A Paladin and an Anti-Paladin walk into a party...


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Can this work without one killing the other or falling? I know Paladins can work with evil sometimes.

Grand Lodge

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No.


It can but its not exactly the best thing to do if only for group cohesion. Some players overreact and even without being provoked try and oppress the supposed evil or good guys.

Edit: I really suggest against it.

Lantern Lodge

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When a paladin and an antipaladin come into contact with each other, they annihilate each other, releasing magical energy proportional to their combined CR.


If it works, it is very bad roleplay. Not sure about the paladin being able to work with evil of any degree, but working with an evil the degree of an anti-paladin would be about the same as cooperating with a demon.

Dark Archive

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The Anti-Paladin is a succubus that seduces the Paladin and they have a Neutral child known as the One. He leads the people of Zion out of the Matrix.


Assuming the Anti-Paladin comes equipped with alignment hiding spells and is intelligent enough and practical enough to play a long game it could work. But any plan that would motivate an anti-paladin to work with a paladin would almost certainly end in either pvp, the paladin falling or the anti-paladin hightailing it once he has got what he wanted (killing a powerful rival,corrupting/framing the party etc).

Silver Crusade

Dakota_Strider wrote:
If it works, it is very bad roleplay. Not sure about the paladin being able to work with evil of any degree, but working with an evil the degree of an anti-paladin would be about the same as cooperating with a demon.

Angels work with devils and demons to protect the stream of souls from daemons. And Sarenrae herself worked with Asmodeus, along iwth a ton of other allied gods, to seal away Rovagug.

It could happen, but the circumstances involved are going to be highly unusual.


I'd argue for it being possible in a one-off or fairly short campaign, going off of what Nimon said up there, but it'd require some fantastic and ridiculously vigilant roleplaying on the part of the Anti-Paladin.

Anti-Paladins aren't against using deception to buckle the foundations of law/good from within. Where the Paladin's code forbids them from doing evil for the greater good, Anti-Paladins are explicitly allowed to do good if it serves a greater, evil purpose.

Assuming the Anti-Paladin is an excellent liar decked out with all sorts of protections from divination, he could absolutely lie his way into working with a Paladin, though the longer this goes on without either A: The Paladin catching on and trying to stop the Anti-Paladin, or B: The Anti-Paladin enacting his grand, evil scheme, the further you'd have to stretch your suspension of disbelief.


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Nimon wrote:


The Anti-Paladin is a succubus that seduces the Paladin and they have a Neutral child known as the One. He leads the people of Zion out of the Matrix.

Ergo, vis-à-vis, concordantly it is interesting reading your reactions. The five predecessors were, by design, based on a similar predication: a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of their species, facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-à-vis: love.

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