
Simon Legrande |

captain yesterday wrote:I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.

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I also have to admit that after playing Hatsune Miku Project Diva F I binged on vocaloid music. I now have very strong opinions on which vocaloids are the most awesome (the Kagamines, esp Rin), and vocaloid music is now my goto music at work.
And my children mock me mercilessly for it.
An example, in case you don't know what I'm talking about.

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pH unbalanced wrote:An example, in case you don't know what I'm talking about.I also have to admit that after playing Hatsune Miku Project Diva F I binged on vocaloid music. I now have very strong opinions on which vocaloids are the most awesome (the Kagamines, esp Rin), and vocaloid music is now my goto music at work.
And my children mock me mercilessly for it.
I need to pick up that game. I rather enjoy the vocaloid music.

DungeonmasterCal |

Terquem |
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Larry Elmore's Nightly Show is Amazing! ;0
Oh, and I don't understand how a machine can be so desperate for power that it will plug millions of people into pods and make them into batteries, while still able to manufacture tens of thousands of super strong, gravity defying, robotic squids?
I mean, one robot squid on a treadmill has got to be good for at least 500kVA/hours, am I right, am I right?

Tels |

Larry Elmore's Nightly Show is Amazing! ;0
Oh, and I don't understand how a machine can be so desperate for power that it will plug millions of people into pods and make them into batteries, while still able to manufacture tens of thousands of super strong, gravity defying, robotic squids?
I mean, one robot squid on a treadmill has got to be good for at least 500kVA/hours, am I right, am I right?
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, merely changed from one form to another. You have to power the squid somehow, and that energy comes from somewhere. If that squid were to run on a treadmill, it's not like it would generate more energy than what is used to power it.
Honestly, I suspect that the squids use more than just human powered batteries to get energy. For example, with the polluted and cloudy sky, I bet there's tons of lightning strikes that they can harvest for energy.

thejeff |
Terquem wrote:Larry Elmore's Nightly Show is Amazing! ;0
Oh, and I don't understand how a machine can be so desperate for power that it will plug millions of people into pods and make them into batteries, while still able to manufacture tens of thousands of super strong, gravity defying, robotic squids?
I mean, one robot squid on a treadmill has got to be good for at least 500kVA/hours, am I right, am I right?
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, merely changed from one form to another. You have to power the squid somehow, and that energy comes from somewhere. If that squid were to run on a treadmill, it's not like it would generate more energy than what is used to power it.
Honestly, I suspect that the squids use more than just human powered batteries to get energy. For example, with the polluted and cloudy sky, I bet there's tons of lightning strikes that they can harvest for energy.
The whole thing made no sense. You can't get more raw energy out of humans than you put into them in food and other resources. In any practical sense, far, far less.
If they'd said something like "They're using the human brains for processing power the electronics can't quite duplicate" it would have been plausible by hand-wavy SF standards and they could have had exactly the same movies otherwise.

Tequila Sunrise |

DungeonmasterCal wrote:I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.captain yesterday wrote:I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I watched the first Matrix in a religion class, because the professor loves gnosticism. I think I've also been part of philosophical Matrix conversations, but I can't remember any specific themes. What are your favorites?

Simon Legrande |

Simon Legrande wrote:I watched the first Matrix in a religion class, because the professor loves gnosticism. I think I've also been part of philosophical Matrix conversations, but I can't remember any specific themes. What are your favorites?DungeonmasterCal wrote:I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.captain yesterday wrote:I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
It's interesting to see their treatment of the allegory of the cave. Some of the subtext regarding purpose was also interesting, though I never really bought into it.
Edit: I also liked the conversation in the train station at the beginning of the third. Talking about the difference between words and the thoughts they are meant to convey. I'm going to be picking up a book on general semantics in the near future which goes into greater depth on the subject.

Goth Guru |

If memory serves, that was the studio's fault. The original explanation for the matrix was processing power, not electrical power.
That makes more sense!
I liked the first movie more.I liked the cartoon shorts more than the second and third movie.
Explosion the movie would have a helicopter crash into an illegal munitions dump for the main explosion. The main character will be left wondering who was behind things. His father had found out he has an awful fatal disease and crashed the copter, making the audience the only ones who were really happy.

Aranna |

Krensky wrote:If memory serves, that was the studio's fault. The original explanation for the matrix was processing power, not electrical power.That makes more sense!
I liked the first movie more.
I liked the cartoon shorts more than the second and third movie.
Yes that does make more sense... until those idiotic 2nd and 3rd movies where they wipe out all the humans in the matrix.

Tequila Sunrise |

Tequila Sunrise wrote:Simon Legrande wrote:I watched the first Matrix in a religion class, because the professor loves gnosticism. I think I've also been part of philosophical Matrix conversations, but I can't remember any specific themes. What are your favorites?DungeonmasterCal wrote:I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.captain yesterday wrote:I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.It's interesting to see their treatment of the allegory of the cave. Some of the subtext regarding purpose was also interesting, though I never really bought into it.
Edit: I also liked the conversation in the train station at the beginning of the third. Talking about the difference between words and the thoughts they are meant to convey. I'm going to be picking up a book on general semantics in the near future which goes into greater depth on the subject.
...Ah yes, I can see the allegory to the allegory of the cave.
Cave = Matrix
Freed Prisoner = Neo
Reflection of Sun in Water = "Stop trying to hit me, and hit me!" (?) "I'm sorry kiddo, but you're not the One." (?)
The Sun Itself = "The spoon isn't really there." (?) Neo's death, resurrection, and Smith-dive?
Well, I can sort of see it, I guess. What's your take on it?

Tequila Sunrise |

Tels wrote:The only positive aspect of the class is the modular class design, but the mechanics provided are weak at best and awful at worst.I think that the weakest aspect of the class is that it's four largely unrelated classes awkwardly shoved onto the same framework.
Confession: I know nothing about the Vigilante, or what's shun-worthy about liking or not liking it.

Coriat |

Tequila Sunrise wrote:It's just a list of artists across the musical spectrum whose music I don't care for. I do like other artists who are similar to the ones I don't like, but preferences are weird like that.Simon Legrande wrote:In regards to Imagine, it's just a matter of preference for me. I don't like John Lennon for the same reason I don't like Katy Perry, The Mamas and the Poppas, System of a Down, Beyonce, Dave Matthews Band, Chuck Berry or Cannibal Corpse. Sometimes the message has nothing to do with it.Okay, cool. It's all about the melody/tune/whatever for me, so no judgments here. Though I have no idea what all of those artists have in common.
I can't stand the bulk of Lennon either. Cold Turkey is a lonely exception.