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The alignment restriction on the Barbarian is stupid.
I'd allow a Barbarian/Paladin, just as I'd allow a Barbarian/Monk.
Another option is making a Sacred Servant (Paladin archetype) of Ragathiel and take the Rage Sub-Domain.
It grants you the ability to Rage like a Barbarian when you reach level 8. I'd say that also works with the concept.
The alignment restriction on the Barbarian is stupid.
I'd allow a Barbarian/Paladin, just as I'd allow a Barbarian/Monk.
Another option is making a Sacred Servant (Paladin archetype) of Ragathiel and take the Rage Sub-Domain.
It grants you the ability to Rage like a Barbarian when you reach level 8. I'd say that also works with the concept.
Paladin / Ranger (Wild Stalker). Wild Stalker gets Rage at 4th level in place of hunter's bond, and trades out favored enemies for rage powers.
The alignment restriction on the Barbarian is stupid.
I'd allow a Barbarian/Paladin, just as I'd allow a Barbarian/Monk.
Another option is making a Sacred Servant (Paladin archetype) of Ragathiel and take the Rage Sub-Domain.
It grants you the ability to Rage like a Barbarian when you reach level 8. I'd say that also works with the concept.
Seconded.
The only RAW way is playing mythic. There is a power that eliminates your alignment.
Besides the rage subdomain or wild stalker there is the viking fighter archetype.
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Another option is making a Sacred Servant (Paladin archetype) of Ragathiel and take the Rage Sub-Domain.
It grants you the ability to Rage like a Barbarian when you reach level 8. I'd say that also works with the concept.
And this is why the alignment restriction on the Barbarian is stupid - if a LG deity grants the rage domain, why should Rage (as a barbarian) require a Chaotic alignment?
Wild Stalker and Viking archetypes are also good ideas. Unfortunately, all these workarounds are about adding Rage to a Paladin, while the OP's aim was to add Divine Grace to a Barbarian.
I'm fairly certain Samson was a barb/pally.
... just sayin.
could also go barb/cavalier and basically do the same thing--without having to worry about being a fall-magnet for any wayward DM's fetishes.
And this is why the alignment restriction on the Barbarian is stupid - if a LG deity grants the rage domain, why should Rage (as a barbarian) require a Chaotic alignment?
Because Ragathiel is pretty much the god of having "a chip on your shoulder." He is a god with a devil as a parent, and he carries alot of the baggage that a tiefling paladin might carry. His rage seems more like a detriment to his alignment than an result of it. Fatal flaws and all.
I'm fairly certain Samson was a barb/pally.
... just sayin.
Not to cause any problems, but Samson is hardly the example of 'paladin' type behavior. Setting up unfair challenges, murdering 30 innocent Philistines to supply the prize he promised in said challenge, setting animals on fire in order to burn the Philistine crops, killing everyone who (rightfully) came to make him pay for the fatal fires, relations out of wedlock, and just plain general genocide is hardly LG behavior.
Admittedly, half of that stuff is what makes an epic barbarian, but still, just because God is on your side does not mean you are LG or a 'knight in shining armor' paladin. That example helps codify why I am against this multiclass: the Lawful in LG here refers to a self discipline that allows you to temper your desires for the greater good.
And this will affect the Barb-Pal ... how? Going into a Rage prevents some actions, but in no way does it represent a total loss of control. He won't attack something he doesn't intend to, or attack random things. He can use total defense. He can use Combat Expertise. He can retreat.
Furthermore, you can easily reflavor the Rage into other things, like a combat focus, or even a charge of divine energy that fuels your body ... more good reasons why alignment restrictions are BS.
Sure just read Oath of Swords and the follow on books for an example.
Anyway to make a barbarian paladin??????
Depends, by RAW? Nope! You can however get rage and even rage powers through other class features such as rage domain or anger inquisition.(sacred servant allows you to nab either as a straight paladin). Anti paladin gets divine grace by another name.
You can also just house rule away the restrictions from one or the other and the game won't break and the world won't end. Possibly having the discussion about it over something sweet, such as cake.
I'm fairly certain Samson was a barb/pally.
... just sayin.
Not to cause any problems, but Samson is hardly the example of 'paladin' type behavior. Setting up unfair challenges, murdering 30 innocent Philistines to supply the prize he promised in said challenge, setting animals on fire in order to burn the Philistine crops, killing everyone who (rightfully) came to make him pay for the fatal fires, relations out of wedlock, and just plain general genocide is hardly LG behavior.
Admittedly, half of that stuff is what makes an epic barbarian, but still, just because God is on your side does not mean you are LG or a 'knight in shining armor' paladin. That example helps codify why I am against this multiclass: the Lawful in LG here refers to a self discipline that allows you to temper your desires for the greater good.
I was half-joking. I forget the necessity of smileys or something online sometimes. I'm more than aware that Samson was far from Lawful. But i don't love the Lawful requirement of the class.
From a purely conceptual standpoint, i can see Samson playing the role of the Hand of God filled with Righteous Fury. Rage? Check. Smite? Check. Divine Grace? I can see it in there. It's really just the lawful component he lacks. And if i adhere to the idea that Paladins are the best set of mechanics to play the role of the Hand of God, then Samson could, in fact, fit the bill.
I'd say its more than God simply being on your side.... I'd say that he grants you the power to overcome what you couldn't on your own... and that's where Smite, DG, divine spells and all the other Pally goodies come in.
Anyway to make a barbarian paladin??????
Take the BEYOND MORALITY mythic universal path ability. Requires you to be a tier 3 character though.
Two levels of monk, martial artist, will gross you +3 on all saves.