Almost Human


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So, is anyone here watching it? Whataya think of it?


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I like it. Will need to see a few episodes to know if they can keep it up.


I liked it. It would make a great setting for a RPG.


Enjoyable for the most part...i'll keep watching.


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AFAIC, it's the best show on TV. And that's just after 2 episodes.

(It's my new replacement for Fringe, the previous best show on TV.)


The writing is good, as are the actors. Still not sure where they are going with the android partner, but at least he's not a Data clone.

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Liking it so far. The beginning was a little too 'I, Robot' (only with much less Will Smith), but pretty cool, regardless.

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Seen it, loved it. Loved it more then Agents of shield. Damn.


Set wrote:
Liking it so far. The beginning was a little too 'I, Robot' (only with much less Will Smith), but pretty cool, regardless.

I thought that as well, but not with the word "too", and I considered it a feature, not a bug.

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"I ran a bioscan and I couldn't help but notice that your testicles were filled to capacity"

This is now my very favorite TV quote of all time.


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Seen it, loved it. Loved it more then Agents of shield. Damn.

My new favorite show on tv. And I haven't even watched it yet!


It's definitely the best thing to come out of the new season. Lots of enjoyable series hit this year, but both episodes so far have been movie-like in quality.

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I'm watching it on Hulu, so I'm not sure, but this is by Fox, right?

And it's well-written and enjoyable?

So, cancelled in six episodes, or will it make eight? So hard to tell with Fox.

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maybe eight


Indeed. With the likely excuse that it's too expensive. (And it sure looks it, AFAIC.)


Expensive shows must draw big demographics to warrant their budgets...


My first thought was it was very Blade Runner-esque, in a good way. Fox will eventually move it to the Friday death slot and that will be that. Fox just doesn't get sci-fi.


Does any network?


Just watched the first two episodes this weekend. Thought it was enjoyable, if a bit predictable at points. The setup of the leads gave me an Alien Nation vibe (surly human cop paired with non-human one) but I loved that show back in the day, so that's a positive in my book.


So while I didn't dislike last night's episode, I was kind of disappointed they felt the need to pretty much rehash the plot of

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Die Hard
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It's called an homage. And it was well done, with enough difference for the episode to be good. Weaker then the previous two, but still good.

Also curse my fickle heart, I'm in love with Minka Kelly now.


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Last night's episode wasn't to my taste; the SF angle was mildly clever, but didn't drive the story enough to overcome my distaste for hostage scenarios. However, I am impressed by the small background touches in panning/establishing shots--FX that don't slap you in the face but do what they're supposed to do.


I found the differences to be extremely negligible. Like I said, I didn't dislike the episode, but it felt more like a lazy copy than a tribute to the movie. I think they either needed to change more or else hew even closer in a "we're totally riffing on this movie" way.


I liked parts of it, but it seemed a very slow episode. I know they were being cautious and all, but it really took them nearly an hour to climb the stairs?


QXL99 wrote:
Last night's episode wasn't to my taste; the SF angle was mildly clever, but didn't drive the story enough to overcome my distaste for hostage scenarios. However, I am impressed by the small background touches in panning/establishing shots--FX that don't slap you in the face but do what they're supposed to do.

This. Oh-so-this in every regard.


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[snooty European] Going by the trailers I think I'll stick to the Swedish show it's based on.[/snooty European]

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Kajehase wrote:
[snooty European] Going by the trailers I think I'll stick to the Swedish show it's based on.[/snooty European]

You mean the one that was based on the American science fiction stories of Isaac Asimov featuring a human detective (Elijah Baley) and his robot partner (R. Daneel Olivaw)from 1953, like every other cop/robot partner story?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caves_of_Steel


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Except the Swedish original isn't a cop/robot partner story.

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The GF convinced me to give this a shot. Glad she did so far its the only network show worth watching this year. Really enjoy the interaction between Keenex and Dorian. Hopefully they dont kill it to fund unfrozen fairy tale lawyer.


Yeah, while the Fringe approach to technology bugs me a bit, this show has all the camaraderie and humor lacking in the not-quite-awful Agents of SHIELD.

So, yes, I fully expect Fox to cancel it halfway through its first season.


This week's episode was batter than last week's, I thought--quite a bit of enjoyable banter. Once again, though, the SF of the show was marginal at best--this could have been a contemporary police drama with little adjustment. And that's a problem as I don't care all that much for procedurals--unless the SF gets amped back up, I don't know how long I'll stick with this show...

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QXL99 wrote:
This week's episode was batter than last week's, I thought--quite a bit of enjoyable banter. Once again, though, the SF of the show was marginal at best--this could have been a contemporary police drama with little adjustment. And that's a problem as I don't care all that much for procedurals--unless the SF gets amped back up, I don't know how long I'll stick with this show...

My guess is they are working inside a budget right now. They probably want to focus on the banter as much as possible to draw attention away from the sci-fi elements. Its working for me right now but wont forever. Hopefully this thing has a chance to get green lit so they can up the ante.

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The SF elements are good. There is no need to amp it up too much and risk alienating muggles. I, personally would have liked for the series to have flying cars, but hey...


Honestly, the only real difference between this and other procedurals is this one actually admits the science involved is sci-fi.

That being said, I'm continuing to find it entertaining. I was a little curious about the bad guys'

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robot. Was he a contemporary of Dorian's line? He seemed a little less "stiff" than the modern models and did the similar face glowing thing, albeit purple. I can only assume they got a hold of him the same way Rudy claimed to have gotten a hold of Dorian.

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Plus he smiled smugly while he held Dorian when he entered to 'bring Rudy his glasses'


This show is awesome enough in that The Crystal Method is scoring the show's soundtrack.

They're doing (almost) everything right (as much as they can - talking a tad more about the sci-fi aspect couldn't hurt).


Making a buddy cop show with a sci-fi slant shouldn't be something out of the ordinary, but it is. Because of that, they've hit an under-used niche (and the buddy-cop thing is all over the place). This show feels kinda fresh because it's moving in the sci-fi field.

Michael Ealy was costar of Common Law, a buddy cop show on USA Network that was undeservedly cancelled after its debut season. It was solid and should have gotten another year.

His partner had a small part as a radar operator (or something like that) on the battleship in The Avengers.


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Kalshane wrote:
Honestly, the only real difference between this and other procedurals is this one actually admits the science involved is sci-fi.

You don't think the whole exploration of what it means to be a person (and what it means to relate more to something that isn't considered a person than actual people) is a noteworthy deviation from the norm of procedural drama?

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Scott Betts wrote:
Kalshane wrote:
Honestly, the only real difference between this and other procedurals is this one actually admits the science involved is sci-fi.
You don't think the whole exploration of what it means to be a person (and what it means to relate more to something that isn't considered a person than actual people) is a noteworthy deviation from the norm of procedural drama?

Well, considering that they've barely touched on it since the first episode, really?

I was hooked by the first couple eps for that very reason, but the more recent two have been pretty by-the-numbers efforts that didn't have much to offer beyond what I could get from any cop show on TV right now.


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You don't think the whole exploration of what it means to be a person (and what it means to relate more to something that isn't considered a person than actual people) is a noteworthy deviation from the norm of procedural drama?

Sorry, that was more meant to be a pithy comment on the ridiculous "science" on modern cop shows than a knock on Almost Human.

That being said, we haven't seen much exploration of that dynamic yet, outside of the pilot.


HolmesandWatson wrote:
His partner had a small part as a radar operator (or something like that) on the battleship in The Avengers.

Are you talking about Karl Urban? i.e. "Bones" McCoy from the Star Trek reboot.

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Vanulf Wulfson wrote:
HolmesandWatson wrote:
His partner had a small part as a radar operator (or something like that) on the battleship in The Avengers.
Are you talking about Karl Urban? i.e. "Bones" McCoy from the Star Trek reboot.

I think he was still referring to Early's co-star from Common Law, who was indeed the blink-and-you'll-miss-him bridge dude on the helicarrier.

I think he was the only SHIELD person on the Helicarrier bridge (or the entire helicarrier, come to think of it) who had a speaking line apart from Fury and Hill.


Kalshane wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:


You don't think the whole exploration of what it means to be a person (and what it means to relate more to something that isn't considered a person than actual people) is a noteworthy deviation from the norm of procedural drama?

Sorry, that was more meant to be a pithy comment on the ridiculous "science" on modern cop shows than a knock on Almost Human.

That being said, we haven't seen much exploration of that dynamic yet, outside of the pilot.

It pops up every now and then (olive oil on the leg; thinking that stabbing your cybernetic leg is a cool trick to show a kid IT TOTALLY IS; risking your life to save an android about to be shot; altering speech patterns or mimicking other voices entirely in order to make the other person more cooperative; etc.). Right now it's being used as spice to flavor the social interactions, but I think it's safe to assume they'll be revisiting it in a more in-depth way later this season.


Scott Betts wrote:
Kalshane wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:


You don't think the whole exploration of what it means to be a person (and what it means to relate more to something that isn't considered a person than actual people) is a noteworthy deviation from the norm of procedural drama?
That being said, we haven't seen much exploration of that dynamic yet, outside of the pilot.
It pops up every now and then (olive oil on the leg; thinking that stabbing your cybernetic leg is a cool trick to show a kid IT TOTALLY IS; risking your life to save an android about to be shot; altering speech patterns or mimicking other voices entirely in order to make the other person more cooperative; etc.). Right now it's being used as spice to flavor the social interactions, but I think it's safe to assume they'll be revisiting it in a more in-depth way later this season.

I liked the "synthetics" as a slur in the first episode, and Dorian's interactions/reactions with/toward the sexbots in the second episode.


Oh, there's definitely callbacks to the pilot, but I'm not sure how much that's actually playing up the "what does it mean to be human" thing.

I will say, there is still an interesting dynamic between the characters, and how Kennex treats Dorian (I'd almost say it feels like he occasionally forgets Dorian is an android, and then feels the need to be an ass to make up for it when he realizes it) and how the two of them approach different situations (like the aforementioned sexbots) but other times it feels like there should be more of a commentary/emphasis on the difference/similarities between them and it doesn't happen.

Of course, this is a sci-fi show early in its first season. If history is any indicator, this show should be knocking it out the park come season 2 or 3. :)


Set wrote:
Vanulf Wulfson wrote:
HolmesandWatson wrote:
His partner had a small part as a radar operator (or something like that) on the battleship in The Avengers.
Are you talking about Karl Urban? i.e. "Bones" McCoy from the Star Trek reboot.

I think he was still referring to Early's co-star from Common Law, who was indeed the blink-and-you'll-miss-him bridge dude on the helicarrier.

I think he was the only SHIELD person on the Helicarrier bridge (or the entire helicarrier, come to think of it) who had a speaking line apart from Fury and Hill.

Yes, him. I think he spoke twice in the Avengers. I meant that he was Ealy's partner on Common Law. It really was a decent show.

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I loved the 5th episode. Especially when Dorian flipped that van over like it was a paper toy. Oh and the fact that he is equipped for more then one man.
Also, the ken doll thing was pretty disturbing, but funny.

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I would love to have the makeup and effects team set me up as one of those synthetic cops. I would have so much fun at parties.


I think they've been using that "what is human" theme to varying degrees since the pilot. It took a back seat for a few episodes (which I appreciate; i don't want to drown in the theme), but we got shades of it again in this last episode with the sidekick's request for a place of his own.

I've enjoyed the show so far.


Anybody else a little disturbed by the casualness of a van full of clones being killed by robot? Nobody seemed to be the least bit disturbed by it, just surprised he was able to do it.

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