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So Ive seen the Hulk and Cap builds and suggestions for a Synth Summoner for Iron Man, but I haven't seen much for Thor.
So what I've come up with so far was
Human
Invulnerable Rager Barbarian (To emulate his ability to soak damage)
(I also put all my favored class bonus into +1hp)
Traits wise I don't know what would work best.
Str: 18 (+2)
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 12
Cha: 12
Feats:
Bonus: Deadly Aim
1: Power Attack
3: Opening Volley
5: Weapon Focus Warhammer
7: Vital Strike
9: Furious Finish
Rage Powers:
2: Reckless Abandon
4: Renewed Vigor
6: Ground Breaker
8: Increased Damage Reduction
10: Powerful Blow
For Mjolnir - I had a +4 Adamantine Shocking Burst Throwing Warhammer
with a Greater Belt of Mighty Hurling to give it the Returning property and a +4 Str bonus to boot.
And that's kind of as far as I've gotten.
I know I want to get Come and Get Me when I get the chance.
I've also been thinking of Close-Quarters Thrower but don't know if it's worth the feat chain.
Any suggestions on any of it?
Check out this thread on how to build superheroes; the conversation is still going on, and there's a pretty nice build for Thor as a Angel-Blooded Aasimar (Angelkin) Barbarian (Armored Hulk) 2 Oracle 4 Rage Prophet 6 there, too.
Awesome!! Thank you!!
Hmm I felt that was a bit too much spell casting for Thor. I feel he's way more martial than that.
I feel like Thor would be an aasimar (angel-blooded), like ecw1701 says. Actually that build looks pretty legitimate to me. Oracle and Rage Prophet just fit Thor to me.
Hmm I felt that was a bit too much spell casting for Thor. I feel he's way more martial than that.
Agree. He isn't a caster at all.
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Hmm I felt that was a bit too much spell casting for Thor. I feel he's way more martial than that.Agree. He isn't a caster at all.
Well, I can see using some casting ability if you can cover some of his extra powers with it. Just try to focus on combat self/weapon buffs and lots of lightning/sonic abilities and some kinds of flight.
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In addition to shooting lightning bolts Thor can also do the following. Control the weather, fly, travel through to other dimensions, and a couple things I have probably missed. The weather control alone is a lot of casting. Even some low level spells like obscuring mist fit the theme.
Magi get a spell called Force Hook Change, which is pretty much how Thor Flies in the comics. I recently did a Dwarven Magus with the Black Blade Archetype that was reflavored to use hammers instead, with Force Hook change he basically WAS Thor, albeit shorter and smarter.
For a pure Thor build I'd do a Strength Based Black Blade Magus/Cabalist(for Cha use, probably with celestial, maestro, or Imperious Bloodlines) that uses a Warhammer or some other hammer variant. Obvious the Hammer use and Cabalsit is 3rd party, but the mechanics work without the two, the black hammer and cha based stuff is just for better flavor.
Force Hook change is basically spot on how Thor Flies and the best abilities Magi get are lightning based.
For the Mythical Thor, he'd probably either be the above magus build or an Inquistor/Paladin(Sacred Servant) with the Rage or a Weather based domain(etc) domain. Likely tossing in Eldrich Heritage for either Celestial or Elemental Bloodlines, or both.
You can get all the lightning and sonic attacks with a SHocking Burst Thunderous weapon. Doesn't need to be a caster for that.
Flying he did by throwing Mjolnir and holding on. He couldn't actually fly. But I was covering that with Celestial Armor which gives him Fly.
I agree about the Aasimar. I'll probably change that.
Also, he couldnt' control the weather. He could just summon lightning and thunder storms. He couldn't make it snow or change winter into summer. Again things I feel are better covered by the hammer itself.
I have thought about Magus, but then you have a bit of a harder time with surviability. Thor is also known for being able to take some serious hits and laugh it off. I mean Hulk and Thor regularly beat the snot out of each other.
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Well, couple of things.
First, Thor is the God of Thunder; *he* controls the weather, Mjolnir is just his focus for doing so.
He also shape shifts / polymorphs into Dr. Donald Blake, a magical effect.
He enrages (like a barbarian), and is essentially physically invulnerable.
Here is a pretty extensive list of powers Thor has been seen to do in his 50+ years of comic appearances.
I definitely think all of that is best approximated by Angel-Blooded Aasimar (Angelkin) Barbarian (Armored Hulk) 2 Oracle 4 Rage Prophet 6.
regardless of how much casting you want him to do- that stormborn eldritch heritage feat line would provide an number of good Thor abilities (shocking weapon, resists, summon lightning, and ride the lightning).
angelkin aasimar is the way to go.
Every build of Thor is different and no single build is all inclusive, "right", or "badwrongfun". I am not familiar with the Aasimar variants such as Angelkin, but I wish to make a my argument.
Thor has a special enmity for giants, and likes to drink & fight (more of the traditional Valhalla standpoint than Marvel). Sound like any other race I know? Dwarves, combined with their hardy nature, make a strong stand for Thor.
As for class, all mentioned certainly have their merits, but Titan Mauler Barbarian should be considered as well. Made sense to me, using a dwarf as my basis, anyway.
Eldritch Heritage (Stormborn) feat tree definitely holds validity for any build. Also, going with the dwarf, Power Attack and Cleave from the Core Rulebook, and Goblin Cleaver, Orc Hewer, and Giant Killer from Advanced Races Guide.
Mjolnir might be the most disputed weapon in the game. Is it a dwarven thrower? An argument could be made. I personally believe that Mjolnir is an intelligent warhammer, deeming who is worthy to wield it. Give it shocking burst, fly at will, and call lightning 3/day. Early comics believed that Thor flew by throwing Mjolnir and holding on to it. Finally, let's not forget the inscription on Mjolnir:
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."
Depending on the writer, this meant without Mjolnir, Thor was just an Asgardian, like Bor, Sif, or Freya. Still a more than capable warrior, but lacking the other abilities. Yet other writers as long a Thor is "worthy" and capable of wielding Mjolnir, he retains the weather abilities.
However you wish to build Thor, make sure you have fun while playing him. Remember, no one build is "perfect".
"All the power of the storm, from all the world, flows through my veins, and can be summoned by mine hammer at any time, wherever it is. A lightning storm in Japan? Mine. A hurricane off the coast of Barbados? Mine again. A brace of tornadoes in Kansas? Aye...mine. All that might, all that destructive force, mine to command. Channeled and guided through the mystic might of this hammer, guided right at thee!" - Thor
I totally agree with the Aasimar. I hadn't looked at that and it's spot on.
I also, hadn't thought of the EH Stormborn either. That's also a good find.
Finally, I do agree that the Dwarven racials are way better for Thor. But he's not a Dwarf. I would have to see about getting my GM to just use it but say he looks like a normal human.
I still don't see Oracle so much in my view of Thor, but Rage Prophet may be better than I had originally perceived it to be.
If you can choose 3rd party classes, I'd suggest the Mighty Godling.
Well, I can see using some casting ability if you can cover some of his extra powers with it. Just try to focus on combat self/weapon buffs and lots of lightning/sonic abilities and some kinds of flight.Hmm I felt that was a bit too much spell casting for Thor. I feel he's way more martial than that.Agree. He isn't a caster at all.
I agree he can use magic. We are not talking about level 10 character.
He is a God and a powerful God.
He has at least 20 class levels, 10 mythic levels and has probably lots of SpA and SU, but the class levels should not be that of a caster. It shoyuld be Barbarian or fighter, or perhaps both.
You can get all the lightning and sonic attacks with a SHocking Burst Thunderous weapon. Doesn't need to be a caster for that.
Flying he did by throwing Mjolnir and holding on. He couldn't actually fly. But I was covering that with Celestial Armor which gives him Fly.
I agree about the Aasimar. I'll probably change that.
Also, he couldnt' control the weather. He could just summon lightning and thunder storms. He couldn't make it snow or change winter into summer. Again things I feel are better covered by the hammer itself.
I have thought about Magus, but then you have a bit of a harder time with surviability. Thor is also known for being able to take some serious hits and laugh it off. I mean Hulk and Thor regularly beat the snot out of each other.
actually that's a common misconception. thor CAN fly, he just generally uses his hammer for it--so much so, that he's forgotten that he can fly until someone else pointed it out to him in a few runs.
Here's the one I went with for a PFS character.
Click his name...took me a bit to figure that out; but you all are undoubtedly smarter than I am ;).
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]actually that's a common misconception. thor CAN fly, he just generally uses his hammer for it--so much so, that he's forgotten that he can fly until someone else pointed it out to him in a few runs.
Actually no he can't. Or more correctly, it depends on what version and era you are referring to. Marvel always liked to sort of make statements with their characters and use some logic in their design. Thor was specifically called out as not being able to fly, just because (like Superman), and instead they gave him a reason and method. That why for example Spiderman "flies" by shooting webs, Angel has wings, things like that.
For Thor, he whirls the hammer around and then throws it, holding on to the weapon cord which pulls him along. Later on they gave Mjolnir more magic abilities, such as planar travel, but that is all gone now. Another interesting fact is that Thor was also specifically designed to be stronger than the Hulk, but thy wanted to have a valid reason for that in a new character, so they figured how about making him a deity, which led to Thor.
I think that might have also changed in the Ultimates version, where he doesn't even actually have Mjolnir the vast majority of the time, and more direct control of the wind and storms.
Click his name...took me a bit to figure that out; but you all are undoubtedly smarter than I am ;).
My apologies. I posted nearly the same thing in the link above, and I forgot to come back here and add that little bit.
I'm not sure Thor should be able to fly, but with Dragon Totem Wings he can fly. That is far cooler than pounce.
To make an addition to Thor Odinson PFS on the Ultimates Thor. Thor, believing himself to be a mortal, was given a power-belt & harness which allowed flight, super-strength, and limited invulnerability. Later he was given an electric power battery in the form of Mjolnir, which could ionize the environment, control the weather, and allow the user to teleport. Eventually he has a psychotic break and realizes that he really is Thor and doesn't need the aids to use his powers.
Ultimates Powers:
- Superhuman Strength
- Superhuman Speed
- Superhuman Reflexes
- Superhuman Durability
- Weather Control
- Flight (Thor's ability to fly is innate within him, he does not require aid to fly)
- Teleportation via the use of Mjolnir