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Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.

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Krensky wrote:
Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.

Star Trek has bathrooms. We even got sonic shower scenes in various series.

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Imbicatus wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.
Star Trek has bathrooms. We even got sonic shower scenes in various series.

Not until the season after B5 had them.

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Hama wrote:
Ok, slowly warming up to the show. Slowly.

Stick with it.


Marvel's Agents of Babylon 5

Liberty's Edge

DC did those.

Scarab Sages

Krensky wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.
Star Trek has bathrooms. We even got sonic shower scenes in various series.
Not until the season after B5 had them.

BATHROOMS....IN....SPAAAAACCCCEEE!!!!

Scarab Sages

Krensky wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Plus, unlike Star Trek, B5 has bathrooms.
Star Trek has bathrooms. We even got sonic shower scenes in various series.
Not until the season after B5 had them.

Actually, the first appearance of the sonic shower was in Star Trek: TMP in 1979. The movie was horrible, but it had bathrooms.

Scarab Sages

Imbicatus wrote:

The movie was horrible, but it had bathrooms.

IN SPAAAAAAAAACCCE!!

Liberty's Edge

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Ajaxis wrote:
Sorry, the single best line in Babylon 5 goes to Vir: "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this [smiles and waves his fingers at Morden]."

What makes this line even better is when the above actually happens. Vir is shocked shrugs then waves.

Sovereign Court

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Cosmo wrote:
Hama wrote:
Ok, slowly warming up to the show. Slowly.
Stick with it.

Ok. Definitely getting better. Not regretting that I started watching it.


memorax wrote:
Ajaxis wrote:
Sorry, the single best line in Babylon 5 goes to Vir: "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this [smiles and waves his fingers at Morden]."

What makes this line even better is when the above actually happens. Vir is shocked shrugs then waves.

That, and when he leaves after saying it Mr. Morden the first time, he waves at him again, just like he said he would. For a guy who comes across as pretty spineless when introduced, Vir was damn cool as the first person to openly despise Morden (aside from Kosh, of course).

And I love the exchange they had later.

"Anything I can do to help, Vir?"

"Short of dying...No, can't think of a thing."

Silver Crusade

Big B5 fan (I watched them as they originally aired before TNT got the show), so I'm glad to see Hama both watching and warming up to the show.

The characters all have some pretty good quotes, but for me two stick out more than the others: one by Marcus Cole (he doesn't appear until Season 3), which is: "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

The other comes from a character that appears during Season Two, in perhaps my favorite episode of that season (and the entire series, for that matter, though Season Three's "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place" comes a very close second), "Comes the Inquisitor." And that quote is, "No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame--for one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see. I have been in service to the Vorlons for centuries, waiting for you: Diogenes and his lamp looking for an honest man willing to die for all the wrong reasons."

Dark Archive

Aberzombie wrote:
BATHROOMS....IN....SPAAAAACCCCEEE!!!!

"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."

Also, thanks to replicators, space-poop just gets recycled into Rak'tagino and Heart of Targ anyway.

As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...

Scarab Sages

Set wrote:
"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."

Funny story from back when I worked for the Navy - contractor I know had once served on a sub. One time, he tells us he woke up to use the head, not remembering they were not supposed to be using the system at the time. So he flushes and the back pressure sprays s+#$ and piss all over him.

Set wrote:

As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...

I think that's what a lot of people are accepting. They've already made mention of LMDs in the first Avengers movie, so it seems they exist in the movieverse.


Aberzombie wrote:
Set wrote:
"Due to a tragically poorly timed flushing of the waste pipes into space, Ensign Redshirt just had every organ in his body sucked out his colon..."

Funny story from back when I worked for the Navy - contractor I know had once served on a sub. One time, he tells us he woke up to use the head, not remembering they were not supposed to be using the system at the time. So he flushes and the back pressure sprays s&%& and piss all over him.

Not quite as bad as the German Captain who sank his sub by flushing....


Set wrote:


As for Agents of SHIELD, I'm still wondering if Koenig and his undetermined number of identical 'twin' brothers are LMDs. They sure didn't lose any sleep over the one that What's-His-Face killed...

I remember a couple of scenes last year with Koenig definitely upset at the lost of a brother, and expressing strong desires to severly injure Ward.

Silver Crusade

I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU

Sure, it's true that Stark first mentioned them in Marvel's The Avengers, but I think that was more of an Easter egg for fans than anything else. They could have used LMDs to easily explain Coulson still being alive (either that the one Loki killed was an LMD or the one on the show is) rather than cook up that whole deal with Project T.A.H.I.T.I.


Blayde MacRonan wrote:

I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU

Sure, it's true that Stark first mentioned them in Marvel's The Avengers, but I think that was more of an Easter egg for fans than anything else. They could have used LMDs to easily explain Coulson still being alive (either that the one Loki killed was an LMD or the one on the show is) rather than cook up that whole deal with Project T.A.H.I.T.I.

I spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.

Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.

Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.


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phantom1592 wrote:
Blayde MacRonan wrote:
I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU

I spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.

Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.

Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.

They should really have the remaining Koenig brothers in a B story that guest stars their uncle/grandfather scientist/engineer, who was head of a still-classified S.H.I.E.L.D. project. No need to mention the project by name (let fans speculate). They could bring him in to science-y exposition on some Inhuman macguffin of the week.

Just be sure to get this guy to play him.

Scarab Sages

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
Blayde MacRonan wrote:
I think that the Koenigs are a)fully human, and b) at least triplets ("at least" only because there may yet be more of them). That's because I don't think that Life Model Decoys are really a thing in the MCU

I spent most of the first season just assuming that this Coulson was an LMD... Honestly the TAHITI thing was a bit of a disappointment. Though I do Love a live Coulson... So I'm generally torn.

Regardless, they couldn't have used LMD AND kept a grand mystery. They just don't work together.

Personally, I'm leaning toward either LMD (preferred) or Clone for Koenig. For an organization so rife with corruption... Each Koenig seems entrusted the MOST secret of secret things with no real concern for their loyalty...I think that means something.

They should really have the remaining Koenig brothers in a B story that guest stars their uncle/grandfather scientist/engineer, who was head of a still-classified S.H.I.E.L.D. project. No need to mention the project by name (let fans speculate). They could bring him in to science-y exposition on some Inhuman macguffin of the week.

Just be sure to get this guy to play him.

moves Ambrosia Slaad to the List of People to Never Eat During the Zombiepocalypse


pres man wrote:

So what did you think?

I got hit with a thought while watching it.

** spoiler omitted **

"Mainly because Joss Whedon likes to crap on characters that fans like, that he is not excited about. Killing Coulson probably won't be enough, he also has to destroy his legacy."

Joss Whedon doesn't crap on chars fans like that he doesn't, he kills of people to break our hearts >.>

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Haven't seen S03E01 yet,but the trailer looks unusually special effects heavy.


Is it back on?

Silver Crusade

Rynjin wrote:
Is it back on?

As of last night...


Neato. I can catch it on Hulu tonight then.


Great episode and set up for the season in general.


openly weeps


MRomanova wrote:
pres man wrote:

So what did you think?

I got hit with a thought while watching it.

** spoiler omitted **

"Mainly because Joss Whedon likes to crap on characters that fans like, that he is not excited about. Killing Coulson probably won't be enough, he also has to destroy his legacy."

Joss Whedon doesn't crap on chars fans like that he doesn't, he kills of people to break our hearts >.>

stands on street corner with foil wrapped around head, holding a sign that says this very thing

Sovereign Court

Last night episode was great I thought; I've given up trying to figure out who the new characters are. The new organization featured in last night's episode seems created for the show, but that org would be a 'shoe in' for the upcoming Civil War cape hunt...


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It was a strong premiere

Things I liked:

Coulson's grumpy cat mug

Good set up of adversaries for the season, with Lash (maybe foreshadowing the main faction of Marvel Inhumans) and the new anti-alien agency

Daisy's control of her powers

Bobbi's sciencing

Fitz (who I think continues to be the strongest actor on the show) and the fall-out of Simmon's disappearance.

And...I can't really list anything I actively disliked :)

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Thought it was a very good season opener. I had wondered if the new group was going to be SWORD, but still wonder if it will eventually morph into SWORD, with their focus on anti-alien threats.

Sovereign Court

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that monster in the hospital was badass... kinda reminded me of blackheart... funny enough, the wiki description of blackheart states that "Mephisto and Blackheart once tormented Daredevil, Brandy Ash, the genetically engineered Number Nine, and the Inhumans Gorgon, Karnak, and Ahura, manipulating their emotions and tricking them. "

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I thought from what I'd read that the monster was supposed to be Lash - but I have no idea who that is and haven't yet looked him up.

Sovereign Court

I want it to be Blackheart. Doc Strange is Coming!


I think Lash was confirmed as the identity. IIRC he is even kind of doing what the comic book version was doing.


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Really, really good premiere. This show has left behind its rocky start and never looked back, thankfully.

MMCJawa wrote:
Fitz (who I think continues to be the strongest actor on the show)

I cannot agree more with this.

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Fitz is amazing. The rest is cool. Loved the episode. Wanted it to be longer.

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I also liked the continuity plugs when they mentioned events from Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, and Thor 2 (though more indirectly on that one).


Where was the Thor 2 plug?

I caught the Ant-Man one, even though I haven't seen it yet, and they mentioned Sochovia several times, but I missed Thor.

I liked that Coulson has that fire axe hung on his wall though.

And I wonder what's up with his new arm? It just seems like a normal, non-robotic prosthetic. Except it glows.

Sovereign Court

There was an ant-man plug?


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They mentioned something about how Fitz briefly looked into a theory about Simmons being shrunk to sub-atomic size after "The incident at/with Pym" or something similar.

Liberty's Edge

I'm left wondering:

Spoiler:
Where Simmons is and if she's going to meet a particular set of a+%$!!+s.


I am glad I am not the only one who thought he looked like Blackheart. Speaking of Blackheart I hope we get to see him in a movie one day.


Besides the Ghost Rider movie you mean?


Rynjin wrote:

Where was the Thor 2 plug?

I caught the Ant-Man one, even though I haven't seen it yet, and they mentioned Sochovia several times, but I missed Thor.

I liked that Coulson has that fire axe hung on his wall though.

And I wonder what's up with his new arm? It just seems like a normal, non-robotic prosthetic. Except it glows.

In the presidential address, The president mentioned the incidents in New York and London as alien attacks, with the London attack I assume being a reference to the end climax of Thor 2

I kind of wonder if Simmons is on Svartalfheim...kind of has a similar blasted appearance to that world.


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That wasn't Blackheart, that was a pale imitation;)

Scarab Sages

Finally watched this last night. Some thoughts....

Spoiler:
I agree with the above expressed sentiment that Fitz is one of the strongest characters on the show. The actor is brilliant.

I caught Coulson's Grumpy Cat mug, but missed the fire axe on the wall. May warrant another look.

The monster in the hospital has indeed been confirmed as Lash. Per Wikipedia....

He is supervillain and Inhuman, who played a key role after the release of the Terrigen Mists around the globe at the conclusion of the "Infinity" storyline.

and

Lash has energy conversion abilities which enable him to absorb energy and manipulate energy. According to Soule "Let's say someone's running at him — that's kinetic energy. Lash can change all of that into heat — and whoosh! — the other guy goes up in flames."

Concerning the monolith and Simmons location - they've said in season 2 that the Monolith is supposedly an ancient Kree weapon against Inhumans. That could just be myth and legend obscuring the truth. Or, mayhap the world it transported Simmons to is actually some kind of prison world with discarded Kree genetic experiments.

The real question, the one everyone seems to be ignoring, is WHY did it grab Simmons? It doesn't just react to living people, or else it would have grabbed Fitz as well. Does it feed off positive emotions? Simmons was, presumably, happy when it got her, as Fitz had just asked her out and she had accepted. Or was it because of the scientific equipment she had? Is the monolith some kind of high tech nano-particle computer, interpreting the equipment as hostile tech and defending itself?

Who knows? But it looks like we'll find out some answers next episode.

Lastly, I'm looking forward to Ward fully embracing his douchebaggery and becoming leader of Hydra. He'll make an interesting adversary.

Sovereign Court

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Spoiler:
I wonder if they were showing Jupiter in that last shot with Simmons... if so, we're possibly looking at Titan (where Thanos is from) and the plot moving towards the Eternals?


Maybe the planet is home to enemies of the Kree.

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