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Then the plot is even more obtuse and invisible to players than average.
Nope, the micro-plot (or plot for an individual scenario) for Bonekeep is fairly transparent. The macro-plot is unfolding more with each part, and revealing the plot in pieces is what I'd prefer.
PCs have several encounters that involve <redacted>. They also find a <redacted>, which is pretty cool. They scratch their heads a bit and wonder at the larger story before dragging out any survivors.
The PCs encounter more of <redacted>, leading some to posit that there might be a greater connection. They also find another <redacted>, which suggests further connections. Many groups perish before uncovering the entire plot.
If, however, this is not to your satisfaction and is instead indicative of further failure to meet your standards of plot transparency, I invite you to start another thread to discuss the degree to which scenarios allow players to understand both the micro- and macro-plotlines--an area I have consciously endeavored to improve since I started working for Paizo. Otherwise, I fear your negative remark may not have had the effect that you had hoped for.
Kindest regards,
John
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Then the plot is even more obtuse and invisible to players than average.
Nope, the micro-plot (or plot for an individual scenario) for Bonekeep is fairly transparent. The macro-plot is unfolding more with each part, and revealing the plot in pieces is what I'd prefer.
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If, however, this is not to your satisfaction and is instead indicative of further failure to meet your standards of plot transparency, I invite you to start another thread to discuss the degree to which scenarios allow players to understand both the micro- and macro-plotlines--an area I have consciously endeavored to improve since I started working for Paizo. Otherwise, I fear your negative remark may not have the impact that you had hoped for.
Kindest regards,
John
Having played and ran both I thought the plot was obviously being obscured as we learned more about the dungeon. Like any good operatic song cycle, the major plotline is rarely fully revealed in the second act.
Bonekeep games are my absolute favorite PFS games (though Waking Rune is up there too. And The Elven Entanglement almost got me killed). I hadn't heard that 3 and 4 will be 5-9, that's awesome. I know a lot of players who are going to be very happy about that.
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I hope the remaining parts are better than level 1 is.
I ran through The Silent Grave last night as a player and all I can say is... BORING. Unless one likes to make Fort saves every round vs Disease while fighting the spawn.
I don't know who wrote this but you gotta believe Paizo is paying them too much! Should have been named "Ruins of Bonehead", or "How many Fort saves can you make in a night"
I'll never buy this scenario, nor GM it when available, and I certainly will never smoke a GM Star to play it again.
And NO, my character did NOT die, although 3 others did.
Sorry if I seem blunt, but this is my honest opinion.
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Then the plot is even more obtuse and invisible to players than average.
Nope, the micro-plot (or plot for an individual scenario) for Bonekeep is fairly transparent. The macro-plot is unfolding more with each part, and revealing the plot in pieces is what I'd prefer.
Having just played level 3 this past Sunday, I can back John up on the fact that the story of Bonekeep is fairly obvious to those who can survive to see it. ;)
