Rumal |
Grats on the job, and sorry to hear about no game. That is indeed good and bad news.
Interesting, everything about alchemist extracts reads like Arcane, except the one fact that it does not expressly say "arcane spells"
In many ways, they behave like spells in potion form, and as such their effects can be dispelled by effects like dispel magic using the alchemist's level as the caster level.
....In addition, he receives bonus extracts per day if he has a high Intelligence score, in the same way a wizard receives bonus spells per day.
.....An alchemist can also add formulae to his book just like a wizard adds spells to his spellbook, using the same costs, pages, and time requirements. An alchemist can study a wizard's spellbook to learn any formula that is equivalent to a spell the spellbook contains.
Most of the choice of wording makes them sound like their magic, although internal, and in 'potion' form seems to derive from an Arcane source. Every other spellcasting class mentions whether they cast Arcane or Divine. Alchemist is the only class with spellcasting that does not originate from either of the two sources. I'm curious as to what the general community considers them to be. I've always just assumed it was Arcane by the wording chosen.
EDIT: HERE is a link where James Jacobs mentions that their magic is Arcane, but they don't cast spells so are not Arcane Casters.
Bardy Shrooms |
My phone ate half my post. So here is the abridged version. Gully dwarves are the nuisance race and dubious cousins of the mountain dwarves. The are a most unworldly and simple people who have spent most of their racial history as slaves. Xenophobic and peculiar, they can survive in the most unpleasant places with the most inedible foods.
Bardy is level 5 but I'd obviously drop that down if selected.
So excited! This was the series of books that started my reading addiction many years ago. My kids are reading them now.
Rumal |
Shalafi, I don't think you read or understood what I wrote. I did not say they were arcane because they made potions. In fact I implied that ALTHOUGH their magic was internal and a type of potion, it derives from an Arcane source.
That means that I think it is Arcane DESPITE being a potion.
Did you miss the point where they get extra spells like a wizard, or where they can learn formula from a wizard's spellbook. Lastly, did you also not see the part where James Jacobs himself said they were Arcane, just not arcane CASTERS?
So, what that means is, they are in fact arcanists by the fact that their extract ability is driven by an Arcane power source. They do not qualify as arcane CASTERS for feats or PrC's, but they are arcane nonetheless.
rashly5 |
My minotaur sorcerer can go into melee and bash things! Planning on making him as much of a Gish as a I can but going straight sorcerer which does mean he'll only be effective in melee in low levels.
Though it would be awesome if I could use the Battle Sorcerer variant.
Rumal |
What was there to think about? You implied that I thought their potions had anything to do with them being arcane. I neither said nor inferred any such thing. In fact I agreed that making potions was irrelevant to their power source. All you "gave me to think about" was something I had already discounted. Potions have no bearing on the discussion. The things they share with only Wizards, Witches and Magi are what's relevant, that being extra spells per day as a wizard and learning/scribing spells like a wizard. All four of them do it, all four use Int to cast, all four prepare, and all four are arcane. Regardless of whether they can make potions or not.
Gambit |
Hello all, I apologize for my delay, I was at an SCA event this weekend and as such was out of pocket. First off, thanks for all the understanding and well wishes, I appreciate it.
Secondly, Im not sure what the move/new job will all entail, as such I dont want to give anyone false expectations or hopes. So as far as my involvement is concerned, this is a canceled campaign, with the possible chance of reengaging at some point in the future.
Now Bruhma, if you would like to step up and take over DMing duties, even using my timeline in doing so, I would be more than honored and you have my full blessing. I look forward to seeing how it progresses, and where you decide to take it.
And by Reorx's Beard, take care.
Bardy Shrooms |
Gully dwarf cleric. Backstory and level may need some tweeking as Bardy was originally destined for a different DL campaign.
Hope the gully dwarf race will be OK. I think I negotiated with the other GM what domains were appropriate for Reorx. And there was some racial penalties. But I believe we added an extra con bonus due to the ability to eat pretty much anything and survive.