyone have thought on race?Catfolk.
Alright I didn't do as well as I thought I could I didn't get feats or equipment or spells yet :( harder to do this on a phone than I thought
Bab 15/10/5 d8+15
Spells known 6/6/6/6/6/5/5
Spells per day 9/9/9/8/8/8
Favored class bonus +10 to knowledge = +20 knowledge checks via bardic knowledge
Lvl 20 catfolk lich dirge bard
Equipment I got so far:
Circlet of persuasion +3 cha cost 4500
Headband alluring charisma +6 cost 18000
Robe of bones cost 2400
Green sphere ioun stone +2 cha cost 8000
I was wanting to go with a stand in the back maybe shooting or just forcing his minions to fight while he plays a organ not sure if anyone can fix/finish this build
Thought i'd bump this see if anyone has any better lich ideas than me lol
I have a Ninja/Antipaladin coming up soon. Need to work on the skills though.
Sounds cool I failed epically with the bardic one lol sucks woulda been cool
I Had a Sudden Vision Of AMBARBARIAN as a Lich...
If you are looking for a truly meaty boss-fight a Summoner (synthesist) 19/Oracle (revelation with cha to AC) 1 Lich could fit the bill. Just gear it up with some defensive stuff (consider something special for dissmissal, banishment and the like).
I'll see if I can stat one up