Wow. That was one TRIPPY ending folks. Course people that believed in Charles' prediction proved to be right.
That ending left a good number of questions on the table though.
Overall it was a gut check to me, but we'll see what others think.
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Hatti,
Glenn Talbot isn't exactly what I'd call the sharpest mind in the Marvel U.
Speaking of which....
HOW the heck did ** spoiler omitted **
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Wow. That was one TRIPPY ending folks. Course people that believed in Charles' prediction proved to be right.
That ending left a good number of questions on the table though.
** spoiler omitted **Overall it was a gut check to me, but we'll see what others think.
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So Dr. Garner can control lash for Skye, who he's biologically programmed to kill, but not, you know, his wife?
Actually...he never harmed anyone he knew and liked (except in self-defense, and even then he didn't kill anyone who met those criteria). Including both May and Daisy. He was just seemingly incapable of stopping killing Inhumans he didn't already know and like (regardless of whether they deserved it).
Or to rephrase: His degree of control remained consistent and sharply limited throughout.
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On the finale: I liked it, felt my predictions were vindicated, and thought it worked well from both a drama and realism standpoint.
And that last bit did indeed raise a variety of very interesting questions that I look forward to finding the answers to.
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What is a LMD?
I can't believe I didn't recognize Holden as the guy who was Racheal Weisz's brother in the Mummy movies.
Life Model Decoy. Android doubles.
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Sufficiently action-packed, and with interesting developments.
I’m glad they didn’t kill off Fitz. I really thought they were going to for a bit. I loved the way he took out the telekinetic, though. And the continued playful banter between Fitz and Simmons was fun to watch.
Poor Lincoln, though. He went out like a hero, though. And that last bit with him and Hive was weird. Hive seemed to just sort of become resigned to his fate. Maybe all those centuries stuck alone on Maveth affected the humanity in him more than he realized.
Daisy was just a mess. Still, I think the actress did a good job. The scene on the plane, where she falls to her knees and begs Hive to take her back was really awesome. The fight between them was decent. I did kind of like the way they showed her using her powers to compliment her hand-to-hand combat.
As to the aftermath – 6 months forward and Daisy seems to be on the run, and Coulson is back in the field. If he’s no longer the director, I wonder who is. Maybe May? My preferred candidate would be Maria Hill.
Finally! LMDs!!!! Thank you, Doctor Radcliffe. Now, I wasn't a big collector of SHIELD related comics (except for one series of Nick Fury comics) back in the day, but I seem to recall a storyline where the LMDs either went rogue or were taken over by some enemy. Maybe that's the road they'll head down in Season 4.
So do you think the villain of season 4 will be a female Ultron?
So many questions about that "6th months later" scene and the scene with Daisy and Coulson in that container on not Maveth.
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So do you think the villain of season 4 will be a female Ultron?
Or it could be
Or, someone very powerful could hear of his work and take it from him, corrupting the LMDs.
So many questions about that "6th months later" scene and the scene with Daisy and Coulson in that container on not Maveth.
I think that scene with the two of them in the container was meant to be some sort of dream sequence. At least, that's what I took from it.
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One thing that has me intrigued as a potential story line....
It might be cool if they introduced this idea into the TV series. When you consider the thought-reading machine SHIELD got from Hydra, that could be the first steps along this path.
Aber,
The mention of the though reading machine brings back what I thought was a great use and effective way to keep Hive off balance. That was pretty awesome move.
Less awesome, taking Hive back to S.H.I.E.L.D. HQ.
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I really liked
Bonus points for hive finally finding a connection with someone without cheating.
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Cue Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" as two enemies contemplate the planet for the last time.
Damon, it was weird but yet poignant.
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Joel: The guy that lets people see a death carved it for his daughter. She promised to give it to him.
What Hatti said. The guy named James had the ability to predict other peoples death. He had made a carving of a robin for his daughter also named Robin. His wife and daughter were being helped by Daisy who is apparently going rogue Inhuman superhero of sorts.
Misroi,
I think that's more the mainstream media of MCU doing than like her taking a name. Maybe.
One thing that has me intrigued as a potential story line....
Spoiler:In a recent Howling Commandos of SHIELD comic series, they had Dum Dum Dugan as an LMD. Basically, Dugan had actually died at some point, but rather than lose his friend, Fury downloaded his memories into an LMD body. And every time his current body was destroyed, his updated memories (up until the point of destruction) would be downloaded into a new body, which then woke up.
Or, what about...
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Spoiler:It might be cool if they introduced this idea into the TV series. When you consider the thought-reading machine SHIELD got from Hydra, that could be the first steps along this path.
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One thing that has me intrigued as a potential story line....
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Or, what about...** spoiler omitted **
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That would be EPIC!!! <redacted> was awesome in that role, and to bring him back would not only make for a great villain, but also help create stronger ties what's going on in the movies.
My only problem with it would be.....
Now, if they were to bring Zola back, but make him go off on his own.....say as the leader of a revived A.I.M........
Life Model Decoy. Android doubles.
In the comics they were frequently used as doubles for Classic Fury. (The one that Stan Lee said that David Hassselhoff was the ideal actor for.) Low grade LMD's were also used for stoop labor until one got the bright idea of evolving itself by filling itself with stored memory tapes. "Nick Fury Vs. Shield", which is where the whole Hydra is Shield plotline was ripped from.
I generally like AoS, but I hope that they make them less incompetent in the future.
They get duped, infiltrated, played, out-smarted, etc all the time. Even more than in the comics, and that is darn near SHIELD's motto.
Less of that would be nice, but less guilt-tripping, navel-gazing and whining would be better, and would have a bonus of stopping the duping and being out-smarted, because then they might actually be paying attention.
Like lesson 1 on subverting prophecies: arrange the exact circumstances to come about without actually endangering anyone.
Also, on a dramatic note, passing the hot potato lessens tension, not increases it. It becomes obvious very quickly that the chain of ownership doesn't matter, only the reveal in the last few minutes does. If anything, it makes everyone earlier in the chain feel safe from danger, while doing nothing to ratchet up the tension around the current character holding it, because there is plenty of time to pass it on again.
Ugh, anyway. Just sat through the last two episodes, and have my fill of Whedon-esque senseless guilt, and as a consequence feel bloated with disgust. Having built Skye up to a decent character in season 2 and spent most of season 3 stripping her down to a one-dimensional caricature again, I hope the show will go back to focusing on SHIELD and doing secret agent stuff connected to the Marvel Universe.
Wait, am I reading this ComicCon article right? Is
Edit: Yep, Marvel confirms he's playing Robbie Reyes.
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I was happy to hear Ghost Rider would be making an appearance in the upcoming season. I was less than thrilled at their choice of which Ghost Rider. I liked Robbie Reyes well enough, but the crappy writing on the series left a bad taste with me, and the origin of his Ghost Rider powers was, I thought, rather lame. Loved the car, though. It was a nice change from the bike.
Ultimately, my favorite will always be Danny Ketch, since he was the first one I collected. That being said - GHOST RIDER!!!
Comic Con 2016: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: "Vengeance Comes This Fall"
I'm actually surprising okay with this being Reyes as opposed to Blaze or Ketch. Both of them tended to fight outside the normal weight class due to being Supernaturally powered.
In this, Reyes is supernatural power sure, but of a lesser variety. It's like...the difference between having a 20th level bard and a 20th level wizard. Both are arcane spellcasters, but the weight class they carry...way more heavy on the wizard side.
So for me, Reyes is a good choice because he's not amp'ing up the power factor when you compare him to previous 'powered people."
Plus I think this will give Season 4 more of Supernatural feel (IE the show, not the subject) so that might draw in more people.
.....I can't wait to see Mack's reaction.
Seriously, you know he is going to see that Hell possessed car and just
"no..no I'm not dealing with that."
Grey,
Technically it's not Hell possessed, just spiritually demonically infused.
But I get what you're saying.
Also I agree Mack will make some excellent comments about the car.
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Full disclosure, I am one of those comics grognards who frequently opines that " is the one true " but in this case I have no idea who Ketch and Reyes are. Johnny Blaze is the only Ghost Rider I ever read in comics. (Well, him and the Old West version, aka Night Rider aka Phantom Rider.)
Off to Google them...
...okay, "ghost of my dead uncle the serial killer?" That is seriously lame. Also not crazy about the switch from bike to car.
Damon,
The comics were fine. Just think of it less as Ghost Rider and more as "Spiritually possessed by dead uncle satanist".
That's the general assumption.
Ketch is/was the Ghost Rider AFTER Johnny Blaze and had the Penance Stare.
Then there's Alejandro. We don't speak much of her...
I remember the Penance Stare. Maybe I did read some of the Ketch issues after all?
Purple,
I think you can binge watch Seasons 2 and 3 now on Netflix or else Hulu. I forget which.
Damon,
It's possible. The fact is they eventually gave the Penance stare to Johnny...some time in the 90s maybe? I dunno.
Sorry to hear that Purple.
I'd offer you mind but I think there's no piracy policy on this site.
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...no Agents of Shield on Canadian Netflix 'may' be a blessing in disguise really. With all the upcoming Marvel Shows on Netflix (DD3, JJ2, Defenders, Luke Cage, Iron Fist......) and all the other excellent non-Marvel Netflix shows, I think I'll just wiki the plot points for Agents of Shield and save myself the boredom that I would most likely experience with that show. I don't know what it is. The entire cast bores me to bits.
Really? Cause I really dig Mac. Daisy is alright but I can see how it might annoy people. But really to me, the show is Mac, some Coulson, a little Daisy (a good bit of May when she's fighting) and the rest.
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Really? Cause I really dig Mac. Daisy is alright but I can see how it might annoy people. But really to me, the show is Mac, some Coulson, a little Daisy (a good bit of May when she's fighting) and the rest.
In my case yes, really, because at this point the cast of this show (which is no longer Netflix worthy it seems) must compete for my attention with brilliant casts such as those in Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Marco Polo, Stranger Things, Suits and probably another half dozen I'm forgetting.
Purple,
Marco Polo?! Really?
Suits is alright but I'm not much for lawyers. Stranger Things is on my list to binge watch after Luke Cage.
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Suits is alright but I'm not much for lawyers. Stranger Things is on my list to binge watch after Luke Cage.
Suits has Gina Torres.
And some other people, I guess, but I don't even care. Gina Torres!
As for Agents of SHIELD, I kind of liked that season ending (particularly all the fakeouts / bait-n-switches as to who the 'big death' was going to be). I'm interested to see where they go next, now that they seem to be pulling away from the heavy Inhuman focus.
Set,
I think the reason is mostly because Inhumans aren't on the Phase Three Agenda. Now they might be on Phase Four but no clue when that would be.
So now we're focusing on 'mystical' stuff.
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I'm glad to see Coulson not being director. He never seemed suited for the job, and Fury essentially appointing him Director never made any sense. It would be like taking the manager of a Wal-Mart in a mid-sized town and making them the CEO of the entire company.
Norman,
Yeah him being director was a bit of a downer but I think it was necessary to keep not just S.H.I.E.L.D. afloat but also give the show/series a boost after such a twist and downer time before Winter Soldier. I still think May is the new Director. Unless for some reason they put Glenn in charge... Cause that would SUCK!!!
Purple,
I don't feel much like repenting today. Maybe tomorrow?
Personally, I would totally prefer them going back to the season 1 formula. 'normal' agents taking care of the villains that slip through the cracks of the Avengers. The heavy inhuman influenced really drug the show down for me. 1) I never liked the inhumans as characters or even concepts... 2) I absolutely HATE Daisy. She was Ok in season 1. I liked the computer hacker who was in over her head... I HATE the Mary Sue superpowered awesome SHIELD agent who is better then everyone and has her own squad and smack talks the director just because... she's HER.
Possibly my least favorite character in the MCU right now. Coulson as Director was a logical good move... but it wasn't a FUN move. Coulson on the other hand... is one of my FAVORITE characters in the MCU, and making him director 1) removes him from the active combat too much and 2) forces extra secrets and responsibilities. He's not longer the guy who'll break the rules to save his team... He's now the guy who has to send his team on suicide missions for the greater good...
Not Fun.
With Daisy off the team and Coulson in the field... I have high hopes for the next season. Even if it is my least favorite Ghost Rider.
Phantom,
I agree that Reyes isn't my favorite Ghost Rider, but I have strong hopes for this season.
When it was just Skye as a random person I was unenthusiastic. Now that's she Daisy Freaking Johnson? Pretty rad to me. Coulson back in the field and out from behind the desk is also a good thing.
As for the Inhumans...I always found them interesting compared to say mutants. Mostly because they formed under SPECIFIC circumstances rather than just randomly appearing and disappearing. So while I get having the Inhumans does turn up the power level, it's not as much as having a groundswell of mutants suddenly appearing.
What will happen in this season? Not sure but I think the Avengers are more dealing with cosmic threats than S.H.I.E.L.D. Especially now that they're probably going to start having more mystical stuff.