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Seriously take it somewhere else
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I dislike it when people can't take a hint
Also Friends, that show sucked!
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Blossom however was awesome!
I deleted my last post in light of bringing this thread back on topic.
I shun people who dislike when people can't take a hint.
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Captain Yesterday, considering your usually cheerful outlook, you hate a surprising number of things.
I think I'm done actually with the things I hate :-)
Now on to s!~* I like :-)
Burn Notice was awesome, reminded me of the cool detective show of yesteryear like Magnum P.I. and Simon and Simon
Sons of Anarchy, reminds me of my wife's biker family, but not in any way I'd like to explore further :-D
Pirates of the Caribbean, even the fourth, tho it was pretty weak
I'm too cheap to go to a movie unless it's at the budget cinema, but in my defense we have an awesome budget cinema at a third the cost, I just gotta wait an extra four months to see it :-)
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Blossom however was awesome!
Shun shun shun!
I'm too cheap to go to a movie unless it's at the budget cinema, but in my defense we have an awesome budget cinema at a third the cost, I just gotta wait an extra four months to see it :-)
They closed down the budget theater near my hometown because of crime.
*facepalm*
It appears that a thread for people to post things that others will shun is not the appropriate place to shun people.
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Confession: The discussion of DPR makes me sleepy.
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Confession: this is exactly why I have the love-hate relationship with players who want to play nonstandard races; they care more about the mechanics and I want to look at sociopolitical ramifications.
Funny, I like playing nonstandard races because of the social issues. (well that is hardly the only reason, but one I consider very important and fun, and the most disappointing when ignored) Course, my idea of nonstandard is focused around nonhumanoid.
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People who write a backstory for their brand new, 1st level, 0 XP characters that level 20 / mythic 10 characters would be hard-pressed to duplicate.
No, your 0-level character didn't cut the One Ring off of Sauron's hand / slam the gate shut on Rovagug's prison / be the vital part of Asmodeus' plan to overthrow Lucifer. You grew up on a farm.
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So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
I shun people who dislike when people can't take a hint.
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I try to take hints, but sometimes they sneak past me. A lot of times actually.
So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
You know, I just had someone trying to get me to optimize my character.
As I said then, I don't need an optimized character, not even in high lethality games.
I try to take hints, but sometimes they sneak past me. A lot of times actually.I shun people who dislike when people can't take a hint.
:p
Hints have a high racial bonus to stealth. It ain't your fault.
Apparently we posted at the exact same time. Every time I refresh this page, it alternates which of our two posts appears first. :)
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Sometimes one has to be blunt. People are adults. If they can't take criticism of any kind. Then they need to grow personalities to match their adult bodies. I'm not a fan of the new social aspect where one has to talk to a adult like a child because their feelings might be hurt. Too bad. Once one turns 21 I'm not treating anyone like a child.
I dislike Social Justice Warriors. If it's not trying to push a cause heavy handedly. It's giving reasons for people not to improve themselves. The whole Fat Shaming Debacle. I'm overweight. I wish people would have been on my case. I could be going into my 40s with less health problems. Thankfully not many yet it could have been avoided. What SJW don't get is that their not doing overweight people any favors. As one gets older their health will become poorer. It's not a matter of debate or opinion. It's medical fact. Bodies simply can't keep up carrying the excess weight and function at 100%. One wants to be overweight and free to be go right ahead. Just as long as my tax money does not go toward paying the medical bills and their will be.
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People tend to equate talking to grown ups in a blunt manner with being rude. Blunt and rude often sound the same to a lot of people, especially if they don't know you well or catch certain clues in the conversation.
This isn't treating people like children; rather, it's treating people in a manner that you'd like to be treated. If you like being talked to in an abrupt manner, then you may enjoy blunt talk. Many people don't, however -- it isn't the criticism they mind, it is the manner in which it is provided.
"Hey, you might wanna think about losing some weight. My mother died from being overweight because of <reasons here>" comes across a lot better than "Bob, you are a fat f*#$. Get your lazy butt up and do something before you die."
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So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
I'm with you. I very rarely go above 16. In my 12 PFS characters I have only once gone as high as 18.
I think of 14, 14, 14, 13, 12, 10 (before racial adjustments) as the perfect stat array.
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People tend to equate talking to grown ups in a blunt manner with being rude. Blunt and rude often sound the same to a lot of people, especially if they don't know you well or catch certain clues in the conversation.
This isn't treating people like children; rather, it's treating people in a manner that you'd like to be treated. If you like being talked to in an abrupt manner, then you may enjoy blunt talk. Many people don't, however -- it isn't the criticism they mind, it is the manner in which it is provided.
"Hey, you might wanna think about losing some weight. My mother died from being overweight because of <reasons here>" comes across a lot better than "Bob, you are a fat f*#$. Get your lazy butt up and do something before you die."
And unless you're my parent or spouse, when I say, "Thanks for the input, but I'm fine with my body and my health," I dang well expect the conversation to be dropped. And if you can't, then you probably won't be invited to my shindigs anymore.
Now, let's go get a beer. :)
So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
I like to aim for max primary stat at level one, that way I can use my 4 level increases to take feats. Of course, I play 5e where stats max at 20 and feats are awesome.
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People tend to equate talking to grown ups in a blunt manner with being rude. Blunt and rude often sound the same to a lot of people, especially if they don't know you well or catch certain clues in the conversation.
This isn't treating people like children; rather, it's treating people in a manner that you'd like to be treated. If you like being talked to in an abrupt manner, then you may enjoy blunt talk. Many people don't, however -- it isn't the criticism they mind, it is the manner in which it is provided.
"Hey, you might wanna think about losing some weight. My mother died from being overweight because of <reasons here>" comes across a lot better than "Bob, you are a fat f*#$. Get your lazy butt up and do something before you die."
And unless you're my parent or spouse, when I say, "Thanks for the input, but I'm fine with my body and my health," I dang well expect the conversation to be dropped. And if you can't, then you probably won't be invited to my shindigs anymore.
Now, let's go get a beer. :)
Exactly. Family usually gets special dispensation to be "truthful", while acquaintances or whatnot who speak to people in that manner tend to receive negative responses: profanity, violence, an offer to leave, etc.
My Oracle for Iron Gods has a charisma of 14, and a dwarf, one of my most entertaining characters I've made :-)
I like to aim for max primary stat at level one, that way I can use my 4 level increases to take feats. Of course, I play 5e where stats max at 20 and feats are awesome.So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
Oh, don't get me wrong. It's perfectly fine to do that. It's just something that I don't typically do.
However, I was shunned for it. I was told, literally, "I'm sorry - but I can't think of any class where that [not having an 18 at level 1] would be a good idea even if you don't dump stat. Even the most MAD classes should have a post-racial 18 with a 25pt buy. The lack of dump-statting just prevents a 2nd 18."
I like to aim for max primary stat at level one, that way I can use my 4 level increases to take feats. Of course, I play 5e where stats max at 20 and feats are awesome.So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
Oh, don't get me wrong. It's perfectly fine to do that. It's just something that I don't typically do.
However, I was shunned for it. I was told, literally, "I'm sorry - but I can't think of any class where that [not having an 18 at level 1] would be a good idea even if you don't dump stat. Even the most MAD classes should have a post-racial 18 with a 25pt buy. The lack of dump-statting just prevents a 2nd 18."
So, if we are talking pathfinder here, they thought that being plus one behind in your primary stat was such a crippling move that the character would not be playable?
We are talking about pathfinder, and I really don't know.
the obsession with having "the right" ability scores, drives me crazy. In one of my games, your ability score bonuses will not be what decides if you "win" or "lose"
Which is nice for that game, but for most it definitely IS, especially at low levels where a single missed swing (or extra hit one by the enemy) can be the death of you.
Stats are necessary for making spells work on enemies, not work on yourself, qualifying for Feats, and doing pretty much everything else the game requires.
I once at a convention game had a couple players get literally angry with my "poor" choices at chargen, one of them left the game before even starting, the other eventually forgave me after I saved his sorry bleeding out butt from dying cause I actualy had a point in heal (which he claimed was useless because of healing magic)
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People who write a backstory for their brand new, 1st level, 0 XP characters that level 20 / mythic 10 characters would be hard-pressed to duplicate.
No, your 0-level character didn't cut the One Ring off of Sauron's hand / slam the gate shut on Rovagug's prison / be the vital part of Asmodeus' plan to overthrow Lucifer. You grew up on a farm.
This is one of the reasons that I despise starting at 1st level!
Starting at 4th gives you plenty of room for history, and you can start as a grizzled veteran as credibly as you can a farm boy. It's hard to play a grizzled vet with 0 XPs.
There are so many characters to play in 'idea space'; why should I only be allowed to play farm boys?
When played from 1st, farm boys are still little more than that in RP terms even at 20th level, because your character can level up every day in some campaigns.
Anyway, at 4th level the WBL is enough to get some minor stuff that is cool, without being unbalancing.
Exactly. Family usually gets special dispensation to be "truthful", while acquaintances or whatnot who speak to people in that manner tend to receive negative responses: profanity, violence, an offer to leave, etc.People tend to equate talking to grown ups in a blunt manner with being rude. Blunt and rude often sound the same to a lot of people, especially if they don't know you well or catch certain clues in the conversation.
This isn't treating people like children; rather, it's treating people in a manner that you'd like to be treated. If you like being talked to in an abrupt manner, then you may enjoy blunt talk. Many people don't, however -- it isn't the criticism they mind, it is the manner in which it is provided.
"Hey, you might wanna think about losing some weight. My mother died from being overweight because of <reasons here>" comes across a lot better than "Bob, you are a fat f*#$. Get your lazy butt up and do something before you die."
And unless you're my parent or spouse, when I say, "Thanks for the input, but I'm fine with my body and my health," I dang well expect the conversation to be dropped. And if you can't, then you probably won't be invited to my shindigs anymore.
Now, let's go get a beer. :)
What bothers me the most is that people will constantly advocate for laws to be created where only social shunning is necessary.
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So, um... I apparently have a confession that will get me shunned, because I was shunned for it just today here on these boards:
I am perfectly fine and regularly create characters with a maximum starting ability score (after racial adjustments) of 16 or 17, even with a 25 point buy. I don't feel like I need an 18 or higher at level 1 to make an effective character.
I'm with you. I very rarely go above 16. In my 12 PFS characters I have only once gone as high as 18.
I think of 14, 14, 14, 13, 12, 10 (before racial adjustments) as the perfect stat array.
I've only had two PFS characters. The first had pre-racial stats (highest to lowest) of 17, 16, 13, 12, 7, 7.
My last character had 18, 18, 8, 7, 7, 7.
I hate point buy.
People who write a backstory for their brand new, 1st level, 0 XP characters that level 20 / mythic 10 characters would be hard-pressed to duplicate.
No, your 0-level character didn't cut the One Ring off of Sauron's hand / slam the gate shut on Rovagug's prison / be the vital part of Asmodeus' plan to overthrow Lucifer. You grew up on a farm.
This is one of the reasons that I despise starting at 1st level!
Starting at 4th gives you plenty of room for history, and you can start as a grizzled veteran as credibly as you can a farm boy. It's hard to play a grizzled vet with 0 XPs.
There are so many characters to play in 'idea space'; why should I only be allowed to play farm boys?
When played from 1st, farm boys are still little more than that in RP terms even at 20th level, because your character can level up every day in some campaigns.
Anyway, at 4th level the WBL is enough to get some minor stuff that is cool, without being unbalancing.
It was fairly challenging for me to come up with a "grizzled vet" backstory for one of my first level characters. I ended up having him simply being stuck at a desk job his whole career, always getting passed up for promotion, and always passing off his own work to his subordinates as a way to explain why this middle aged military man doesn't have any XP.
It was a bit dissatisfying.
the obsession with having "the right" ability scores, drives me crazy. In one of my games, your ability score bonuses will not be what decides if you "win" or "lose"
Totally with you. I started hiding the player's ability scores from one another. Its kind of funny/sad how many problems it solves. If someone has average stats, but someone else has good stats, the average stat person whines. If someone has good stats, but someone has amazing stats, the good stats person whines.
When no one knows each other's stats, they all seem to mysteriously be okay with their own stats. Something tells me there is a connection.
I once at a convention game had a couple players get literally angry with my "poor" choices at chargen, one of them left the game before even starting, the other eventually forgave me after I saved his sorry bleeding out butt from dying cause I actualy had a point in heal (which he claimed was useless because of healing magic)
I've seen players with a similar mentality. It seems to stem from a competitive mindset when it comes to TTRPGS, which doesn't interest me in the least. When I've had these players in a group of mine, there's a sort of detox period in which they realize that optimized vrs. unoptimized isn't nearly as important in my games as it is in other's games.
This is one of the reasons that I despise starting at 1st level!
I don't understand why people try to warp the game requirements to the character's backstory. It seems that you should write a backstory with full knowledge of the game - if the game starts at level one, your character shouldn't be a grizzled vet.
If the only backstory that you can think of that fits a level one characters is farmboy, I'd say you're lacking creativity.
I wish there was a Sticky somewhere on the forum that gave a list of the various phrases such as "MAD" and "SAD" and others plus their meaning. I've only really been reading the forums frequently for a few days and it confuses me.
I like making characters with low Int because I find them fun to play.
I love the new Unchained rage mechanics. And the new stance rage powers are awesome.