That about sums it up.
Mortals don't kill gods, period.
Gods can't die off their own plane, period.
Your plot will inevitably fail.
That about sums it up.
Until his GM decides otherwise. In which case it might work.
Granted. The .gm has all the power.
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Mortals don't kill gods, period.
Gods can't die off their own plane, period.
Your plot will inevitably fail.
i disagree on two points, individual words really,
The word period, and the word inevitablyMore the former than the latter as this plan is unlikely to work without gm say so due to the sheer intelegence of this guy and the fact that he is the one supplying the equipment, but it can happen, at least in 3.5, it was almost easy in 2e if you ever got to these kind of levels, and there are stories throughout the various DnD mithos of people killing gods, it is just never easy, and in pathfinder they don't even have rules for the avatars yet,
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Poor op must've abandoned ship!
Gee, I wonder why? Could it have anything to do with a bunch of people saying how dumb they thought his game was? Because nothing shows that you're a mature gamer like snarking someone for their badwrongfun.
Honestly, the amount of "we take our fantasy seriously" in this thread is crushing in its irony.
Either that or his Mom made him go to bed
Poor op must've abandoned ship!Gee, I wonder why? Could it have anything to do with a bunch of people saying how dumb they thought his game was? Because nothing shows that you're a mature gamer like snarking someone for their badwrongfun.
Honestly, the amount of "we take our fantasy seriously" in this thread is crushing in its irony.
lol sadly you have with the stone cold truth given me my first chuckle today. Cheers.
> sigh< I hope mythic has rules to support deicide so I can be the first to apologize to the op if he hasn't quit the forums.
As an opponent of ppl spouting at others about badwrong fun I should have known better . What started as well meaning if humorous questioning quickly crossed the line. I see that in hind sight.
It's known at this point that Mythic Adventures will not have rules for deicide (unless you count Demigods which fall into the CR 26 to 30 range). Pathfinder is a looooong way off from doing up rules for full-blown deities, if ever.
Since Asmo holds the key to Rovagug's prison, wouldn't killing Asmo be put under the "Bad Idea" file heading by...well...everyone?
Mortals don't kill gods, period.
Gods can't die off their own plane, period.
Your plot will inevitably fail.
i disagree on two points, individual words really,
The word period, and the word inevitably
More the former than the latter as this plan is unlikely to work without gm say so due to the sheer intelligence of this guy and the fact that he is the one supplying the equipment, but it can happen, at least in 3.5, it was almost easy in 2e if you ever got to these kind of levels, and there are stories throughout the various DnD mythos of people killing gods, it is just never easy, and in pathfinder they don't even have rules for the avatars yet,
Pathfinder is not 3.5 or 2nd edition. Different games have different rules. I seem to recall the Devs making a point of not statting up the Pathfinder gods precisely because they want the gods to be unkillable.
No doubt. Just didn't mean to seem so harsh to the op about it but yes it is a huge stretch of the imagination to plot the assassination of asmodeus in pf.
Have you considered hiring Chuck Norris?
His tears are said to cure cancer but he never cries.
Pathfinder is not 3.5 or 2nd edition. Different games have different rules.The rules are secondary to what the people playing the game want to do.
I seem to recall the Devs making a point of not statting up the Pathfinder gods precisely because they want the gods to be unkillable.What the devs want doesn't matter when compared to the fun of the people playing the game. The OP's game was clearly discarding the whole of idea of "unkillable gods," and was posting based on that particular premise. It's fine if people don't agree with that, but posting to try and somehow show that the OP is playing the game wrong not only doesn't help, it violates the forum's most important rule.
I agree, it's up to the GM in this game whether or not they allow the gods in their game to die or not. If going by PF RAW, then obviously there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Asmodeus can be killed off, but if the GM likes the plan that the OP puts forward and the player can pull off some well thought out deviousness along with some lucky rolls, I don't see any reason that their particular game can't have the death of a powerful god.
Right? No one can really tell any of us as gms how it has to be. I gjess that has been covered about as thoroughly as the unfortunate unnecessary op bashing.
OP, you'll have to let us what you decide to do and how it works out for you as I'm now very curious. You know the inquiring minds want to know and all that jazz.
Pathfinder is not 3.5 or 2nd edition. Different games have different rules.The rules are secondary to what the people playing the game want to do.
I seem to recall the Devs making a point of not statting up the Pathfinder gods precisely because they want the gods to be unkillable.What the devs want doesn't matter when compared to the fun of the people playing the game. The OP's game was clearly discarding the whole of idea of "unkillable gods," and was posting based on that particular premise. It's fine if people don't agree with that, but posting to try and somehow show that the OP is playing the game wrong not only doesn't help, it violates the forum's most important rule.
Sure, folks can play the game however they want—it's not like James Jacobs and SKR are going to kick down their front door and take away all their Pathfinder books for playing the game the wrong way. However, unlike with Dungeons and Dragons or some other fantasy games, there is no rules support for god-killing. So, the OP is firmly in house rules/GM fiat territory, so the forum can't really answer his question.
Part of why he hasn't posted a response here in quite some time I'd guess.