
Riuk |

thegreenteagamer wrote:I don't believe in God:-)Aranna" wrote:I am a born again ChristianAs a Christian myself, I knew there were a lot of denominations and such, but I was unaware that we had a subgroup that specifically wasn't born again to where that particular adjective was necessary to point out. It's a bit of a pleonasm, like ATM Machine - the M in ATM implies the machine and renders its mention unnecessary.
*grin*
Sorry. Couldn't help myself. Glad to see a sister of the faith. I totally get where you're coming from. I have some LBGT buddies, and there's stuff I don't want or need to know either.
Edit - I did know what you meant, by the way - the phraseology indicates you're a member of the faith in more than the "if an elephant is born in a tree it's a bird" context. I'm just a smart @$$.
lust stop this now before it gets angry ok everyone do you please...ok?

thegreenteagamer |

Hey now I deleted mine just now thank you :-)
Then your Quakership is of the elephant-in-tree variety? Cause I'm pretty sure that'd be a major component of those folks.
Don't worry, I know the cap'n was just trolling earlier.
Honestly, I don't know why I'd get offended at that kind of expression anyway. An expression of a lack of belief is not a denial of fact, merely a diverging opinion.
It's when people state something as fact or fallacy that people start to get angry.

thejeff |
Aranna" wrote:I am a born again ChristianAs a Christian myself, I knew there were a lot of denominations and such, but I was unaware that we had a subgroup that specifically wasn't born again to where that particular adjective was necessary to point out. It's a bit of a pleonasm, like ATM Machine - the M in ATM implies the machine and renders its mention unnecessary.
*grin*
Sorry. Couldn't help myself. Glad to see a sister of the faith. I totally get where you're coming from. I have some LBGT buddies, and there's stuff I don't want or need to know either.
Edit - I did know what you meant, by the way - the phraseology indicates you're a member of the faith in more than the "if an elephant is born in a tree it's a bird" context. I'm just a smart @$$.
No, the "born again" usage really is specific to some strands of Evangelicals and Fundamentalists. Catholics, for example, use the term, but use it to refer to baptism and likely wouldn't identify as such.
I'd actually guess, without looking at numbers, that it's a smaller group within Christianity that would refer to themselves as "born again" than wouldn't. And it's far more of a sectarian usage than a reference to level of commitment or anything, which is what I get from your "elephant born in a tree" thing.

thegreenteagamer |

Actually my analogy was sort of for anyone who identifies their faith because it's all they know, were raised in, rather than having discovered that it's wholly what you believe.
I do realize there's a subset of Christianity that uses the phrase more than others. In the circles I've run it's sort of a slang for "100% sure you're not going to hell."
Even the word Evangelical doesn't really have a concrete definition. There's a few denominations and church groups that claim it, but it's really just a modern slang for American Protestant. Literally it means "of or pertaining to the Christian religion", which, uh, kinda means Evangelical Christians are calling themselves Christian Christians.
Sorry for the derail. Pleonasms amuse me, and the nuances behind naming is funny. Did you know Catholic literally means Universal? Pretty funny when you think that until pretty recently, i forget when, like a generation or so ago, they said even Christians who were not Catholic were going to hell, too.

captain yesterday |

He's not referring to Horton Hatches an Egg:-(
Well lucky me, my Quaker-ness is based on my parents, also I grew up for a time in an all Quaker community surrounded by an all Amish community, I don't put a lot of thought into religion, just try to live my life as best I can, every now and then the wife or kids wanna go to church, and really Quakers are the best!

thejeff |
Actually my analogy was sort of for anyone who identifies their faith because it's all they know, were raised in, rather than having discovered that it's wholly what you believe.
I do realize there's a subset of Christianity that uses the phrase more than others. In the circles I've run it's sort of a slang for "100% sure you're not going to hell."
Even the word Evangelical doesn't really have a concrete definition. There's a few denominations and church groups that claim it, but it's really just a modern slang for American Protestant. Literally it means "of or pertaining to the Christian religion", which, uh, kinda means Evangelical Christians are calling themselves Christian Christians.
Sorry for the derail. Pleonasms amuse me, and the nuances behind naming is funny. Did you know Catholic literally means Universal? Pretty funny when you think that until pretty recently, i forget when, like a generation or so ago, they said even Christians who were not Catholic were going to hell, too.
They are amusing, but don't read too much into them. Words, and even more so names, mean what they're used to mean, not what their roots mean.
But born again really is more of a theological difference than how I think you're reading it. As I suggested Catholics use the term for baptism, not the kind of conversion experience it's usually used for by those who refer to themselves as born again. Even among Protestants not all make the distinction you're drawing. Nor is Evangelical synonymous with American Protestant. Religion is complicated.
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I think I have a bunch of these:
- I think descriptive text is important, and shouldn't simply be changed on a whim.
- I don't think mechanics are sacrosanct. If they don't fulfill the purpose, change them.
- Exact balance between the player characters is not important to me - some will be better/worse for give situations. If worse a lot, the GM should provide them with some boon to raise them up.
- I think younger players and players that started on 3.x have a much different play style than gamers that started earlier.
- While I think everyone is entitled to play the game in whatever way they'd like, I think the way I'm used to playing is superior.

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thejeff wrote:Rynjin wrote:I'd file that under "obvious joke".thejeff wrote:Almost every time I see it mentioned it's for petty stuff or tongue in cheek drive-by insults ("Trigger Warning: This a*%+%$! <Insert politician you hate>").Are you really seeing demands for trigger warnings over trivial stuff that frequently? Other than as obvious jokes, anyway.
As I said earlier, I tend to see them for what you suggest as legitimate uses and not for the petty stuff. Which may be why I approve of them and you think they're a problem.
The website Everyday Feminism uses trigger warnings for just about everything. However:
Everyday Feminism wrote:Editors Note: Like this phenomenal article, Everyday Feminism definitely believes in giving people a heads up about material that might provoke our reader's trauma. However, we use the phrase "content warning" instead of "trigger warning," as the word "trigger" relies on and evokes violent weapon imagery. This could be retraumatizing for folks who have suffered military, police, and other forms of violence. So, while warnings are so necessary and the points in this article are right on, we strongly encourage the term "content warning" instead of "trigger warning".
[Note that following article is linked from another website]
Content Warning: This article discusses triggering in detail and mentions common topics of triggering (sexual assault, anxiety, health anxiety, depression, death, non-specific fears and phobias).
I'll try to add a link here but I'm on a tablet so I'm not sure how well it will work.
So we've reached the point where trigger warnings are triggering.
We've reached an "offended singularity".
Can this go away now?

captain yesterday |

I have a contrary streak in me, if a bunch of people like something I won't, just because everyone else does, I'm especially resistant to peer pressure, it has the opposite effect, in the plus side tho I've never seen Titanic or Avatar, never did anything harder than weed and got the f&*! our of the s&$*ty little town I spent my teenage years trapped in :-)

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I have a contrary streak in me, if a bunch of people like something I won't, just because everyone else does, I'm especially resistant to peer pressure, it has the opposite effect, in the plus side tho I've never seen Titanic or Avatar, never did anything harder than weed and got the f!%& our of the s~@%ty little town I spent my teenage years trapped in :-)
Everything here describes me as well...except I have seen and enjoyed Avatar. Well...depending on which Avatar you mean.

Riuk |

captain yesterday wrote:I have a contrary streak in me, if a bunch of people like something I won't, just because everyone else does, I'm especially resistant to peer pressure, it has the opposite effect, in the plus side tho I've never seen Titanic or Avatar, never did anything harder than weed and got the f!%& our of the s~@%ty little town I spent my teenage years trapped in :-)Everything here describes me as well...except I have seen and enjoyed Avatar. Well...depending on which Avatar you mean.
ooohhh don't speak of that travesty

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I have a contrary streak in me, if a bunch of people like something I won't, just because everyone else does, I'm especially resistant to peer pressure, it has the opposite effect, in the plus side tho I've never seen Titanic or Avatar, never did anything harder than weed and got the f*!# our of the s+$*ty little town I spent my teenage years trapped in :-)
I've never even done weed -- but then, asthma is a good reason to avoid inhaling anything except fresh air. I experimented with drinks for a brief period; my drink of choice was the gin and tonic. But soon enough I realized I'd rather just have the tonic, and haven't touched alcohol since.
Yes, I enjoy tonic water in and of itself. Thanks, dad!

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captain yesterday wrote:its ok every one hes talking about the cartoon not the live action movie that shamalan f#*+ed upI love Avatar: The Last Airbender, which is f~*@ing epic!
Just thought I should clarify :-)
Actually, I suspect he's talking about the one with the blue aliens.

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captain yesterday wrote:I have a contrary streak in me, if a bunch of people like something I won't, just because everyone else does, I'm especially resistant to peer pressure, it has the opposite effect, in the plus side tho I've never seen Titanic or Avatar, never did anything harder than weed and got the f*!# our of the s+$*ty little town I spent my teenage years trapped in :-)I've never even done weed -- but then, asthma is a good reason to avoid inhaling anything except fresh air. I experimented with drinks for a brief period; my drink of choice was the gin and tonic. But soon enough I realized I'd rather just have the tonic, and haven't touched alcohol since.
Yes, I enjoy tonic water in and of itself. Thanks, dad!
A friend tells me that she's on The Gin & Tonic diet. So far, she's lost three days....

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thegreenteagamer wrote:I actually think Lovecraft was a pretty awful writer. All of the ability to create interesting mythos and world settings that could possibly exist don't make up for a lack of basic readability. Everything I've tried to read by him was unfinishable, and audio books put me to sleep or get tuned out.Audiobooks depend on the reader. A good reader can make a bad book bearable, and a bad reader can make the best books flop.
Jim Dale is a talented reader. Try listening to an audiobook read by him, doesn't even matter which one.
Jim Dale the 'Carry On' actor? Or Jim Dale the Australian actor that dies of a heart attack in every series he's in.

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I expect a person who talks about a rpg or any topic for that matter to have actually done their own research. Your opinion on say 4E or PF means nothing to me if your are basing it off second hand information. Or worse trying to play "I have been in the hobby for X number of years I don't need to inform myself on rpg xyz". You can have been playing 100 years in the hobby and I'm still going to ignore anything one has to say on the topic.
While 4E is no longer my D&D of choice I think it's a decent rpg.
I dislike players who refuse to tell me the truth about missing a session. If your going to tell me at the last minute that your are sick. Then I get a update from Facebook telling me your enjoying the time your spending with friends at a restaurant don't act all surprised if I'm less then impressed. The rest of the players like my time is just as precious as yours.
I don't get players who say for example like combat oriented games. Join a more roleplaying one then are unhappy at the lack of combat. Espcially when warned ahead of time.
I'm willing to accomdate and work with players who have a mental illness or say for example dislike rude language at the table. I'm not going to bend over backwards. Sometimes in the heat of the moment someone will say a swear word. If one is getting the proper medical help for a condition, medication and the support of family. Constantly acting up will not be tolerated at my table. Mental illness or notwithstanding. I had a ex-player who we had to walk on egg shells all the time because anything would set him off. A manic depressive. After a point with medication, proper care and friends trying to support and help him it was him and not the illness. I too have to have fun as well as everyone else at the table.
I sometimes wish we had more devs at Paizo who think outside of the box. The ones we have are not only in the box. They keep taping it shut. So far while I enjoy the material. Nothing really has stood out like the APG imo. Either something is too strong, too weak, too situational. Or worse the fluff does not match the crunch imo. While ignoring feedback when it suits them.
I don't think fluff and crunch need to be exclusive. Why can't we get both of each
Not a fan of the APs. Good reference material yet I find myself too often reworking the npc. Even for a non-optimized group the npcs are too weak imo. Which to me at least defeats the purpose of buying a AP. I'm supposed to save time not spend more time when running it.
Not a fan of Terry Goodkind anymore. Between the bad TV show and the later books. It has made me never want to read him anymore. If it's not the endless dessertations on how love will conquer all. Good will inevitably defeat evil. It's the powerful main character never ever using his powers. It felt like Goodkind simply was not trying to write a good series imo.
I dislike the terms "cheesy", "overpowered", or any similar terms. If one does not like something in the game just says so. To me something has to be proven factual overpowered. Opinion in this case means little to nothing. I one had another person on a forum insist high and low that DR/2 was broken. Compared to what casters can do. Compared to what other abilites other classes have.

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I expect a person who talks about a rpg or any topic for that matter to have actually done their own research. Your opinion on say 4E or PF means nothing to me if your are basing it off second hand information. Or worse trying to play "I have been in the hobby for X number of years I don't need to inform myself on rpg xyz". You can have been playing 100 years in the hobby and I'm still going to ignore anything one has to say on the topic.
You are right and wrong here. I do that a lot, having been around as long as anyone in the business. But having played dozens and dozens of systems with hundreds and hundreds of players, I can tell you that certain things carry over from any system- things that are just universal to RPGs.
So, for example, if I tell you to "Never try to solve a OOC problem IC" - it will work even if I have never heard of that RPG, let along played it.
However, if I tell you that "xxx class is overpowered and needs nerfing" then yes, I needs must have played that class and played WITH that class- in a couple of games. Simply reading it once doesn't really cut it. Watching one guy cream everyone in one session is not proof either.
So, I really dont know more about PF than any of the other experienced posters here. Despite my deep experience, as far as PF game mechanics go, my opinion is worth no more than anyone else's- and less than quite a few. But if you tell me you have a certain problem player- then yes- my 40 years of experience will likely be of value. *
* and if you compare PF to other legacy systems, then I have dropped several ranks in that skill.

thegreenteagamer |
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You are right and wrong here. I do that a lot, having been around as long as anyone in the business.
You have? I don't think you've ever indicated that!
*big, fat, cheesy grin*Sorry, couldn't help myself. For what it's worth, I agree with you. Your experience with RPGs outside of the one being played can, indeed, help with non-system-specific RPG related advice. I'd totally hit someone like you up for table camaraderie advice, or invoking a certain "mood" at the table, or story planning, or numerous other things.

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Confession: I am less and less inclined to support my friendly local and not so local gaming stores. While I understand that the hobby has new focuses and that game systems involving large numbers of painted figures battling is more popular, nevertheless I come there to buy gaming books. If you don't carry gaming books, I won't come there.
Telling me that you can order it for me, in this day and age, is a joke. I can order the books from the comfort of my home, usually for far less than you sell them for. I'm coming there to support your shop and have the items in hand rather than trekking back however much later you get around to ordering, which is also usually later than I could have gotten it.
I don't want to buy thousands of dollars in minis to paint to come play in your tournaments that I have no interest in. I stopped playing Magic: The Gathering in '93 or so. Please, for the love of the gaming Gods, carry some other gaming materials in your shop or take down the signs that say Pathfinder sold here. A book from six months ago and a promotional poster are not stock.
This is why I order online.

knightnday |

knightnday wrote:I stopped playing Magic: The Gathering in '93 or so.You should seriously consider giving the game another shot. It is so much better now than it used to be. I would, in fact, call it the best game in the world.
I might, but my wife will divorce me if I spend money on the cards in addition to all my Pathfinder books. :)