Can an intelligent magic item make Intimidate checks?


Rules Questions

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens Subscriber

Let's say I just stabbed someone in the chest with my Black Blade, which speaks Common and has a decent Charisma. Can it take a standard action to laugh, whisper "YOUR BLOOD IS DELICIOUS, HUMAN." and attempt to demoralize him with Intimidate?

I don't really think this should necessarily be done, since it has a rich, sharp flavor of cheddar and swiss, but I'm curious whether it is possible.

Especially because that's what +ULFBERH+T likes to do when I stab people with him.


If you look at the rules for creating intelligent items, the item would need to have ranks in the intimidate skill (and there is a price listed for such things and it adds to the ego score). I think they also have Int, Wis, and Cha scores to modify it. So, you could indeed generate an item with the ability to intimidate. But the ranks listed on the intelligent magic item chart max at 10, and I'm still not sure if the item can take actions on its own.


I see nothing cheesy about it, being able to take actions is part of the intelligent item rules. Remember it has no ranks in intimidate and I'm not sure how intelligent items are treated for size category, but I think it may also gets a penalty from its size.


Thats a good point, the item would definitely get a -4 for being smaller than the target.

Intelligent items can have up to a 20 in their stats. Which is +5 modifier, just overcoming the size penalty. And then could have 10 ranks in intimidate. Giving it a +11 to intimidate.


You would think there would be some method by which one can unnaturally improve this. It's one thing if it's complaining while propped up against a wall, but if it can at least, say, speak telepathically instead?

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens Subscriber
Claxon wrote:

Thats a good point, the item would definitely get a -4 for being smaller than the target.

Intelligent items can have up to a 20 in their stats. Which is +5 modifier, just overcoming the size penalty. And then could have 10 ranks in intimidate. Giving it a +11 to intimidate.

Hahaha! I hadn't thought about the fact that he would have the size penalty!

Unfortunately, I can't give my Black Blade ranks and his Charisma isn't anywhere near 20 (yet).

Could I cast eagle's splendor on my sword? It's an intelligent magic item, not a "creature," so I'm unsure.


Intelligent items are treated as constructs.

Nothing about Eagle's Splendor appears to indicate it doesn't work on constructs (it's not a mind affecting effect), but it could not wear items itself to gain a permanent bonus. You would have to cast it each time you wanted to use it.


Yeah...looking at the rules for black blades, without being able to add intimidate skill ranks and having a charisma that starts at 6 and grows as you level it seems unlikely it will ever be particularly good at intimidating others.


Ioun stones would work, I think.


The situation you describe could probably gain some circumstance bonus, though that's up to the gm.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens Subscriber

It's PFS, so unlikely there'd be much circumstance bonus going on. However... it's basically a free Intimidate check every round, so it's not like it's costing me much. For means of sanity/un-cheesiness, I'd probably resist the urge to use it except when it made sense (like the above stabbing situation).

Thanis Kartaleon wrote:
Ioun stones would work, I think.

I love the idea of an Ioun Stone orbiting my sword... Haha. However...

Quote:
These crystalline stones always float in the air and must be within 3 feet of their owner to be of any use. When a character first acquires a stone, she must hold it and then release it, whereupon it takes up a circling orbit 1d3 feet from her head. Thereafter, a stone must be grasped or netted to separate it from its owner.

I don't think it really qualifies based on the bolded bits.

Quote:
Ioun stones only float when sent spinning around the head of an intelligent (Int 3+) creature; otherwise they are as inert as common stone. They have no effect on animals, mindless constructs, and other non-sentient creatures; comatose intelligent creatures and those with significant Intelligence damage or drain cannot use ioun stones. An ioun stone has no particular affinity for the living—intelligent undead and the rare intelligent construct can make full use of them.

However, it does say intelligent constructs may make use of them...

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