I've been thinking about the red mantis assassin's and I was wondering. is there a good example of how one would behave and act, or how one would behave? and how would one become a red mantis assassin. I mean the information about them seems to imply that they all have almost a hive mind. they all the same view regarding assassinating monarchs and they seem to all worship Achaekek for some reason.
I guess I naturally imagine the best assassins ever to be slightly stormtrooper-ish. Shinobi like beings with little to no emotion. I don't know if theres information i'm missing but yeah, what makes a red mantis assassin.
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The Serpent's Skull AP features a Red Mantis NPC and has a little background information. I am not sure where else they come up ...
I think of them similar to a Warhammer 40k Deathcult. Replace God Emperor with Acheakek.
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I guess I naturally imagine the best assassins ever to be slightly stormtrooper-ish. Shinobi like beings with little to no emotion.
I would argue they should be extremely emotional - and hence, impossible to reason with and easy to keep controlled by and loyal to that hivemind you mentioned.
I'd like to imagine they behave like Batman villains
why a wide range of psychosis there haha.
I would argue they should be extremely emotional - and hence, impossible to reason with and easy to keep controlled by and loyal to that hivemind you mentioned.
I guess I naturally imagine the best assassins ever to be slightly stormtrooper-ish. Shinobi like beings with little to no emotion.
or you could be a complete emotionless killing machine, with all free will in you killed long ago, hence unable to be reasoned with lol.
in all seriousness though. they seem to be this big impressive organisation but there seems to be very little information about them available besides the basics. I guess this is to allow players to play them as they see fit but from my point of view, it doesn't seem like much to go off if I was interested in playing a RMA.
The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.
Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them.
The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.
Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them. (also I should mention I'm playing Skull and shackles and if information about them is in the spoiler territory I'd rather not know haha)
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I'd like to imagine they behave like Batman villains
I like to imagine they behave more like a LE Batman.
Deadly, murderous Batmans.Honestly, I think the Vigilante class will best serve Mantises.
Batman has Bruce Wayne, mild mannered billionaire by day.
The Red Mantis has her street persona, her everyday Jane Doe on the street.
Batman is...Batman by night; single minded crime fighter.
The Red Mantis drops her street persona and becomes a single minded killer when she picks up the saber.
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They're basically a religous cult of assassins. The origin of the term asssasin itself is from the Nizari branch of Ismaili Muslims at the time of the Crusades, when the newly established sect ruled part of northern Persia (1094–1256). They were renowned as militant fanatics, and were popularly reputed to use hashish before going on murder missions.
Well, being Paizo's Creative Director and one of Golarion's creators, James is the source ;)
I was pointing out that researching the historical cult of Assasins may provide roleplaying clues to playing a Red Mantis as they seem very simmilar in outlook.
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Well, being Paizo's Creative Director and one of Golarion's creators, James is the source ;)I was pointing out that researching the historical cult of Assasins may provide roleplaying clues to playing a Red Mantis as they seem very simmilar in outlook.
I think he was talking to BlackJack Weasel with that comment :-P
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Well, being Paizo's Creative Director and one of Golarion's creators, James is the source ;)
yeah, didn't realise until after I posted. Feel kinda like a dingbat now. Although I'm still struggling to understand them.
Well, being Paizo's Creative Director and one of Golarion's creators, James is the source ;)yeah, didn't realise until after I posted. Feel kinda like a dingbat now. Although I'm still struggling to understand them.
It's not that hard. A RM Assassin looks down on other assassins as mere mercenary killers. For her each mission is a sacred task done in the name of the Red Mantis god. IF you want more detail, try researching the Muslim cult I mentioned earlier.
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I'm not sure if you have looked at it already, but the Wiki has some information about the organization as a whole and where you can find said information. It doesn't necessarily talk about how individual assassins may act, but maybe it could help you in inferring what members may act like and what ideals they may have.
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The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them.
I do. They're from my home campaign. I invented them about 15 to 20 years ago (not sure how long it's been to be honest), and have worked very closely with authors in building them up. I've also tried to keep them pretty close to me as well, since I do have plans to do more with them, which means that they're not quite as well-detailed as they would have been had I been less greedy and let anyone run with them.
The best source at this point is Pathfinder #9, which has a big article about them, but the upcoming Inner Sea Faiths has an article about Achaekek that I wrote that has more info about them.
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I do. They're from my home campaign.
Soooo many good things come from that place.
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They're still people, even if they're hired killers and worshipers of a giant Evil insect.
They could be ultra-serious badasses who consider every kill a climax of religious euphoria treated with the utmost reverence...
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The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them.I do. They're from my home campaign. I invented them about 15 to 20 years ago (not sure how long it's been to be honest), and have worked very closely with authors in building them up. I've also tried to keep them pretty close to me as well, since I do have plans to do more with them, which means that they're not quite as well-detailed as they would have been had I been less greedy and let anyone run with them.
The best source at this point is Pathfinder #9, which has a big article about them, but the upcoming Inner Sea Faiths has an article about Achaekek that I wrote that has more info about them.
I won't lie, I have been waiting years to have a "Path of the Hellknight" type book come out for Red Mantis Assassins. They are tied with the Hellknights as my favorite Golarion unique faction. Would love to see more of their history, inner workings and yes, more archetypes like the warpriest mantis zealot to go along with it.
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I won't lie, I have been waiting years to have a "Path of the Hellknight" type book come out for Red Mantis Assassins. They are tied with the Hellknights as my favorite Golarion unique faction. Would love to see more of their history, inner workings and yes, more archetypes like the warpriest mantis zealot to go along with it.The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them.I do. They're from my home campaign. I invented them about 15 to 20 years ago (not sure how long it's been to be honest), and have worked very closely with authors in building them up. I've also tried to keep them pretty close to me as well, since I do have plans to do more with them, which means that they're not quite as well-detailed as they would have been had I been less greedy and let anyone run with them.
The best source at this point is Pathfinder #9, which has a big article about them, but the upcoming Inner Sea Faiths has an article about Achaekek that I wrote that has more info about them.
A "Path of the Red Mantis" book would be incredible, but it's one of a few books that I'd never want to let anyone else write... and my writing time has been a tricky thing to manage.
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A "Path of the Red Mantis" book would be incredible, but it's one of a few books that I'd never want to let anyone else write... and my writing time has been a tricky thing to manage.I won't lie, I have been waiting years to have a "Path of the Hellknight" type book come out for Red Mantis Assassins. They are tied with the Hellknights as my favorite Golarion unique faction. Would love to see more of their history, inner workings and yes, more archetypes like the warpriest mantis zealot to go along with it.The Red Mantis assassins are indeed emotional... not out-of-control passionate, but they're absolutely not divorced from their feelings.Do you have a source? I'm honestly not accusing you of being wrong but I want to gain as much information as I can about them.I do. They're from my home campaign. I invented them about 15 to 20 years ago (not sure how long it's been to be honest), and have worked very closely with authors in building them up. I've also tried to keep them pretty close to me as well, since I do have plans to do more with them, which means that they're not quite as well-detailed as they would have been had I been less greedy and let anyone run with them.
The best source at this point is Pathfinder #9, which has a big article about them, but the upcoming Inner Sea Faiths has an article about Achaekek that I wrote that has more info about them.
This is when we all kneel down to the Great Mantis to open up enough time to allow you to write it. I know it would be greatly appreciated by not just myself but thousands of other fans. And by appreciated I do mean in the strictest "please take my money!" sense...
LOL - I would agree that detailing out some of the major factions like the Red Mantis (beyond just the brief over views we are getting these days), the Hell Knights, the Crusaders War College of Lastwall, etc would be awesome and really help connect the dots around Golarion.
And "agree" I mean in that "take my money" sort of agreement too! :)