Rogue / Wizard multi-class or is there an appropriate combo class?


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Grimmy wrote:
That is true in this case the OP did ask for other options, but later in the thread he has been saying, hey even if it's not the best I really think I want to play a straight wizard/rogue.

No where was that said. Someone has said they thought it would be great and its okay if its not, but there isn't a thing saying its acceptable to be supbar on purpose. That's something that has been stated should be avoided.


if he go for AT in my opinion rogue is a good choice, the 8 skill points balance the 2 skill point from the wizard, he can get the sniper´s eye rogue talent and can disarm normal and magical traps...i think is that OP whants.


Sniper eye is generally a bad talent to take due to the existence of sniper googles -- however it will probably work better in PFS due to the more limited wealth and odd points that come up in the game.

Something to certainly consider would be the (I believe it is called) shadow strike feat. If you are dealing with shadowy conditions on a regular basis then you are going to want the way to get around concealment ruining your sneak attacks.


sniper eye ignore concealment within 30 feet, sniper googles has nothing with that.


Leonardo Trancoso wrote:
sniper eye ignore concealment within 30 feet, sniper googles has nothing with that.

Or you can always ignore concealment for the purposes of sneak attack with shadow strike. Its an unfortunate tax for rogues. Sniper goggles and shadow strike serve two different purposes.


Leonardo Trancoso wrote:
sniper eye ignore concealment within 30 feet, sniper googles has nothing with that.

Yeah I was thinking of the abilities that extended sneak attack.

But you miss understand the ability:

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Benefit: A rogue with this talent can apply her sneak attack damage on ranged attacks targeting foes within 30 feet that benefit from concealment. Foes with total concealment are still immune.

You don't ignore concealment, you can just sneak attack concealed characters, and even then shadow strike is better because it works on all sneak attacks.

Like MrSin said.


MrSin wrote:
Grimmy wrote:
That is true in this case the OP did ask for other options, but later in the thread he has been saying, hey even if it's not the best I really think I want to play a straight wizard/rogue.
No where was that said. Someone has said they thought it would be great and its okay if its not, but there isn't a thing saying its acceptable to be supbar on purpose. That's something that has been stated should be avoided.

Maybe I made a mistake then. I thought he said he was excited about rogue/wizard combo and wants to give it a try even if something better is out there.

Silver Crusade

Grimmy, you're correct that I'm heavily leaning towards a R/W combo. This thread actually brought out a lot more than I ever expected. I only own the core book right now and need to be careful on what I choose for PFS play so that it's legal. The Arcane Trickster seems intriguing and worth me looking into.

The responses have been very enlightening. Some have simply blown me away with the inventiveness some people have for character creation and feat selection. Again, when I look at just the Core feats, I don't see a tenth of what you guys are referring to but I certainly know where to start looking.

I think the next book I'll acquire is the APG and hopefully I'll be able to pick up on some of the recommendations from that.

I can envision the R/W as a scout that ends up in the rear lines (especially after the first couple of levels or so) of the battle like a Wizard would do. Plus, he'll be probably pretty good with a bow.

The only sort of disappointment with PFS play is that your character retires when it hits level 12 and there are very limited play options for it after that. So, I wonder if a R/W that ends up with level 3/8 would be crippled due to not being good in direct battle (but then again, is any rogue?) and gimped of the higher level spells.

Worst case scenario. I build up the character, try it out, and see what happens. Should be fun regardless! I guess, really, really worst case, it gets easily killed off and the decision is made for me that it was not a good combo! LOL


Prethen wrote:

So, I wonder if a R/W that ends up with level 3/8 would be crippled due to not being good in direct battle (but then again, is any rogue?) and gimped of the higher level spells.

Arcane Trickster is how you can address that. Think of it as though you are staying with the rogue/wizard multi-class, the arcane trickster prestige class just advances aspects of both classes whenever you level so you don't fall behind too much.

Silver Crusade

Grimmy, now that I've taken another look at the AT....you're right. That prestige class might be dead on what I'm looking for! I'll investigate it a bit more and it looks like I'll have the chance to put in the number of levels I was going to anyway with the R/W. Thanks!


Yeah if you are going with wizard and rogue then you might as well go arcane trickster. there is little to no reason not to.

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