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What is the name of the armadillo-folk from jawas south-american creature link?

Those make some awesome minions for my yeitso!

And damn wanabee, thats gonna take ages for me to search for on google and wiki, maybe you should only put descriptions on the ones that arent discussed yet in this topic? :-p


Why do I imagine a golem with mythic ranks and letters on the forehead that has been created from some special material, as kind of a reference to the original golem legends? So if a golem was treated as a magic item for a spellcaster, then this golem would basically be an artifact, thus nobody can create more of them, and there'd only be a handful of them in existence.


Wow, Wanabee Demon Lord, that is a huge list. I would hate to imagine how long it took to compile that one.


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Medieval monster and animal illustrations are also pretty fertile to mine for monster ideas:

Old Monster Drawings


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Btw wanabee demon lord, there are a lot creatures you can take off that list as they are already in paizo bestiaries.

Ive seen: al (hala), asanbosam (sabosan), barometz, edimmu, fachen, fext, fuath, gidim, impundulu, kapre, kijimuna, lukwata, manitau, ovinnik, sagari, sepid, shedu, siyokoy, soucouyant, sruvara, taniwha, tikoloshe, tizheruk, tuyewera, and xtabay


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Btw wanabee demon lord, there are a lot creatures you can take off that list as they are already in paizo bestiaries.

Ive seen: al (hala), asanbosam (sabosan), barometz, edimmu, fachen, fext, fuath, gidim, impundulu, kapre, kijimuna, lukwata, manitau, ovinnik, sagari, sepid, shedu, siyokoy, soucouyant, sruvara, taniwha, tikoloshe, tizheruk, tuyewera, and xtabay

For most of those that's true, this list wasn't originally meant for this thread but for my own project, which contained many Pathfinder creatures. I tried to edit them out, but I didn't catch them all.

Al is a creature from Arabic folklore, not the Ala (Hala).
Asanbosam in myth is very different from Pathfinder's Sabosan, but the name was partially changed so we can still use it.
Mythical Fuaths are very different from Pathfinder Fuaths.
Barometz, Fachen, Kapre, Lukwata, Manitou, Sagari, Sepid, Shedu, Siyokoy, and Xtabay are errors on my part.
I don't have access to most Adventure Paths (I'm just starting college and broke.)
I assume that Edimmu, Fext, Gidim, Impundulu, Kijimuna, Ovinnik, Soucouyant, Sruvara, Taniwha, Tikoloshe, Tizheruk, and Tuyewara must be from them. For most of those I didn't know that.
Thanks for the clarification though.


I like the picture of the giant fish with multiple crab claw like legs.


Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
The Evil Queen wrote:

Btw wanabee demon lord, there are a lot creatures you can take off that list as they are already in paizo bestiaries.

Ive seen: al (hala), asanbosam (sabosan), barometz, edimmu, fachen, fext, fuath, gidim, impundulu, kapre, kijimuna, lukwata, manitau, ovinnik, sagari, sepid, shedu, siyokoy, soucouyant, sruvara, taniwha, tikoloshe, tizheruk, tuyewera, and xtabay

For most of those that's true, this list wasn't originally meant for this thread but for my own project, which contained many Pathfinder creatures. I tried to edit them out, but I didn't catch them all.

Al is a creature from Arabic folklore, not the Ala (Hala).
Asanbosam in myth is very different from Pathfinder's Sabosan, but the name was partially changed so we can still use it.
Mythical Fuaths are very different from Pathfinder Fuaths.
Barometz, Fachen, Kapre, Lukwata, Manitou, Sagari, Sepid, Shedu, Siyokoy, and Xtabay are errors on my part.
I don't have access to most Adventure Paths (I'm just starting college and broke.)
I assume that Edimmu, Fext, Gidim, Impundulu, Kijimuna, Ovinnik, Soucouyant, Sruvara, Taniwha, Tikoloshe, Tizheruk, and Tuyewara must be from them. For most of those I didn't know that.
Thanks for the clarification though.

Yes most are in adventure path bestiaries. But the soucouyant is in bestiary 4 as blood hag. Isnt taniwha the same as the disease dragon from bestiary 4?


The Evil Queen wrote:
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
The Evil Queen wrote:

Btw wanabee demon lord, there are a lot creatures you can take off that list as they are already in paizo bestiaries.

Ive seen: al (hala), asanbosam (sabosan), barometz, edimmu, fachen, fext, fuath, gidim, impundulu, kapre, kijimuna, lukwata, manitau, ovinnik, sagari, sepid, shedu, siyokoy, soucouyant, sruvara, taniwha, tikoloshe, tizheruk, tuyewera, and xtabay

For most of those that's true, this list wasn't originally meant for this thread but for my own project, which contained many Pathfinder creatures. I tried to edit them out, but I didn't catch them all.

Al is a creature from Arabic folklore, not the Ala (Hala).
Asanbosam in myth is very different from Pathfinder's Sabosan, but the name was partially changed so we can still use it.
Mythical Fuaths are very different from Pathfinder Fuaths.
Barometz, Fachen, Kapre, Lukwata, Manitou, Sagari, Sepid, Shedu, Siyokoy, and Xtabay are errors on my part.
I don't have access to most Adventure Paths (I'm just starting college and broke.)
I assume that Edimmu, Fext, Gidim, Impundulu, Kijimuna, Ovinnik, Soucouyant, Sruvara, Taniwha, Tikoloshe, Tizheruk, and Tuyewara must be from them. For most of those I didn't know that.
Thanks for the clarification though.
Yes most are in adventure path bestiaries. But the soucouyant is in bestiary 4 as blood hag. Isnt taniwha the same as the disease dragon from bestiary 4?

Taniwha is absolutely nothing like the Taniniver. They are a diverse group of reptilian/dragonlike nature spirits from Maori folklore, with, as far as I know, nothing to do with disease ridden creatures. I hadn't made the connection between Soucouyants and Blood Hags, but since it's name isn't Soucouyant, I'm going to leave it.


Soucouyant is also in another paizo product but for bestiary 4 they changed the name to blood hag.

I cant acces my pdfs here in spain and i dislike the disease dragon so i wasnt sure about its name


The most mysterious creature in all mythology is by far the elusive Celtic Arrach!!

The name sounds arachnid-like and it is spectral. Would a spectral spider monster make sense?


Tanniver actually derives from middle-eastern folklore/myth, so it is different.

also not sure if I recall Tuyewara in anything, although I don't even recognize that monster


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The Evil Queen wrote:

The most mysterious creature in all mythology is by far the elusive Celtic Arrach!!

The name sounds arachnid-like and it is spectral. Would a spectral spider monster make sense?

Maybe a spectral Chitine or Ettercap. They were described as humanoids.


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I'm still working through the thread (mainly to capture all the requested monsters for the monster design competition posted in the superstar general discussion thread), but I am building a monster index in excel linking all the bestiaries, AP's, modules, companions etc, logging where each monster and all its variations can be found.

It's a very basic spreadsheet, and I am up to May 16 :( - long way to go yet on this thread... but is this of use to this thread as a general go to check list? If so, I will keep it shared and updated over the next few days to catch up.


Aberrations

There. The entire bestiary could be nothing but something out of a Lovecraft novel or something out of a James Jacobs campaign (or slew of them).


If I was going to have an entire Bestiary of one creature type I would have fey. Though a book of mostly elementals with some other outsiders that are not demons/devils like celestials, proteans, inevitables, aeons, oni, azura, and qlippoth.


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If I were to have a book of all one type, it would be magical beasts. "Magical Beast" really just means animal like monster, so there is virtually no limit to what could be done with them. Though Fey would be a good second choice, as long as 90% or so of them come from mythology. There are so many awesome mythic creatures that could be interpreted as Fey. Though I'd want twenty percent or less of them to look near human, we need more Nuckalavee, Ankou, etc. type fey.


My favorite types are:
From favorite to least favorite

Magical beast
Fey
Aberration (non lovecraft)
Plant
Outsiders and elementals
Undead
Monsterous humanoids
Dragons (but only those from myths i hate the d&d dragons)
Ooze
Vermin
Construct (robots are below humanoids)
Beast (only dinos and megafauna)
Humanoid (really dont care about playable races)(giants are monsterous humanoids for me)


Well if I did choose creatures for a book of fey they would be 90% from myth.

I could also see a book of magical beast or plants.

If they did a book of animals I would say about half of them would be made up animals. I also count vermin as being animals for the purpose of this book.

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Anthony Adam wrote:

I'm still working through the thread (mainly to capture all the requested monsters for the monster design competition posted in the superstar general discussion thread), but I am building a monster index in excel linking all the bestiaries, AP's, modules, companions etc, logging where each monster and all its variations can be found.

It's a very basic spreadsheet, and I am up to May 16 :( - long way to go yet on this thread... but is this of use to this thread as a general go to check list? If so, I will keep it shared and updated over the next few days to catch up.

I appreciate any and all attempts to collect and organize the data in this thread. :)


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Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:

I've been working on consolidating all of my monster wishes into one giant list. I haven't added descriptions yet (I will), but here it is:

1. Aatxe
2. Abaasy
3. Abada
4. Abura Sumashi
5. Achelous
6. Achiyalabopa
7. Achkay
8. Adjule
9. Adroanzi
10. Adze
11. Aeternae
12. Afanc
13. Aglebemu
14. Agloolik
15. Agrios
16. Ah Muzen Cab
17. Ahool
18. Ahuehuetl
19. Aigamuxa
20. Aipalookvik
...

[A LOT MORE]

Wow. That's... an impressive list.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
Anthony Adam wrote:

I'm still working through the thread (mainly to capture all the requested monsters for the monster design competition posted in the superstar general discussion thread), but I am building a monster index in excel linking all the bestiaries, AP's, modules, companions etc, logging where each monster and all its variations can be found.

It's a very basic spreadsheet, and I am up to May 16 :( - long way to go yet on this thread... but is this of use to this thread as a general go to check list? If so, I will keep it shared and updated over the next few days to catch up.

I appreciate any and all attempts to collect and organize the data in this thread. :)

No problem, you should know me by now from the superstar threads that I share anything remotely useful :)


You know this wish list has gotten so big we might want to rename it the Bestiary 5, 6, 7, etc. wish list;)


Dragon78 wrote:
You know this wish list has gotten so big we might want to rename it the Bestiary 5, 6, 7, etc. wish list;)

More Encyclopedia than Bestiary.


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I am now up to November 2013 lol - and I have had to split the D column of the spreadsheet into D, Daemons & Demons, Dragons & Drakes

and there are well over 100 entries in all 3 columns !

You guys and gals sure love your demon lords :P


well I just treat it as "future Bestiary" wishlist anyway


I cant remember many pro demon lord fans in this topic? Most wanted less demons as far as i remember.


Fewer demonlords more demigods of other outsider types.


I don't remember that many pro demon/demon lord wishes. I remember a lot more pro more proteans, inevitables, celestials, etc.


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Yeah, All the demon lords have been requested 4 or 5 at a time in posts spread out from May 2013 to Dec 2013 (so far). There were a couple were the posters said that "all these devils in product xyz are viable open content" listing 20 or more at a time, so that's where the bulk came from.

I haven't added the summary items "more protean", "more celestials" yet as I was hanging on in the hope of hitting actual lists of creatures in those groups - where posters list the individual creatures, I can list them too ;)

I still have approximately the last 10 months of posts to work through though, so the lists continue to grow (I just hit a part of the thread where posters were listing all the "not done" demons, demon lords, dragons etc, so they filled out pretty quickly).

I don't have a lot of spare time, so going through the thread AND adding all the modules, APs, settings, companions, etc as I find them, is going to keep me busy for a week or more yet. Just keep an eye on the share and you will see everything going in that I can find - it goes black if someone requests something that already exists in a bestiary 1-4, red means it's still a viable wish (as far as I can tell).

I think I finished updating tonight on posts dated early December 2013, and the posts had moved into lists of world wide myths and folklore creatures, so you will find for example that the Yokai, Spawns of Tiamat, Lycanthrope, Hengeyokai, Golem, Great Old Ones, Colossi, Angel and Agathion lists have grown some, and scanning the next few pages of thread posts, its looking like they will some more yet.

I'm just bunging the requests in as I work through, I will consolidate duplicates nearer the end as I just want to get all the data into the sheet first, so bear with me.

When I get to the last few pages of the thread, I will say so, so that everyone has the chance to scan the compiled list and let me know if I missed any and how they would like them listed :)


I probably should have mentioned before, but there is a file up on dropbox that is linked here that is an attempt at compiling all the monsters. It's formatted completely differently than your though. If that helps look in April 2014 or so for the link


MMCJawa wrote:

Tanniver actually derives from middle-eastern folklore/myth, so it is different.

also not sure if I recall Tuyewara in anything, although I don't even recognize that monster

Tuyewera appeared in AP #37 Bestiary (Serpent's Skull, Souls for Smuggler's Shiv.) It's a pretty gnarly CR 4 undead that I'm hoping to use in my next campaign.


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I have finally gotten through all the 2013 posts in this thread, the spreadsheet is looking wickedly full already - but I still have 8 more months of posts to catch up with. The previous share links should all point to the updated sheet :)

I managed to get through another 8 modules last night as well, so I have now worked through about a quarter of the modules adding those to the list.

Hope you are finding it useful - it's certainly given me quite a few ideas for monsters to design :)


Well good luck Anthony, this is a lot of stuff to look through, that is for sure.

I would like to see better art for the Tuyewera.

"Future Bestiary wish list" would make sense to me as well.


About the monster contest. Where does it say you can't do a creature that you requested? J cant find that.


I would love to see more templates and variants, like we had in savage species. Multi headed templates, chimeric templates, lernaean creatures, farspawn creatures, etc.

There is so much that could be expanded on such as the burning skeleton, bloody skeleton and other variants...these could be expanded into entire realms of variant undead or other creatures.

I don't want just new creatures, I want to be able to extensively modify old creatures with new abilities and templates.


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MMCJawa wrote:
I probably should have mentioned before, but there is a file up on dropbox that is linked here that is an attempt at compiling all the monsters. It's formatted completely differently than your though. If that helps look in April 2014 or so for the link

Cool, I can cross reference with mine in case I missed anything, I'm almost done for all the January posts now, and have put in all Paizo modules "New Monsters" appendices for modules up to December 2013 - so the AP's will start being added next :)


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Odraude wrote:
About the monster contest. Where does it say you can't do a creature that you requested? J cant find that.

I don't think it did, check the competition main page and click the FAQ link, it might have been added since I looked.

These are the only "rules" I can see...

Contest Rules
• Rule 1: The word limit is 700 words. Each entrant may submit one monster. The monster should be presented in Pathfinder format, a template for which can be found below. Monster creation guidelines are given here.
• Rule 2: The deadline is 2 p.m. PST (5 p.m. EST) Saturday, Sept. 13.
• Rule 3: The monster must have been requested on the Bestiary 5 wish list thread on Paizo.com.
• Rule 4: The entry cannot be or use a monster template (fiendish, lich, and so on).
• Rule 5: Entry cannot have class levels.
• Rule 6: Entries must be submitted via email to monster.design.contest@gmail.com. Include the monster's name in the subject line of the email.
• Rule 7: All entries remain the intellectual property of their authors.

Timeline
• Aug 23: The contest begins! The open call is open for three weeks.
• Sept 13: Submissions are closed. Our judges (Mikko Kallio, Mike Kimmel & Jacob W Michaels) convene to determine the top 5.
• Sept 20: Entries are narrowed down to top 5. Our guest judge Sean K Reynolds starts commenting on the top 5 entries.
• Sept 27: The top 5 entries are revealed along with comments from Sean, Mikko, Mike and Jacob. Public voting begins.
• Oct 4: The voting ends and the winner is revealed shortly after!

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16

Odraude wrote:
About the monster contest. Where does it say you can't do a creature that you requested? J cant find that.

Here


Tragedy. I really wanted to Stat my Taino monsters. But I'll still give this a chance.


I would like 5 new psychic dragons such as astral, chakra, dream, esper, and spirit.

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Anthony Adam wrote:

I have finally gotten through all the 2013 posts in this thread, the spreadsheet is looking wickedly full already - but I still have 8 more months of posts to catch up with. The previous share links should all point to the updated sheet :)

I managed to get through another 8 modules last night as well, so I have now worked through about a quarter of the modules adding those to the list.

Hope you are finding it useful - it's certainly given me quite a few ideas for monsters to design :)

You might get to it on the second run, but on Dec 11/13 I mentioned a request for the Godflesh Golem. I repeated the request in Aug 2014. Just making note as I didn't see it on the compiled list.


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Yup, it's in the golems (A-L) column, row 48 at time of posting this message (as more golems get requested/added, it may move down a few rows).

All the golems are grouped together as the name is most like to appear in a bestiary, e.g. instead of "Godflesh Golem", it is listed as "Golem, Godflesh" so if you are looking for anything you request, do check the last word as well as alphabetically :)

Progress continues:
760k extracted text left to scan through to get to my first post on page 50 of this thread - getting there.

Modules have now been incorporated and I have made a start on the AP's - I swap between the thread text and products so I get some variety in this ;)

Grand Lodge

Anthony Adam wrote:

Yup, it's in the golems (A-L) column, row 48 at time of posting this message (as more golems get requested/added, it may move down a few rows).

All the golems are grouped together as the name is most like to appear in a bestiary, e.g. instead of "Godflesh Golem", it is listed as "Golem, Godflesh" so if you are looking for anything you request, do check the last word as well as alphabetically :)

I know how to look stuff up that's categorized, I just don't see it. I must be clicking on an old link because it goes Frost-Forged Steel at the end of page 11 and then Malachite on page 12. The one I'm on seems to skip G to L.


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Ahhh, are you looking a kind of preview mode which is paged? There should be an "open" link at the top I think that opens the whole spreadsheet in google docs.

I'll double check my link is still working. Back in a sec.

Yup. It opens fine on my chrome. If you are getting just pages rather than a single spreadsheet sheet, try the download link and open in excel or open office or similar.

It should be viewable as a single spreadsheet without paging.


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Just in case, here is the link again, it seems to be the same.

Grand Lodge

Anthony Adam wrote:
Just in case, here is the link again, it seems to be the same.

The link ended up being different than the one I had originally used, so I got a different version, and this one had the Godflesh on it. Downloaded it as well.


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Cool, I'll include the link each time I post an update then, maybe google docs is updating it whenever the file is updated :(


Wow, nice list, see I told you we have enough creatures to fill multiple hardcover bestiaries.


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If anyone checks the spreadsheet over the next couple of days, I am reorganizing it a little, splitting the bestiary numbers from the modules/APs/source books so that it is a lot easier to see what's in a bestiary and what is elsewhere - this means it is getting re-saved in a semi formatted state for the next day or so.

This also means that we also have a small column being added which will allow us to mark requests as "IP/Copyrighted" so we know which requests are most unlikely/never to happen (e.g Doc Who/Star Trek/Star Wars).

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