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Regardless, I think it's safe to assume however she's injuring herself, Ghost Rider/Robbie will pick up some of the slack.

Hell he's already got Ghost Touch down! ;)


Interesting episode today. Curious what is behind the Watchdogs, could be more Hydra (despite the big clean up) or could be some new group (god I hope it's a new group).

Was actually worried about May for a minute there but Geniuses pull through. In fact Geniuses pull through the whole episode really.

No Flame out this week but next week......Next Week looks like it's gonna get messy.

Nice "Oh Damn" moment with our racist senator and her brother.


Grey,

My guess is somehow the Senator and her allies are the ones pulling the strings. I honestly don't think it's HYDRA. It MIGHT be Secret Empire or someone else with a grudge against both Inhumans AND possibly connections to Doctor Strange (but that last bit I admit might be a stretch).

I was a little dissappointed they didn't use more "magic" but I'm certainly looking forward to more S.H.I.E.L.D. interactions with Robbie.

What does bug me slightly is the fact Mace isn't a war hero or something. Just a guy with a good rep that apparently is also Inhuman.

But oh well.

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That was decent....

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I'm liking this Ghost Rider more and more. It seems like they took Robbie Reyes and the car, but gave him a heavy dose of Blaze - especially the selling his soul part. If they follow this pattern with the new comic, and do away with the cheesy "evil uncle soul", I may just start collecting the book again.

Maybe the senator's brother died during his transformation and so never emerged from his rock cocoon? Maybe that's why she's pissed.

I loved seeing Fitz, Mack, and Coulson kicking ass and taking names. Sad to see the way Yo-Yo's friends turned on her.

Huzzah for SHIELD being back in an official capacity!


So many interesting things going on this season.


Well I liked the evil uncle soul thing if only because it toned downed the power set Ghost Rider usually has.

My guess is he did sort of sell his soul, but not to Mephisto. Probably more likely to the Darkhold aka Cthon. Which would make him powerful but not as powerful as other Riders. Maybe.

Her brother probably did get stuck in transformation but it's unclear whether it was because he was Inhuman...or he got exposed to that other kind of Terrigen gas.

Dragon,

There are interesting things, but realistically, I want to see more Darkhold. :)

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Dragon78 wrote:
So many interesting things going on this season.

Indeed. For all its faults, I do enjoy this show.

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No one wondering if there is a Nightmare connection now that we know the people touched by the ghosts are killed by fear in a waking dream?

Regarding the senator's brother - wasn't there someone from Hydra that got petrified by the Kree artifact?


Belabras,

Maybe but it's been a while since we looked into that season.

Also Nightmare MIGHT be a connection, but there's nothing to say it wasn't more Darkhold induced either.


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"Did two flaming dudes just fall into a warehouse full of fireworks?"
"Yeah, really should have seen that coming"


That was one of the best lines tonight, no question, Grey.

That and just seeing Ghost Rider fight Hellfire was pretty great. I did hope for a Penance Stare though...

Best of all: DARKHOLD IN THE HOUSE!!!


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Very smooth introduction of the Rider's flaming chain.


Damon,

I knew it was coming and I still loved it. :)

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That was a nice episode...

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I'm really enjoying this Ghost Rider. He's a vast improvment over the Robbie Reyes as introduced in the comics. Loved the part with the chain.

Fitz and Simmons - shacking up together! Woot!

Also, Simmons pulling the gun out of her purse and going all agent-mode in the apartment! Badass!

I'm loving the Mack and Coulson partnership. Those two really click.

Coulson introducing himself to the uncle in an official SHIELD capacity was nice. I wonder if that means we'll get to see him show up in some of the future Marvel movies again.

Next week looks to be more Darkhold action. Sounds fun. With that book coming along, maybe they'll bring in Dracula (or other vampires). That could be really interesting. Myabe not for this season, but in the future.

The show continues to be fun.


Another great episode, starting to like this version of Ghostrider.

Yes Greylurker, I really liked that line as well.

I would like to see not just vampires, but supernatural creatures in general.


is it just me or can you imagine Coulson just completely geeking out on meeting Dracula.

"Sure he's going to kill us all but...It's Dracula. How cool is that"


Grey,

Maybe but I think if they do, they need to bring in Blade too. Because it wouldn't be a vampire hunter theme team up without him.

I think what I like about Robbie's character in the show versus his comic book one, he's...darker maybe? I dunno. The comics had him being more of a punk. In this one, he's more confident and bad ass. Plus you know feeling the weight of his powers more.

The chain moment is a high point in this episode if not this season.

What I'm wondering is how powerful is the Darkhold. I mean it's varied from writer to writer, but it's not something you just leave lying around.


I am liking Robbie here. He feels like kind of a mix of the different Ghost Riders. You can see a good dose of Blaze in there and a bit of Danny and of course the comicbook Robbie. Really feels like the actor is drawing on a lot of the comic book mythos to make the character his own. He's doing a great job so far.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
What I'm wondering is how powerful is the Darkhold. I mean it's varied from writer to writer, but it's not something you just leave lying around.

I think it's considered one of the most powerful mystical tomes in the Marvel Universe, the evil counterpart to the Book of the Vishanti.


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Greylurker wrote:

is it just me or can you imagine Coulson just completely geeking out on meeting Dracula.

"Sure he's going to kill us all but...It's Dracula. How cool is that"

Read David Weber's novel Out of the Dark for quite a different take. Weber's not called "The Mad Wizard" for nothing. ;-)


Aber,

I know it's considered that, but still doesn't quite give a strong power range, like you know Hulk versus Captain America strength, or Wolverine's healing factor versus Deadpool.

Grey,

Now that you mention it I do see a little bit of Ketch in his performance. Not sure about Johnny yet.

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The only really significant feat I remember about the Darkhold is that it was responsible for the creation of vampires, in ancient Atlantis, IIRC, and, much later, a single spell recited from it destroyed every vampire on the planet. That's pretty buff.

It also could release Chthon from his bindings, or cause his power to manifest in another, or catalyze power in another, or place another under his control (such as often happened to Modred the Mystic).


I think I remember the Darkhold magiced up Morbius the Living Vampire at one point. Added a bunch of new abilities to him like being able to disconnect all the bones in his body so that he could squeeze through small spaces.

and it turned Blade into this Monster Eating juggernaught that would gain the powers of every monster he killed

and there was a Dwarf...a creepy evil Dwarf. Don't remember what he had to do with it all but I remember the Dwarf


Grey,

The Darkhold Dwarf is kind of the physical guide book for the Darkhold. At least, that's how it always seemed to me. Like that paperclip from Microsoft Word.

Set,

I knew about that (didn't know that about what Grey mentioned) but I was thinking anything that might I dunno, blow up a planet perhaps? End life as we know? Just saying.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I knew about that (didn't know that about what Grey mentioned) but I was thinking anything that might I dunno, blow up a planet perhaps? End life as we know? Just saying.

Releasing Chthon, who's an elder god with Chthulu-ish qualities, could qualify as ending life as we know it.

Creating vampires, who can create more vampires without restriction, could also serve as a sort of slow-bake end-of-the-world.

"Apocalypse? You're soaking in it."

After Hive, I'm kind of hoping that this season doesn't tap the 'threat to all life on earth' well yet again. It gets old. And begs the question, if the world is being on the brink of annihilation two to three times a year, between Agents of SHIELD and whatever movies are out this year, how did the planet survive the many millions of years before we left the trees? Were their dinosaur Sorcerers Supreme? Protozoan Avengers? Meh. We shouldn't need a plural for apocalypse.


Set,

But Apocalypse has been plural a while. I mean there were his kids and the Clan after all.

Also I wouldn't mind a higher threat stake since, honestly? Hive's plan while good...didn't feel like a global level extinction event. Ultron's? Yes.

I just think if you have something that powerful, it should do more than glow in the dark and look evil.


Don't forget that it's impossible to destroy. the best they were able to do was disassemble the pages and scatter them around to try to slow down the evil.

Also, anyone who reads a page forfeits their soul. I believe they also tried to tie in the Werewolf by Night family curse to the book... so pretty much all the evil supernatural monsters are somehow connected to that thing...

As for this episode? Isn't anyone gonna mention the street race between the Hell Charger and Lola???

"I get his car now right? Isn't that how these things work?"

ROFL!!

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phantom1592 wrote:
I believe they also tried to tie in the Werewolf by Night family curse to the book...

Indeed. If I recall correctly, one of Jack Russell's (Werewolf by Night) ancestors is the one who bound the Darkhold in it's current form. In turn, the power of the book triggered the werewolf curse lurking in his family line.


In any case I just keep hoping they show the book as more than just a placeholder which is starting to feel like.

I mean look at the trouble Ash had in season 1 with his evil book!


So...is it weird I kept expecting the Darkhold cover to not actually READ Darkhold in such big letters?

Also apparently it didn't break reality yet.

Finally, can ghost not use the Darkhold in the comics? I can't remember.

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That was ok. It was a very fast-paced episode, with some good action sequences. I enjoyed most of it.

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I loved the parts with Robbie. This version of him is definitely firing on all cylinders. Really well done. Ijust wish he'd use the Pennace Stare instead of burning alive scumbags, but that works. I epsecially enjoyed the team-up between he and Mack. They make a good pairing.

Daisy (as hot of a chick as she is), with her lone-wolf crap, is basically becoming a joke to me. One thing I like so far about this season is that they're focusing less on her.

Loved the parts with May and Coulson. The energy shield he used was pretty cool - reminded me of the one they had Steve Rogers use for awhile. And the banter back and forth about their death experiences was interesting.

I liked how the Darkhold was showing itself in different languages. Very interesting. And I loved the hommage to Johnny Blaze in the basement where it was found. Very nice.


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Daisy is still running on guilt and someone needs to slap it out of her. Unfortunately our therapist is dead....someone call Doc Sampson

I do get where she is coming from though. The main issue here is that she won't tell anyone about it, she's just letting it eat away at here and make her self-destructivly stupid. She dosen't want to be near the team because in her heart she feels she has already betrayed them once and she might do it again


Robbie definitely has moved up on the scale of good things about this show. Seeing both May and Coulson team up like that made for great TV.

Daisy, however, needs to find a way to work this out.

I still don't get though what the deal is with the Watchdogs, if the Darkhold can actually alter reality or not.

But I agree, I liked the nod to Johnny Blaze. Maybe it might be more than that. I mean they never SAID who's house it was where the Darkhold was found.


So far I have really been enjoying this season. But then I have enjoyed all the others as well.

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I do find myself wondering if "Darkhold" on the cover was for the reader, and if everyone sees it in their first language in universe...


It might be Matthew.

I mean it already proved that it can read minds. There's no conceivable limit that I'm aware of.


Aberzombie wrote:

That was ok. It was a very fast-paced episode, with some good action sequences. I enjoyed most of it.

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I kind of like not using the penance stare... I think Marvel in general has really dropped the ball with their Ghost Riders. (Actually I think they dropped it... then kicked into a truck and then off a cliff... ;) )

I really liked when Ketch came around was a completely different Ghost Rider then Blaze. Blaze was possessed by Zarathos and shot hellfire and created motorcycles out of fire.... Ketch had the penance stare and the chain. Each were iconic in their own way.

Now?? Ever since they rebooted GR with Blaze... they just made GR generic. Johnny now had the chain and spikes and stare and basically the same design as Ketch... and it's been passed down. Now ALL the GRs seem to use the stare and chain and it's a little boring. Apparently whether you are possessed by a demon... an angel... an angry ghost... They all give the same powers!! sigh...

Now, I hate Reyes in the comic (possibly because of the art... ) But the AoS one is REALLY growing on me. I REALLY don't want to see too MUCHY of Reyes though. I want to see Ghost Rider!!! This one pushed the envelop a bit on how much he can control the spirit and just fight as Robbie. I want him to be unique from the other super powered inhumans running around. Not just a dude with a chain... but full flame head ;D

2) I Hate Daisy... I really do. There's just something about watching kick all kinds of butt that bugs me. She just... shouldn't be THAT good. She hasn't had enough training! I'm not sure May herself could get out of the situations that Daisy gets in.... but if just a few weeks or months of training with her turns computer nerd into special forces ninja commando... when are Jemma and Fitz getting that training? They've been around longer.

3) What was the Johnny Blaze Homage?? I think I looked away for that!!


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I'm not too fond of most characters on the show but Skye is the one that really makes me want to punch the character and writers in the face.
There was part of one season where she wasn't too bad but now she's back to being terrible again.

What the show does very well is story presentation and progress.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:

I'm not too fond of most characters on the show but Skye is the one that really makes me want to punch the character and writers in the face.

There was part of one season where she wasn't too bad but now she's back to being terrible again.

What the show does very well is story presentation and progress.

yeah I think she is suppose to be the most dynamic character and yet she keeps making the same mistakes. or finding different ways of making the same mistakes. Its ok ill watch this season for ghost rider alone. now he just needs someone worth fighting.

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phantom1592 wrote:
2) I Hate Daisy... I really do. There's just something about watching kick all kinds of butt that bugs me. She just... shouldn't be THAT good. She hasn't had enough training! I'm not sure May herself could get out of the situations that Daisy gets in.... but if just a few weeks or months of training with her turns computer nerd into special forces ninja commando... when are Jemma and Fitz getting that training? They've been around longer.

Several things here:

1. She had several months at least of field agent training. Almost exclusively from May personally. When she had nobody else to train. She got badass between seasons 1 and 2, remember. She's also had quite a bit of experience utilizing those skills since then.

2. Those were not particularly tough guys. They were random thugs in prison with little training in fighting as a team, so they came at her in ones and twos mostly. Plus...she lost that fight. Badly. And would've died if she wasn't rescued.

3. Uh...Fitz and Jemma have, in fact, gotten pretty badass. Neither are nearly as good as Daisy at the martial arts...but both are extraordinarily dangerous when pushed. And not just with scientific stuff, neither's any slouch in a fight these days either.

As for why they lack martial arts skills, they never received full field agent training, while Daisy did. All the field agents, and only the field agents, have demonstrated that skill set. Coulson's an excellent martial artist himself, for example.
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I personally find her death wish kind of annoying, too, but it's not bad writing. It's good writing. She started off this season in a self-destructive death spiral, including literally telling Ghost Rider to kill her because she deserved it. Getting over that kind of thing is not a quick or easy process and should not be portrayed as such, so having done it, they'd probably better stick with it for a while.


Of course personally if ghost rider said I was good I would say I'm good he would know. clearly she doesn't read his comics. (tongue and cheek^^^^)


Deadmanwalking wrote:

Several things here:

1. She had several months at least of field agent training. Almost exclusively from May personally. When she had nobody else to train. She got badass between seasons 1 and 2, remember. She's also had quite a bit of experience utilizing those skills since then.

2. Those were not particularly tough guys. They were random thugs in prison with little training in fighting as a team, so they came at her in ones and twos mostly. Plus...she lost that fight. Badly. And would've died if she wasn't rescued. .

If this had been Netfix Daredevil... He would have crawled away broken and bleeding... and people would be praising the 'realism'.

Now, I'm not ever in favor of realism... but to got from level 1 rookie to... whatever she is now... is pretty annoying to me. She's getting Captain America/Black Widow level fight scenes. It's just... too much for me.

If they wanted to give her some standard agent butt kicking ability that's fine. But with just a couple months between season 1 and 2 should put her at 'Not a liability to the team' level and not 'Who needs a team' level. Especially when she's holding back her powers. Powers of course can make an average fighter better... but she's a bit too much.

Didn't Jemma and Fitz get Field training status about that same time too? I seem to remember something about them constantly ending up in the field when there were only 5-6 people on the team that got them upgraded... Especially when Jemma was infiltrating Hydra back in the day..

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phantom1592 wrote:


I kind of like not using the penance stare... I think Marvel in general has really dropped the ball with their Ghost Riders. (Actually I think they dropped it... then kicked into a truck and then off a cliff... ;) )

I really liked when Ketch came around was a completely different Ghost Rider then Blaze. Blaze was possessed by Zarathos and shot hellfire and created motorcycles out of fire.... Ketch had the penance stare and the chain. Each were iconic in their own way.

Now?? Ever since they rebooted GR with Blaze... they just made GR generic. Johnny now had the chain and spikes and stare and basically the same design as Ketch... and it's been passed down. Now ALL the GRs seem to use the stare and chain and it's a little boring. Apparently whether you are possessed by a demon... an angel... an angry ghost... They all give the same powers!! sigh...

Now, I hate Reyes in the comic (possibly because of the art... ) But the AoS one is REALLY growing on me. I REALLY don't want to see too MUCHY of Reyes though. I want to see Ghost Rider!!! This one pushed the envelop a bit on how much he can control the spirit and just fight as Robbie. I want him to be unique from the other super powered inhumans running around. Not just a dude with a chain... but full flame head ;D

Good points. I have to agree.

phantom1592 wrote:
2) I Hate Daisy... I really do. There's just something about watching kick all kinds of butt that bugs me. She just... shouldn't be THAT good. She hasn't had enough training! I'm not sure May herself could get out of the situations that Daisy gets in.... but if just a few weeks or months of training with her turns computer nerd into special forces ninja commando... when are Jemma and Fitz getting that training? They've been around longer.

It's like you read my mind....

phantom1592 wrote:
3) What was the Johnny Blaze Homage?? I think I looked away for that!!

It was a Quentin Carnival poster on the wall of the basement where they found the Darkhold - complete with the image of a motorcycle rider.


All I know is the Darkhold better start opening up portals to things best left unseen in a Lovecraftian way or I'm going to be annoyed that it's not like leveled s#*~ by now.

Robbie's Ghost Rider is cool. But I do agree the comic version of him was a tad...annoying.

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See, I thought Ketch was really annoying. Robbie might not be the best Ghost Rider, but I liked him better than the 90s one we had.

I'm really enjoying the take they have on Agents of Shield. It is a good opportunity to shed some the Eli stuff from the comic (not to mention the strong tie to Daisy's dad that isn't really going to work here). So far I haven't been disappointed.


Belabras wrote:

See, I thought Ketch was really annoying. Robbie might not be the best Ghost Rider, but I liked him better than the 90s one we had.

Ketch had his good times and bad. Ketch himself was kind of boring... but his ghost rider has pretty much become the standard. When he first showed up and teamed with Blaze, it was all about the 'mystery' of who and what he was. His irresistible urge to fight evil... but not knowing why. The fact that both GR and the host were distinctly different people (something that the original series flip flopped on a lot too...)

That mystery went way too long and got old. Every time sales started to slump... they trotted out more 'clues' to the spirit of Vengence in a multipart story. The end result was pretty lackluster with the amulet of power thing, then it got worse with the Noble kale stuff.

To be fair it took just as long for readers to find out about Johnny Blaze... (Zarathos wasn't mentioned till around #77 while Noble Kale shows up around #77 of ketch's series....) but the additions all kind of sucked. Now they have angels and stuff tossed in there and the whole Ghost Rider Mythos is a mess. They seemed to tighten it up a bit... but now we have Reyes with similar powers but without any of the demon/angel/amulet connections and just possessed by an ordinary ghost??

Again, I think it was probably the artwork that turned me off the most of Robbie...and the car instead of a bike... but AoS version is definitely growing on me.


The car wasn't the problem. I will agree the art was hit or miss at times, Phantom.

Bel, I'm also kind of glad they jettisoned the whole Uncle Eli is a Satanist. (At least SO far.)

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phantom1592 wrote:
... but AoS version is definitely growing on me.

Indeed. And I hope they carry this version of Ghost Rider over into the new comic series starting next month. What's more, I think I wouldn't mind seeing this TV version show up on the big screen. Maybe depending on who they got to write and direct, and who the villain would be.


Aber,

They should TOTALLY get a new Blackheart and Mephisto as villains.


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Mephisto is a bit out of their weight class.

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