I don't know which group the Succubi and Incubi belong too, but I like those too. I think they are Medieval Europe monsters, but i'm not sure, could be Jewish or something, as Lilith is.
I think it might have been german as Alps (which is also a creature I'd like to see in PF).
Like you can see on my pinterest page, I want the alps to be part of the Horerczy. A toad like horrer that spits out swarms of butterfly like alps.
I would also like to see Alps.
Not necessarily. The whole Egyptian pantheon is there. There's no reason why other pantheons of gods can't exist as gods in PF.Agreed. But, I get the impression as far as PF goes, the Inner Sea gods, are the only ones. So far other mythological beings end up as something else.Eros/Cupid wouldn't be an angel maybe a unique type of outsider or part of a new group of outsiders.Eros should be a god.
Has there been PF material on other pantheons? I use different gods in my homebrew world and the Bestiaries have a lot different cultures' mythological creatures, but I don't remember anything with the deities.
Has there been PF material on other pantheons? I use different gods in my homebrew world and the Bestiaries have a lot different cultures' mythological creatures, but I don't remember anything with the deities.Not necessarily. The whole Egyptian pantheon is there. There's no reason why other pantheons of gods can't exist as gods in PF.Agreed. But, I get the impression as far as PF goes, the Inner Sea gods, are the only ones. So far other mythological beings end up as something else.Eros/Cupid wouldn't be an angel maybe a unique type of outsider or part of a new group of outsiders.Eros should be a god.
Xavier beat me to the punch there, but you can see, plain as day, the Egyptian deities of real life. Also, tons of other full gods that aren't part of the main 20.
Thanks for the info and the link!
I see that they have several Vudrani deities but I don't remember hearing about them anywhere.
Magnetic Monster
- No sciencefiction monster that wears robot-armor, shoots lasers, can I be anymore clear?
- No monster that can use 10 powers with one among them being Magnetism, the monster needs to focus on Magnetism, and magnetism only.
- Preferable a non humanoid magical beast like creature, can look alien (grick/aboleth), but not sciencefiction-alien, so like above, no robot-features or futuristic stuff attached, also not like a tentacled lovecraft thing.
- It uses magnetism as defense meganism and attack to hunt for prey, it can also feed on metal.
- All its abilities match in with the Metalmaster from D&D, but it has more types of attacks than that creature.
- Not a 18+ CR creature, lower than that is preferable, don't really like powerhouses. CR6 to CR 14 would be cool.
Magnetic Monster
- No sciencefiction monster that wears robot-armor, shoots lasers, can I be anymore clear?
- No monster that can use 10 powers with one among them being Magnetism, the monster needs to focus on Magnetism, and magnetism only.
- Preferable a non humanoid magical beast like creature, can look alien (grick/aboleth), but not sciencefiction-alien, so like above, no robot-features or futuristic stuff attached, also not like a tentacled lovecraft thing.
- It uses magnetism as defense meganism and attack to hunt for prey, it can also feed on metal.
- All its abilities match in with the Metalmaster from D&D, but it has more types of attacks than that creature.
- Not a 18+ CR creature, lower than that is preferable, don't really like powerhouses. CR6 to CR 14 would be cool.
Sounds like a more powerful version of rust monsters to me.
A more powerful version of the rust monster with magnetic powers would be interesting.
More types of genies like ones based on elements like wood, metal, void, etc.
YARA-MA-YHA-WHO
Huh, wasn't familiar with that one. It'd definitely make my Australian campaign easier.
Myth Lord, would you kindly provide links to info about the following monsters, which I am not familiar with? Your versions seem cool, but are most likely inaccurate to the myths, and I want to know about the real versions too before I use them/request them.
Fear Dorcha
Marabbecca
Tsenagahi
Bolotnik
Lagarfljot
Celedon
Helhest
I would really like more Divs. They have some of the coolest designs among the fiends and seem kind of underrated. (The Ghawwas is my favorite.) There's tons of options for them, but the Asdeev, Arzshenk, Fulad-zereh, Aeshma, Bushyasta and Asag should be shoo-ins.
Adam, if you read this, I am going to post an updated version of my list in a couple weeks time, hopefully. I would recommend not adding any thing from my big lists to the archive until I post it, as it will contain everything on those lists with some corrections as well as new material, so waiting till then will probably be easier for you.
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Marabbecca - but I found it on Deviantart on one of the many AB-Z of Mythology art stuff.
Tsenagahi
I don't know how this creature works, but somehow they are related to both the Cliff Ogre and the Blemmyes-like Anaye from Native American mythology, I got this one from the guy who does the A-Book-Of-Creatures, he called it a Wandering Rock Anaye.
Bolotnik
Strangly a rare slavic myth, while not much creatures are linked to quicksand.
Lagarfljot Worm
I'm sure you knew about this one right?
Celedon
There is also a more reliable site with them, but I can't find that site right now.
Helhest
I'm familiar with this creature a long time, but only now I started to like them.
I agree on Div's they are among my favorite monsters of pathfinder, I just love the Ghawwas, Sepid, Shira, Agash and Pairaka, the ones you call especially Arzshenk, Asdeev, Bushyasta and Asag would make great additions. The problem with Asag however, is that I only like my own version of it, if not it's just another gargoyle/balrog-like creature, the others are awesome in myths.
If you can't find the myth on google try Name + Myth, or name + country/land of origins, like Ahuizotl + Myth or Ahuizotl + Aztec. This can be handy, as many myths have names they share with stupid cars, with dogs or with ladies who have the same name.
BTW Aeshma and Bushyasta are the Div of Sloth and Wrath, what are the ones for Pride and Envy? Do you know their names?
Interesting site with many DIv and demons on it
But still no div of pride and vanity... its the only sin that is missing :-(
WHY are there so little creatures about vanity...
Another awesome Div would be Druj Nasu, fly-like female Div that spread corruption and defilment.
Thanks for the links. The Druj has been on my list for a while.
I don't think that there is a Div of pride. Zoroastrianism included similar concepts to the Christian seven deadly sins, and may have been the basis for them. They had demons of "sins" (and assorted other bad things) not included in Christianity though. Divs that have not been mentioned thus far (I think) include:
Akoman-Obsession
Indar-Opression
Nanghait-Heresy
Sarvar-Domination
Tawrich-Destruction
Zarich-Pollution/Destruction of nature
Gannag Menog-The "Stinking Spirit," Div of poor hygiene?
Akatash-Perversion
Anashtih-Strife
Anast-Deception
Apaush and Spenjaghra- Drought
Araska- Vengeance
Ashmogh- Apostasy
Az- Greed
Buht- Idolatry
Diwzhat- Hypocracy
Freptar- Distraction
Jahi- Prostitution
Mitokht- Skepticism
Nang- Dishonor
Nasa- Contamination
Niyaz- Materialism
Pinih- Hoarding
Areshko- Envy
Sij- Destruction (Again)
Sitoj- Heresy
Spazg- Slander
Spuzgar- Negligence
Taromaiti- Scorn
Varun- Unnatural Lust
Aghash- The evil eye
Astwihad- Death
Cheshma- Earthquakes and tornadoes
Kunda- Demonic Steed
Uta- Brings sickness through air and water
Vizaresh- Evil Psychopomp
So there are a ton of options here. We could easily have as many of these as we have demons or devils.
Also, a slight mistake on my part: Asag is not a Div. He is Sumerian while Divs are Persian. Most Sumerian fiends in the game are demons, like Pazuzu and Lamashtu, so that would be the logical place for Asag rather than being a Div.
Also, do you like this list? I might see about making more for other lesser used mythology based outsider groups.
The Celedon reminds me a lot of the Pathfinder Shabti.
I like it, but you should put more info on the creatures, so we don't have to look up them ourselves, if its small groups you're posting you could add some info on their appearance, powers, origin and behavior?
It isn't that simple. The website I found them on only lists the name and attribute. I assumed that these would be starting points and the actual designs and details about the creatures would be made by whoever decides to use them.
At least one of those div are already in the game as a div, could be actually be even more, but I only immediately noticed Aghash.
My mistake.
I do hope for more div, I enjoy arabic mythology and they are some of the only outsiders that they gave compulsions to.
A living clothing type creature would be interesting.
If we don't have an undead that is electrical based and died because of lightning or the electric chair, then yes please.
Blast shadows are fire based and they are created by magical mishaps not forces of nature or man's tampering with forces of nature using technology. Also I would like both a corporeal and incorporeal undead that is electrical based.
We have a lot of monsters based on sculptures and statues but what about paintings, pottery, tapestries, clothing, jewelry, musical instruments, cards/dice. I know we some creatures like these but they are few and far between.
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Blast shadows are fire based and they are created by magical mishaps not forces of nature or man's tampering with forces of nature using technology. Also I would like both a corporeal and incorporeal undead that is electrical based.
We have a lot of monsters based on sculptures and statues but what about paintings, pottery, tapestries, clothing, jewelry, musical instruments, cards/dice. I know we some creatures like these but they are few and far between.
Have you read the original monster entry in The Armageddon Echo? It discusses...
Although most blast shadows are created through fire,
others are known to exist. The following variants have
different abilities than the standard blast shadow.
Acid Shadow: Created using an acid fog or similar effect,
the claws, cloud, and death burst of an acid shadow deal
acid damage instead of fire damage. The cloud of an acid
shadow does not grant concealment, but any weapon that
strikes an acid shadow takes 2d6 points of acid damage.
Freezing Shadow: Those who die from supernatural
cold, such as the cold created by control weather, sometimes
rise as freezing shadows. The claws, cloud, and death
burst of a freezing shadow deal cold damage instead of fire
damage. A freezing shadow can move across ice and snow
without penalty.
Lightning Shadow: These undead are created through
terrible lightning storms, such as those manifested by call
lightning storm and storm of vengeance. The claws, cloud,
and death burst of a lightning shadow deal electricity
damage instead of fire damage. The cloud of a lightning
shadow does not grant concealment, but anyone who
strikes a lightning shadow with a metal weapon takes 1d6
points of electricity damage.
Stat blocks on the Internet frequently omit supplemental material like this.
As for the "magic mishap vs. tech mishap"... technically, you're not entirely wrong. Based on Iron Gods, though, technology's destructive results tends to give us the same undead, for the most part. The Divinity's crew were undead out of the Bestiaries - pale strangers and irradiated dead are the only semi-technological undead I recall appearing.
An incorporeal electrical undead would be cool - I'm 100% with you there. ^_^
Statue monsters are kind of the low-hanging fruit. It would be interesting to see some monsters based on the themes you've suggested. I've loved the idea of painting monsters in particular ever since Final Fantasy III. Some of those might be hard to do in a way that's not outright comedic, though.
Megaraptor: please give this dinosaur a full entry of its own, instead of merely explaining how templates could be added to the velociraptor as was done in the first Bestiary. There is a significant gap in the list of large dinosaurs. By adding the Megaraptor the book gives shapechangers who focus on dinosaurs a little love.
I would like Megaraptor too, but you have to understand that it was not a giant Dromaeosaurid. Science has marched on since the 3.0 Monster Manual, and I really don't want him to be inaccurate, as he was a totally different kind of dinosaur than you're thinking of. Utahraptor, on the other hand, would be more than welcome as a huge Velociraptor cousin.
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Megaraptor: please give this dinosaur a full entry of its own, instead of merely explaining how templates could be added to the velociraptor as was done in the first Bestiary. There is a significant gap in the list of large dinosaurs. By adding the Megaraptor the book gives shapechangers who focus on dinosaurs a little love.I would like Megaraptor too, but you have to understand that it was not a giant Dromaeosaurid. Science has marched on since the 3.0 Monster Manual, and I really don't want him to be inaccurate, as he was a totally different kind of dinosaur than you're thinking of. Utahraptor, on the other hand, would be more than welcome as a huge Velociraptor cousin.
If there is one thing we can be certain of, it's that as long as James Jacobs is at Paizo, the dinosaurs in the Bestiaries will be carefully researched and in line with cutting-edge scientific fact. ^_^
That is true but it doesn't mean that the artist who draw them do the same level of research;)
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Once more, I can't help but recommend the website A Book of Creatures.
Today's entry is the [http://abookofcreatures.com/2015/06/22/saratan/]Saratan[/url]
aka...the Zaratan
Which uh...apparently started out as a GIANT CRAB MONSTER, before getting changed to a generic giant island fish/whale/turtle.
I know it's still sort of an island mimic, but a crab version is far more unique and interesting, and this would make a cool addition to a Pathfinder Bestiary.
Aspidochelone is already a whale in pathfinder, that would leave no space for a island-turtle monster.
I have this positive feeling that my favorite dinosaur (that everybody seems to ignore and hate, not on this site alone, but in the entire world, even Jurassic Park ignores it) Therizinosaurus is gonna get a spot in Bestiary 5. It has to be, as it far more unique than another ceratops, sauropod, tyrannosaur-like creature and whatever else there is in dinosaur world, so I'm pretty positive that it makes it in, IF dinosaurs are in.
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Aspidochelone is already a whale in pathfinder, that would leave no space for a island-turtle monster.
I have this positive feeling that my favorite dinosaur (that everybody seems to ignore and hate) Therizinosaurus is gonna get a spot in Bestiary 5. It has to be, as it far more unique than another ceratops, sauropod, tyrannosaur-like creature and whatever else there is in dinosaur world, so I'm pretty positive that it makes it in, IF dinosaurs are in.
Holy crap that dinosaur looks terrifying. It has my vote.
Well it isn't called the Freddy Kruger of dinosaur-world for nothing. :-p
Tanystropheus would be another strange dinosaurs I would love, but they don't really pose a big threat, so a monster that looks like the Tanystropheus (Like the cryptid Ninki Nanka) would be cool I guess.
Whatever happens, the Therizinosaurus SHOULD get the picture of the page, not the other dinosaur that shares it's page.
The Zaratan, that brings me back. We could use more creatures that pretend to be islands. I would like a fish, turtle, and crab version.
A house mimic would be cool as well. But not just a bigger mimic with extra HD, give it more abilities and better mimicry such as burning candles, working oven, working plumbing, etc.
A Therizinosaurus and Carnotaurus are obvious candidates for new dinosaurs I think
oh and Protoceratops...I actually had a kobold paladin that wanted one for a mount...
I hope Bestiary 5 and/or the Occult Bestiary get some Castrovelian creatures as well.
Let's talk about something that has yet to be touched upon in the game, the Malaysian Demons/Ghosts/Spirits/Who knows, the Hantu. Though it translates as "ghost" I feel this word is a bit like "Yokai" in that it covers a vast array of supernatural entities, some clearly human undead, some more like Christian demons, and many others much, much weirder than anything else we've seen. I would tentatively call them a Native Outsider group, with varied alignments across the spectrum of evil and neutral (Most don't seem particularly good.) Anyways, there are a crap ton of types, and the ones I know about include:
Hantu Air: A shapeshifting, disease causing, aquatic demon. Usually looks like a dead log.
Hantu Anak Gua Batu: Cave dwelling spirit, resembles a floating stalagtite like thing with glowing red eyes.
Hantu Apu: A ghost that disguises itself as a mat.
Hantu Bajang: Malevolent civet like ghost. Lures people by making sounds like a crying infant.
Hantu Balung Bidai: Evil aquatic creature, looks like a flat piece of cloth with a mouth on each corner.
Hantu Bandan: Waterfall spirit with a cauldron like head, in which it traps other spirits.
Hantu Bangkit: Red eyed, graveyard dwelling undead creature.
Hantu Beruk: Monkey spirit that possesses ritual dancers.
Hantu Belian: Winged tiger spirit, serves as a familiar.
Hantu Batu: Many armed, Xorn-like rock throwing spirit.
Hantu Bungkus: Living cloth monster, strangles people to death.
Hantu Daguk: Malevolent living mist monster, believed to be the spirit of a murdered man.
Hantu Buta: Creature that causes blindness, a ghoul with grotesquely huge eyes.
Hantu Cika: Disease causing, inflatable, balloon like ghost.
Hantu Bisa: Grotesque, toxic ghost said to bring terminal disease.
Hantu Tinggi: A towering ghost, capable of making people crane their neck to look at it's full self till it breaks.
Hantu Denai; Hideous, beastlike, hunting spirit.
Hantu Gunung: Avalanche causing mountain ghost
Hantu Hutan: Ancient, entlike jungle spirit.
Hantu Jembalang Tanah: Monstrous spirit, and the enforcer of the Hantu Hutan. Will kill anyone who irritates it's master.
Hantu Jerangkung: Skeleton like demons.
Hantu Kuang: Hundred eyed monster.
Hantu Dondong: Blowgun wielding cave spirit.
Hantu Gaharu: Soul eating protective tree spirit.
Hantu Hutan: Fish eating forest demon.
Hantu Jarang Gigi: Anglerfish toothed sasquatch like creature.
Hantu Kertau: Deer/Boar hybrid beasts.
Hantu Kopek: Female spirit that suffocates people with her breasts. (Seriously.)
Hantu Langut: Jungle creature with a head permanently tilted upwards.
Hantu Longgok: Garbage monster.
Hantu Parl: Battlefield demon, scavenges corpses.
Hantu Pemburu: Hunt demon with a body covered in moss. Commands spectral hounds.
Hantu Penyardin: Vampiric, dog headed humanoid.
Hantu Ranges: Green colored, axe wielding humanoid.
Hantu Ribut: Storm demon.
Hantu Songkei: Weird creature with a giant nose, a row of eyes wrapping around it's head, and an invisible lower body.
There's tons more types, actually, but these are the most interesting ones in my opinion. The Lansuir and Orang Minyak may be types of Hantu as well. What do you think?
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I dunno...I think you don't need a distinct creature category for "Hantu", since that basically just means spirit anyway, and they are all over the map as far as any actual creature type goes. So its hard for me to think of a specific "theme" that most of the outsider types having going for them. Instead...I would treat most as Kami and others as undead/aberrations/etc.
The only thing I can think of remotely is making them some sort of "memory" of ancient long extinct races. But I don't know how well that works for them really. At least some Hantu are suppose to have this origin, being the spirits of ancient beings that were the first to walk the land.
I agree drop the word "Hantu". Also a lot of these guys could be different creature types like aberration, fey, monstrous humanoid, etc..