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Imbicatus wrote:Not until the season after B5 had them.Krensky wrote:Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.Star Trek has bathrooms. We even got sonic shower scenes in various series.
Actually, the first appearance of the sonic shower was in Star Trek: TMP in 1979. The movie was horrible, but it had bathrooms.

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Sorry, the single best line in Babylon 5 goes to Vir: "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this [smiles and waves his fingers at Morden]."
What makes this line even better is when the above actually happens. Vir is shocked shrugs then waves.

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Hama wrote:Ok, slowly warming up to the show. Slowly.Stick with it.
Ok. Definitely getting better. Not regretting that I started watching it.

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Ajaxis wrote:Sorry, the single best line in Babylon 5 goes to Vir: "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this [smiles and waves his fingers at Morden]."What makes this line even better is when the above actually happens. Vir is shocked shrugs then waves.
That, and when he leaves after saying it Mr. Morden the first time, he waves at him again, just like he said he would. For a guy who comes across as pretty spineless when introduced, Vir was damn cool as the first person to openly despise Morden (aside from Kosh, of course).
And I love the exchange they had later.
"Anything I can do to help, Vir?"
"Short of dying...No, can't think of a thing."

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Big B5 fan (I watched them as they originally aired before TNT got the show), so I'm glad to see Hama both watching and warming up to the show.
The characters all have some pretty good quotes, but for me two stick out more than the others: one by Marcus Cole (he doesn't appear until Season 3), which is: "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
The other comes from a character that appears during Season Two, in perhaps my favorite episode of that season (and the entire series, for that matter, though Season Three's "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place" comes a very close second), "Comes the Inquisitor." And that quote is, "No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame--for one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see. I have been in service to the Vorlons for centuries, waiting for you: Diogenes and his lamp looking for an honest man willing to die for all the wrong reasons."

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BATHROOMS....IN....SPAAAAACCCCEEE!!!!
"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."
Also, thanks to replicators, space-poop just gets recycled into Rak'tagino and Heart of Targ anyway.
As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...

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"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."
Funny story from back when I worked for the Navy - contractor I know had once served on a sub. One time, he tells us he woke up to use the head, not remembering they were not supposed to be using the system at the time. So he flushes and the back pressure sprays s+#$ and piss all over him.
As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...
I think that's what a lot of people are accepting. They've already made mention of LMDs in the first Avengers movie, so it seems they exist in the movieverse.

Grey Lensman |
Set wrote:"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."Funny story from back when I worked for the Navy - contractor I know had once served on a sub. One time, he tells us he woke up to use the head, not remembering they were not supposed to be using the system at the time. So he flushes and the back pressure sprays s&%& and piss all over him.
Not quite as bad as the German Captain who sank his sub by flushing....

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As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...
I remember a couple of scenes last year with Koenig definitely upset at the lost of a brother, and expressing strong desires to severly injure Ward.

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I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU
Sure, it's true that Stark first mentioned them in Marvel's The Avengers, but I think that was more of an Easter egg for fans than anything else. They could have used LMDs to easily explain Coulson still being alive (either that the one Loki killed was an LMD or the one on the show is) rather than cook up that whole deal with Project T.A.H.I.T.I.

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I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU
Sure, it's true that Stark first mentioned them in Marvel's The Avengers, but I think that was more of an Easter egg for fans than anything else. They could have used LMDs to easily explain Coulson still being alive (either that the one Loki killed was an LMD or the one on the show is) rather than cook up that whole deal with Project T.A.H.I.T.I.
I spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.
Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.
Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.

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Blayde MacRonan wrote:I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCUI spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.
Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.
Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.
They should really have the remaining Koenig brothers in a B story that guest stars their uncle/grandfather scientist/engineer, who was head of a still-classified S.H.I.E.L.D. project. No need to mention the project by name (let fans speculate). They could bring him in to science-y exposition on some Inhuman macguffin of the week.
Just be sure to get this guy to play him.

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phantom1592 wrote:Blayde MacRonan wrote:I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCUI spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.
Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.
Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.
They should really have the remaining Koenig brothers in a B story that guest stars their uncle/grandfather scientist/engineer, who was head of a still-classified S.H.I.E.L.D. project. No need to mention the project by name (let fans speculate). They could bring him in to science-y exposition on some Inhuman macguffin of the week.
Just be sure to get this guy to play him.
moves Ambrosia Slaad to the List of People to Never Eat During the Zombiepocalypse

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So what did you think?
I got hit with a thought while watching it.
** spoiler omitted **
"Mainly because Joss Whedon likes to crap on characters that fans like, that he is not excited about. Killing Coulson probably won't be enough, he also has to destroy his legacy."
Joss Whedon doesn't crap on chars fans like that he doesn't, he kills of people to break our hearts >.>

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pres man wrote:So what did you think?
I got hit with a thought while watching it.
** spoiler omitted **
"Mainly because Joss Whedon likes to crap on characters that fans like, that he is not excited about. Killing Coulson probably won't be enough, he also has to destroy his legacy."
Joss Whedon doesn't crap on chars fans like that he doesn't, he kills of people to break our hearts >.>
stands on street corner with foil wrapped around head, holding a sign that says this very thing

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It was a strong premiere
Things I liked:
Coulson's grumpy cat mug
Good set up of adversaries for the season, with Lash (maybe foreshadowing the main faction of Marvel Inhumans) and the new anti-alien agency
Daisy's control of her powers
Bobbi's sciencing
Fitz (who I think continues to be the strongest actor on the show) and the fall-out of Simmon's disappearance.
And...I can't really list anything I actively disliked :)

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that monster in the hospital was badass... kinda reminded me of blackheart... funny enough, the wiki description of blackheart states that "Mephisto and Blackheart once tormented Daredevil, Brandy Ash, the genetically engineered Number Nine, and the Inhumans Gorgon, Karnak, and Ahura, manipulating their emotions and tricking them. "

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Where was the Thor 2 plug?
I caught the Ant-Man one, even though I haven't seen it yet, and they mentioned Sochovia several times, but I missed Thor.
I liked that Coulson has that fire axe hung on his wall though.
And I wonder what's up with his new arm? It just seems like a normal, non-robotic prosthetic. Except it glows.

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Where was the Thor 2 plug?
I caught the Ant-Man one, even though I haven't seen it yet, and they mentioned Sochovia several times, but I missed Thor.
I liked that Coulson has that fire axe hung on his wall though.
And I wonder what's up with his new arm? It just seems like a normal, non-robotic prosthetic. Except it glows.
In the presidential address, The president mentioned the incidents in New York and London as alien attacks, with the London attack I assume being a reference to the end climax of Thor 2
I kind of wonder if Simmons is on Svartalfheim...kind of has a similar blasted appearance to that world.

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Finally watched this last night. Some thoughts....
I caught Coulson's Grumpy Cat mug, but missed the fire axe on the wall. May warrant another look.
The monster in the hospital has indeed been confirmed as Lash. Per Wikipedia....
He is supervillain and Inhuman, who played a key role after the release of the Terrigen Mists around the globe at the conclusion of the "Infinity" storyline.
and
Lash has energy conversion abilities which enable him to absorb energy and manipulate energy. According to Soule "Let's say someone's running at him — that's kinetic energy. Lash can change all of that into heat — and whoosh! — the other guy goes up in flames."
Concerning the monolith and Simmons location - they've said in season 2 that the Monolith is supposedly an ancient Kree weapon against Inhumans. That could just be myth and legend obscuring the truth. Or, mayhap the world it transported Simmons to is actually some kind of prison world with discarded Kree genetic experiments.
The real question, the one everyone seems to be ignoring, is WHY did it grab Simmons? It doesn't just react to living people, or else it would have grabbed Fitz as well. Does it feed off positive emotions? Simmons was, presumably, happy when it got her, as Fitz had just asked her out and she had accepted. Or was it because of the scientific equipment she had? Is the monolith some kind of high tech nano-particle computer, interpreting the equipment as hostile tech and defending itself?
Who knows? But it looks like we'll find out some answers next episode.
Lastly, I'm looking forward to Ward fully embracing his douchebaggery and becoming leader of Hydra. He'll make an interesting adversary.