If anyone checks the spreadsheet over the next couple of days, I am reorganizing it a little, splitting the bestiary numbers from the modules/APs/source books so that it is a lot easier to see what's in a bestiary and what is elsewhere - this means it is getting re-saved in a semi formatted state for the next day or so.
This also means that we also have a small column being added which will allow us to mark requests as "IP/Copyrighted" so we know which requests are most unlikely/never to happen (e.g Doc Who/Star Trek/Star Wars).
something to keep in mind then is that while Paizo can't do, say, a Dalek, they could do a more generic "Evil alien aberration in a mechanical suite". I just assume when people ask for X from Y movie/book/comics, they just want something that is inspired from it.
Yeah, I just want something inspired by these creatures. I know that they can't directly use them for copyright reasons. Though if the creature can be used directly because the copyright has expired or they get permission from the copyright holder then all the better.
something to keep in mind then is that while Paizo can't do, say, a Dalek, they could do a more generic "Evil alien aberration in a mechanical suite". I just assume when people ask for X from Y movie/book/comics, they just want something that is inspired from it.If anyone checks the spreadsheet over the next couple of days, I am reorganizing it a little, splitting the bestiary numbers from the modules/APs/source books so that it is a lot easier to see what's in a bestiary and what is elsewhere - this means it is getting re-saved in a semi formatted state for the next day or so.
This also means that we also have a small column being added which will allow us to mark requests as "IP/Copyrighted" so we know which requests are most unlikely/never to happen (e.g Doc Who/Star Trek/Star Wars).
Indeed - this is why I am keeping the request on the list, just marking it as copyright so that everyone knows when they check the list. :)
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A creature similar to the puss n' boots fairy tale, make him small size with the swashbuckler's panache ability and fencing grace as a bonus feat. I think he would make an interesting fey creature around CR4-6 range.
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A creature similar to the puss n' boots fairy tale, make him small size with the swashbuckler's panache ability and fencing grace as a bonus feat. I think he would make an interesting fey creature around CR4-6 range.
It was done in a 3PP book, and is called the Puss in Boots. It's a CG small CR 4 magical beast. Its special ability is called "smooth talker".
EDIT: You can find it here.
I don't buy 3PP books but thanks for the info Kevin_video.
It seems February 2014 was month of the dinosaur request!
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I would like to see creatures that feed/drain Ki, bardic music, rounds of rage, Grit, and other similar class abilities.
I just noticed this while going through the thread, and this might make for a neat concept for an undead or fey, that steals class resources based on it's own class. (So a fey 'anti-muse' with bard levels would steal rounds of bardic performance to fuel her own abilities, or an undead 'rage-lost' would go berserk and drain rounds of rage from any barbarians nearby in the process to buff itself. Versions based on clerics might steal prepared spells or domain power uses or channel energy uses, etc. An undead monk of this type would siphon ki from foes to power it's own abilities, an undead gunslinger / fey swashbuckler not only unleashes grit- / panache-fueled abilities upon you, but steals your grit / panache to do it, adding insult to injury!)
Rather than be an actual creature type, it could be a 'Dark Muse' template added to a fey or undead creature with class levels in barbarian, monk, ninja, swashbuckler, gunslinger, etc. and have the ability to steal daily resource points from anyone in 30 ft. to fuel their own resource-point-based class abilities.
Oh yes, the Dinosaur request. Sorry about that. Didn't realize I was making other people do massive amounts of work when I post this stuff. :)
And just to add insult to injury, here are four new discoveries of mine that I don't think have been referenced on this thread, but stand out for their coolness:
1.Aasrivak- Move over Aatxe, their's a new first creature in the alphabetical list. The Aasrivak is from Inuit folklore, and really closely resembles a Phase Spider or Aranea. It's a giant, monstrous spider with a human head that eats people, basically. I could see it as an Ice themed Fleshwarp of some kind.
2.Abura Bo- The Abura Bo is a Yokai and most likely an elemental of some sort. In the folklore it looked like a human monk, but we could conceivably give it a more monstrous appearence. This guys main gimick was that he was bascially the Human Torch. He was a humanoid that could burst in to flames whenever he wanted, and walk around burning without doing any harm to himself, but scorching everything he toughed.
3.Faduah- If the Aasrivak is the Phase Spider than this guy's the Vegepygmy. In the folklore he was basically the humanoid version of the Barometz, near human and rooted to the ground, but if we did to him what was done to the Barometz we could have a cool humanoid plant monster, something we don't have enough of.
4.Takanyudo- Another Yokai, priestly humanoids capable of changing size at will. I'd say make it high level and have it go from medium to Gargantuan, as we don't have a monster with that level of size chanaging ability yet.
Sorry for any confusion about the identity of the poster for this post, my Grandma has an account that she used to purchase some books for me and I was logged in as her.
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I want my CR 26 hellfire wyrm expy, damnit.
I remember a worm version and a dragon version of a hellfire wyrm, wich version are you talking about FormerFiend?
I am sure one day they will make such creatures Set, hopefully sooner then later.
Yeah February was a month for Dinosaurs and I think we had some Megafauna as well.
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Oh yes, the Dinosaur request. Sorry about that. Didn't realize I was making other people do massive amounts of work when I post this stuff. :)
Not a problem, Lots of work means lots of things to choose from when the Bestiary gets put together ;)
And the work only has to be done once, once I have my sheet, it then becomes a matter of just keeping up :)
p.s. I love dinosaurs too and there were quite a few I hadnt heard of in there which I am enjoying looking up ;)
While I appriciate the efforts of combined list i still want people to wade through the topic. As such lists may list empusa (example) but not my own version of the empusa but people who read the name-only lists think about the myth first and not about the god-of-war like empusa i want. The list may give such an impession but it would be a mistake to turn the empusa into just another succubus wanabee...
Oh yes, the Dinosaur request. Sorry about that. Didn't realize I was making other people do massive amounts of work when I post this stuff. :)
Not a problem, Lots of work means lots of things to choose from when the Bestiary gets put together ;)
And the work only has to be done once, once I have my sheet, it then becomes a matter of just keeping up :)
p.s. I love dinosaurs too and there were quite a few I hadnt heard of in there which I am enjoying looking up ;)
Good to hear. I don't expect that all of those Dinosaurs and Megafauna will end up in the game, (unless we were to get a giant book of animal companions, and one meant for a "Lost World" type region at that, which would be awesome but unlikely) , but I'm glad that someone is finding my handiwork helpful. I'd be happy if just a few of the obscure species I listed were included when they wouldn't have otherwise. Plus my Tiefling Daemonspawn Ranger really needs some kind of bizarre prehistoric creature as a companion. I was thinking a Gorgonopsid, Masiakasaurus, or Therizinosaurus.
While I appriciate the efforts of combined list i still want people to wade through the topic. As such lists may list empusa (example) but not my own version of the empusa but people who read the name-only lists think about the myth first and not about the god-of-war like empusa i want. The list may give such an impession but it would be a mistake to turn the empusa into just another succubus wanabee...
You never know, once we have a full list, the thread might become a more details "version" type of posting rather than them being buried between huge lists ;)
Don't forget, on my sheet, I am gradually working in all the existing Paizo products so that you can see both where and if they have already developed a version which might just need tweaking. You can already tell which are in the currently available modules and the first 30 APs with more being referenced daily :)
While I appriciate the efforts of combined list i still want people to wade through the topic. As such lists may list empusa (example) but not my own version of the empusa but people who read the name-only lists think about the myth first and not about the god-of-war like empusa i want. The list may give such an impession but it would be a mistake to turn the empusa into just another succubus wanabee...
To be fair, it's kind of tough to do that in list format like what is being put together. At least this way, a developer can search for "Empusae" and get all of your posts, as well as other peoples opinions
Now that were getting rules for psychic magic, I think a psychic creature template would be cool.
Also a haunted creature template, basically a haunt that resides in a living creature instead of a place.
A monstrous(or cursed) template that curses humanoids into monstrous humanoids, similar to the whole beauty and the best story.
While I appriciate the efforts of combined list i still want people to wade through the topic. As such lists may list empusa (example) but not my own version of the empusa but people who read the name-only lists think about the myth first and not about the god-of-war like empusa i want. The list may give such an impession but it would be a mistake to turn the empusa into just another succubus wanabee...To be fair, it's kind of tough to do that in list format like what is being put together. At least this way, a developer can search for "Empusae" and get all of your posts, as well as other peoples opinions
I agree BUT, with those list I don't think the guy who's doing the monster searches this FORUM for the monster, but he looks on google/internet.
Then you will see the Empusa from God of War, but the Wikipedia description only shows mantis-monsters because empusa are real-life mantis creatures. But the mythology empusa entry doesn't give anything about that, only info on the horrid (sorry I really dislike it) real-life mythology empusa that looks 99% as a Succubus + bronze leg and fiery hair.
Anyway many mythology monsters I don't mind in their true versions such as Batibat, Olitiau, Gloson, Tiyanak, Ahkiyyini and many more, but some are really not what i'm after.
The most important mythology creautres I really like to change and which could confuse on list-only versions are:
A Boa A Qu - I really want it to be a charisma-draining ooze that wants to become perfect and which is vain and intelligent, I don't know if that is in the true myth because that myth is pretty vague at best.
Asag - Is a unique demon lord in mythology, but I want it to be a stone-hide demon that spawns underlings from its back, in the true myth it created these underlings (stone creatures) by mating with the mountains, and in the true myth it isn't made from stone.
Empusa - See above, this one is most devastreus for me if the succubus-version makes it in, as i'm deep love with the God of War/any mantis version.
Yeitso - While this creatures is described in the way I like it on one site, that site is very hard to find, most sites describe this creature horrible and boring. In one site however this creature is a giant covered in pangolin scales which it can use as throwing daggers and swords, the others just describe this creature as boring giant.
Gaasyendietha - I really want this to be a meteor-dragon, not a lake dragon, cooling off because it is so hot in lakes isn't really bad tho.
Cu Sith - Being just a green Barghest isn't what I want in this creature, plant-connections are a must for me personally, as seen in the green color, marvel uses a very cool cu sith as well.
Gancanagh - In the real myth this creature is small and ugly, I want it to be a pretty male creature, not only its sweat must be addicted. And it must be arrogant and vain.
Kumiho - NO SHAPESHIFTING into humans pe-lease. IF this creature must have a some shapeshift-into-humans ability, then please make it so that it HATES to transform into that form and only uses it rarely, it loves its 9-tailed fox form too much, unlike the Kitsune who seems to hate their fox form and which lack any info on their 9 tails. The picture should really be the 9-tailed fox, not a human with fox tails, bleh. Ow and Kumiho and vile, not only tricky.
Shellycoat - So much potentional goes to waste in the real description of this creature. It must be Evil and it must use shells as weapons, not only cover itself in them, if it would only cover itself in shells, what use would this creature have at all?
Vila - Storm Nymph or not nymph, the real description is so chaotic it could go all sorts of roads, but I want a storm nymph, and evil nymph, we have enough good nymphs and enough neutral ones too.
Amhuluk - Another creature that is a victim of different sites, some sites describe it perfectly, others get rid of many awesome stories about this creature, like that other creatures mutate when they drink from or fall into its lake.
Akaname - No fun monster please, make it serious, some horrid Otyugh-humanoid or something from Resident evil, but no fun, hilaric monster.
Hidebehind - See Akaname, I posted this awesome picture of a hidebehind, that should be the model, not some funny bear monster.
Kaw Kaw - Another victim of different descriptions, I just hope Paizo-staff find the right one.
Wizard Shackle - Really horrible in real myth, should have anti-spellcaster abilities and leave the horrid Tome-of-horrors version, because I don't like true creatures turning into hazards.
Others that they really need to change and search for on the message boards:
Adze / Bakru / Basan / Afanc (ow please please don't use the Tome of Horror/D&D version, same with cherufe/cherum and Bloody Bones) / Mngwa / Karkadann (no rhinoceros please) / Tsemaus / Zaratan / Sarangay / Hraesvelgr / and Brobinyak
Some creatures are very good in the descriptions but the size is bad, like the Namazu and the Djieien, they are very original, very cool and their powers are on all their sites the same, but the size (gargantuan) destroys these creatures.
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Also my newest lovechilds I found on the internet from real myth.
Pua Tu Tahi - A living riff demon, an animated riff, much bigger than a Coral Golem.
Sarkany - The Shapeshifting storm/bad weather dragon, or a demon that can transform into a dragon form.
Alkonost - This could be a harpy-like creature with a voice that doesn't lure you but which makes you aggressive toward you friends, or turns you insane, or anything else what could be done with a magical voice.
Swamfisk - This strange fish monster could be a Goliath Tiger-Fish with some strange abilities, namely that is appears to be death and its endless growing flesh will float from its body to attract carnivorous prey to it, its horrid stench is also very vile.
Tartalo - Are Cyclops-monsters from Basque mythology (same as Gaueko and Aatxe), they could be more like demonical Cyclops monsters tho.
Yagim - A very cool red-headed shark monster from native American folk-tales, there are masks made from this creature and they are always red, as they present bloodlust and carnage. These large shark monsters love to turn over small boats and feast on the people on it, they can also live in rivers like bull sharks.
Also please search for Alicanto and Nguruvilu on google, they should be in Bestiary 5!
And the MASTERPIECE of this list would be the Kaw Kaw's cousin bogeyman from Maltese mythology, the Ill Belliegha or Well Bogeyman. A horrid abomination that lives in wells and which can control water, it could have very long arms and legs which it uses to crawl out of the well with.
A monster living in the towns well is always good for horror stories!
The Australian Nargun gets an update:
This insectoid rock monster could have magnetic powers, as any weapon you use against it will be used back at you.
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Awesome creatures with saw-like horns/bones growing from bodies.
As so many people here love the chainsaws in those Numeria books, i'm sure they would not care for this saw-based creature.
I love the Aeternae! They're awesome! And they were from the same stories as the Odontotyrannus, maybe they could show up together in an AP before showing up in a bestiary.
Those new monsters you found are pretty cool, most of them are on my list now too.
I actually agree with most of the changes you made to those monsters, they do seem to be reasonable and just make the creatures more unique or dangerous. It's interesting that most of the updates I didn't like aren't the ones that are most important to you. The one exception to that rule is that I would rather have the succubus like Empusa, some of us (namely me) like the seductive female monsters (in my case probably a little too much), but God of War has set a precedent for that, so like the Salamander and Barghest, that probably makes it reasonable. Note that I do like God of War Empusae, I'd just rather them be an original monster. So all in all good list.
I love the Aeternae! They're awesome! And they were from the same stories as the Odontotyrannus, maybe they could show up together in an AP before showing up in a bestiary.
Those new monsters you found are pretty cool, most of them are on my list now too.I actually agree with most of the changes you made to those monsters, they do seem to be reasonable and just make the creatures more unique or dangerous. It's interesting that most of the updates I didn't like aren't the ones that are most important to you. The one exception to that rule is that I would rather have the succubus like Empusa, some of us (namely me) like the seductive female monsters (in my case probably a little too much), but God of War has set a precedent for that, so like the Salamander and Barghest, that probably makes it reasonable. Note that I do like God of War Empusae, I'd just rather them be an original monster. So all in all good list.
Thanks.
The Empusa however, I don't only want it to be mantis-like because of God of War (the model is brilliant tho) but also because a real life mantis group is called Empusae and because Empusa are man-eaters, just like Mantis, it suits them, and we have already so much winged, charming females. I do like Empusa as succubus-like monsters in world where there are no Succubus yet.
Succubus/Incubus were once my favorite creatures of all time (see sincubus name for proof) but they are far down the list now, (far as in somewhere in the 500) because so many other monsters look and behave like them...
I think the Giant-Ap that follows after the Numerian one can have different type of mythology monsters in it, I don't think they will fill up all bestiaries with giants (that would be too much) so I hope Odontotyrannus and the Aeternae show up together there, but bestiary 5 would be a better place still, Aeternae could ride on the odontotyrannus for example they could have connections.
I like the Odontotyrannus to be a demonical (like baregara and bebilith) dinosaur/T.rex like monster with teeth growing everywhere out of their skin (as their name means tooth tyrant) and the Aeternae could be much like the Tarkantans from Mortal Kombat (Baraka) in that they can summon their own bones from their bodies and shape them (much like Marrow from x-men) into saw like forms to make them as weapons. They could both be natives to the abyss/hell or the Daemons planes.
Wannabe, what do you think about the Kumiho? What would you like it to be? Another kitsune or a 9-tailed fox?
I was looking at your list Anthony and noticed that Agmazar in the Kaiju section doesn't have a listing of where you can find his stats. He is found in the Mythic Realms campaign setting book, unless your only listing hardcover bestiaries, APs, and Modules?
I was looking at your list Anthony and noticed that Agmazar in the Kaiju section doesn't have a listing of where you can find his stats. He is found in the Mythic Realms campaign setting book, unless your only listing hardcover bestiaries, APs, and Modules?
I started with modules, am working through the APs, the other splat books will follow, it's just taking me some time as there is a lot to scan through.
I will probably do the splat books in the order of Core Hardbacks / Settings / Chronicles and then Companions but need to finish the APs first up to Mummys Mask - Iron Gods can be done towards the end as I catch up :)
This update has all modules and first 36 APs now in it and all the posts from the start of the thread to almost the end of March 2014, so I am well over half way now :)
I have noticed a slow down in adding stuff from the thread - I seem to have hit a discuss suggestions/repeat suggestions bit of the thread, but I am still working on it.
Don't forgot the Gigas Clam in one of the Pirate AP's.
It isn't in a bestiary, but in a pre-bestiary (for some strange reasons) together with a scylla and octopus monster I forgot the names from.
Don't forgot the Gigas Clam in one of the Pirate AP's.
It isn't in a bestiary, but in a pre-bestiary (for some strange reasons) together with a scylla and octopus monster I forgot the names from.
Not a problem,
APs included so far in the list
Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Second Darkness, Legacy of Fire, Council of Thieves, Kingmaker
APs that will be added over the next few days (in this order)
Serpents Skull, Carrion Crown, Jade Regent, Skull and Shackles, Shattered Star, Reign of Winter, Wrath of the Righteous, and Mummy's Mask
(I think your Clam, etc., is in the Skull and Shackles AP)
Ok, I see, you haven't gotten to that part yet.
I want a ranged evil outsider that relies on touch attacks to put fear into the hearts of Summoners who have stupidly high ACs on their eidolons.I just use summons.
4 horse riding gunslingers should sort that problem out :)
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A creature similar to the puss n' boots fairy tale, make him small size with the swashbuckler's panache ability and fencing grace as a bonus feat. I think he would make an interesting fey creature around CR4-6 range.
Cat, d'Artagnan
Mouse, PorthosMouse, Aramis
Mouse, Athos
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"d'Artagnan cat", strange name but might work.
"d'Artagnan cat", strange name but might work.
Don't forget his three mouse-keteers! :P
Wich one was the Yokai that was an umbrella?
I remember a worm version and a dragon version of a hellfire wyrm, wich version are you talking about FormerFiend?
I am sure one day they will make such creatures Set, hopefully sooner then later.
Yeah February was a month for Dinosaurs and I think we had some Megafauna as well.
The dragon, in MMII.
I don't know why, but that thing has always been my favorite creature in D&D. From the first time I saw it in an online art gallery before ever picking up a D&D book, I fell in love with the damn thing.
Well you might get something like it one day, I mean we still need some outer plane based dragons.
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Add my vote for more outer planes dragons, although in the spirit of the hellfire wyrm, I think it might be cooler to have outer planes templates for dragons--then if the fiends get lucky, they might corrupt a gold dragon to get a hellfire gold dragon, and vice versa, Heaven might have a redeemed radiant red dragon guarding the gates.
Templates for heavenly or elysian or infernal or abyssal or first world or shadow plane or astral or elemental earth or maelstrom or Axis/clockwork/inevitable dragons might be much more generally useful than just a dragon type for each plane.
For that matter, the 'simple' templates were a serviceable generalized approximation to save wordcount, back in the day, but perhaps it's time for more specific (and not so 'simple') 'fiendish' and 'celestial' and 'half fiend' and 'half celestial' templates, differentiating between demonic and diabolic and daemonic and kyton-ic and qlippothic and angelic and archonic and azatan creatures.
A 'fiendish' (or half-fiend!) dire bear from the plane of shadow, that's been modified by Kyton surgeries and torments, should be a somewhat different beastie (certainly not mechanically identical, as they currently are!) than a 'fiendish' (or half-fiend) dire bear from the qlippoth-haunted depths of the Abyss, where even demons fear to tread.
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Add my vote for more outer planes dragons, although in the spirit of the hellfire wyrm, I think it might be cooler to have outer planes templates for dragons--then if the fiends get lucky, they might corrupt a gold dragon to get a hellfire gold dragon, and vice versa, Heaven might have a redeemed radiant red dragon guarding the gates.Templates for heavenly or elysian or infernal or abyssal or first world or shadow plane or astral or elemental earth or maelstrom or Axis/clockwork/inevitable dragons might be much more generally useful than just a dragon type for each plane.
For that matter, the 'simple' templates were a serviceable generalized approximation to save wordcount, back in the day, but perhaps it's time for more specific (and not so 'simple') 'fiendish' and 'celestial' and 'half fiend' and 'half celestial' templates, differentiating between demonic and diabolic and daemonic and kyton-ic and qlippothic and angelic and archonic and azatan creatures.
A 'fiendish' (or half-fiend!) dire bear from the plane of shadow, that's been modified by Kyton surgeries and torments, should be a somewhat different beastie (certainly not mechanically identical, as they currently are!) than a 'fiendish' (or half-fiend) dire bear from the qlippoth-haunted depths of the Abyss, where even demons fear to tread.
This kind of brings us back to 3.5 style which thankfully the fiendish book kind of took from. With that book you had variants on the half-fiend template (succubus, babau, balor, etc). I'd love to see something like that done for the half-celestials.
That being said, in 3.5 there was a half-fiend variant book for MMI that could be downloaded (not now because the site's been completely changed and nothing 3.5 exists on there any more), and you could have a kraken succubus if you wanted, and it was perfectly viable. In various modules, namely the Savage Tide, we learned of another variant succubus, the alu-demon, and the lemorian (sentient creature turned INTO a partial fiend). I agree, I'd like to see more like that.
For regular creatures who were surrounded by pollution and magic, you had the arcane-blood, the corrupted, the poisonous, and the stoneboned creature templates.
Variant templates would be great. I miss the web mummy (an undead that's wrapped up in a spider's webbing), the lichfiend (an evil outsider that gained lichdom), and the necromental (undead elemental). Also, give me back the half-golems.
Heck, my favourite template for the braggarty game-breaking players who held absolutely no value on any character's life, and was the absolute worst kind of showboating min-maxer, was the Aleax. You pissed off a god, a construct version of you hunted you down until you were dead. Its special ability was no other character could touch it. One-on-one only. Loved it. However, it did have the side effect of possibly making the min-maxer a broken character if it defeated the thing.
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Too late to edit my last post so I'll just add this here. I'd like to see more base races. Especially ones that we should have gotten, but didn't because they're kind of copyrighted, and Paizo apparently didn't want us to have them because it didn't fit in their world. The templated ones do, or the evil ones with HD do, but not a base race. Whatever. Putting them down here.
Dragonborn: Give it a different name, and we're good to know. They were around as a +0 template in 3.5, and were kept in 4th, but given a stupid backstory. Next still has them, and I'd like to see them here as well.
Fetch: Sometimes a male ghost is allowed to say good-bye to their beloved girlfriend/wife/female significant other one final time, and sometimes they're even allowed one last night in bed with them, allowing the lady to become pregnant, via the blessings of a deity. This, if a fetch. Think the Spawn series. The deity doesn't have to be good. They wouldn't be that different from a dhampir for abilities, vulnerabilities, etc, but they could try.
There was a Ghost Elf in 3.5 as well.
Half-Doppelganger: I miss the 3.5 changeling so much. They made for the most fun rogue builds. Especially diplomacers and infiltrators.
Shifter: We've got lycanthrope skinwalkers, but not shifters?
Crucians and Tortles: Welcome back, Ninja Turtles.
Phanatons: Flying squirrel people. How could that not be fun to play?
EDIT: A couple of official giant races would be nice too.
this month the D&D monster manual (5th edition ) comes out and reviews say it will be the best monster book ever.
Well and then I read the following stuff:
It even includes oddities like modrons, yochlols, and flumphs (at least Alphastream’s happy).
and
There are fifteen pages on metallic dragons, an amount I would consider excessive for good-aligned creatures, and five pages alone on beholders not even including the awesome zombie beholder hidden away in the zombie section.
This book will never win from Pathfinders bestiaries in this way lol.
But I wonder if there will be something in that book that I will dig, it probably has all 4th edition monsters in it plus Flumphs and trillion of Modrons.
Anyway, what I really wanted to say is, after 4 bestiaries it is really time to have some magnetic monsters being introduced! No robots or constructs tho, I'd rather see a aberration or magical beast that can control magnetism.
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I can honestly say that when Bestiary 5 comes out, I don't expect to see many new monsters. In fact, at least half of them should be the monsters from the PFS and standard modules. Without them being inside a core book like Bestiary 5, 3PP can't reference them in their game modules. I know from my own experience of trying. And there's a lot of monsters that still haven't been converted over from the original 3.5 ones Paizo did, and the new modules of late.
Well we gave them like 6 full bestiarires with wishes, I may hope we get more monsters than previous bestiaries!
But we probably get more 2 page monsters... It is a nightmare :-(
I agree Kevin_video, we need the rest of those 3.5 pathfinder AP and module creatures in a hardcover.
I can honestly say that when Bestiary 5 comes out, I don't expect to see many new monsters. In fact, at least half of them should be the monsters from the PFS and standard modules. Without them being inside a core book like Bestiary 5, 3PP can't reference them in their game modules. I know from my own experience of trying. And there's a lot of monsters that still haven't been converted over from the original 3.5 ones Paizo did, and the new modules of late.
I doubt that will happen. My guess is that they will continue to have an even mix of already published monsters, a few OGL critters not yet ported over (or new versions of the same things if they are myth based), and completely new monsters. They have done that for the last few bestiaries, and I don't see them radically altering their design plans for books, espeically in way that may discourage consumers who heavily invest into the AP, CS, and Module lines
Edit: unless I am reading you wrong, and you actually mean that the current ratio of new stuff will remain the same, and you consider that current ratio to not have that much new stuff?
Too late to edit my last post so I'll just add this here. I'd like to see more base races. Especially ones that we should have gotten, but didn't because they're kind of copyrighted, and Paizo apparently didn't want us to have them because it didn't fit in their world. The templated ones do, or the evil ones with HD do, but not a base race. Whatever. Putting them down here.
Dragonborn: Give it a different name, and we're good to know. They were around as a +0 template in 3.5, and were kept in 4th, but given a stupid backstory. Next still has them, and I'd like to see them here as well.
Fetch: Sometimes a male ghost is allowed to say good-bye to their beloved girlfriend/wife/female significant other one final time, and sometimes they're even allowed one last night in bed with them, allowing the lady to become pregnant, via the blessings of a deity. This, if a fetch. Think the Spawn series. The deity doesn't have to be good. They wouldn't be that different from a dhampir for abilities, vulnerabilities, etc, but they could try.
There was a Ghost Elf in 3.5 as well.Half-Doppelganger: I miss the 3.5 changeling so much. They made for the most fun rogue builds. Especially diplomacers and infiltrators.
Shifter: We've got lycanthrope skinwalkers, but not shifters?
Crucians and Tortles: Welcome back, Ninja Turtles.
Phanatons: Flying squirrel people. How could that not be fun to play?
EDIT: A couple of official giant races would be nice too.
Dragonborn don't have many fans amongst the Paizo staff, So I expect the Wyvaran is the closest we will ever get. I am also confused on What you want out of a Paizo shifter? While I am not an expert on Eberron, Skinwalkers seem to pretty much occupy the same niche. Paizo can't do a one to one conversion for copyright reasons...if you find skinwalkers to be too different from Shifters, than any sort of Paizo adaptation of the other races won't be much better.
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Edit: unless I am reading you wrong, and you actually mean that the current ratio of new stuff will remain the same, and you consider that current ratio to not have that much new stuff?
Yeah, I don't believe the ratio will be changing any time soon, other than to maybe fit a few extra already published monsters if it finishes those off and they don't have to worry about putting them in Bestiary 6.
Dragonborn don't have many fans amongst the Paizo staff, So I expect the Wyvaran is the closest we will ever get. I am also confused on What you want out of a Paizo shifter? While I am not an expert on Eberron, Skinwalkers seem to pretty much occupy the same niche. Paizo can't do a one to one conversion for copyright reasons...if you find skinwalkers to be too different from Shifters, than any sort of Paizo adaptation of the other races won't be much better.
I'm aware that there's little love, and I don't understand why. They're perfectly viable. They just straight up refuse to give us a dragon race, and even nerfed the half-dragon. I say nerf because if you don't have racial HD, your breath weapon is forever going to be 1d6 1/day. Wow. I'm so scared of that. It took a whole bunch of people yipping at them to finally buckle and make a feat that's online only, and will never be published.
I just straight up don't understand their prejudice of dragon races. "PCs shouldn't be allowed to play them." That makes no sense. You finally allow dhampirs, but not draconic characters? Dhampirs and half-elementals are far more likely and acceptable? No, I don't buy it.Skinwalkers don't have any real strength. If you go over their racial list, they'd be more powerful if they didn't change out their abilities. The point buy for their race is frightening. At least shifters you chose what you had at the beginning of the game, and took feats to gain extra abilities.