Rasputin Must Die! [Spoilers]


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Atrocious wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Atrocious wrote:
What is this obsession with Nikola Tesla anyway? Tesla wasn't Russian, he was Serbian, and he immigrated to the United States in 1884, where he lived the remainder of his life. During WW1 he was working on a cross Atlantic radio tower in New York state (The Wardenclyffe facility, aka. the Tesla Tower), which ultimately failed and was demolished in 1917. As far as I know he never had any involvement with Russia or WW1 at any point in his life.
Invented Alternating Current. More importantly, came up with a bunch of really cool ideas that 'spark' the imagination. :)

Alternating current was known way before Tesla came along, he did however invent an AC transformer.

I'm an engineer, so insane and dangerous experiments with electricity is just a part of my day job, so I guess it's just too everyday for me to feel the childlike glee you guys do at the thought of electrocuting everyone within a large radius. Ahh, to be young again for just one day...

Technological stormbolts for everyone!! ^____^

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I fondly remember, due to my high pain threshold and tolerance for electricity, taking hold of the ball of the Van de Graaf generator in my high school chemistry class and shooting lightning bolts out of my finger like Zeus at kids around the class.

Good times.


why tesla? simple- he's weird and all powerful. If somebody said "tesla invented an invisiblilty machine that worked by bending electical waves" most people would wonder why it was not available on the open market- we would not question if it was true or not. He invented stupidly cool stuff all the time. WHy put him in Siberia? why the heck not? he obviously went to look at the tunguska region that he destroyed years before. Maybe he wants to get rare siberian grain for his pigeon fiancee (seriously- he was in love with a pigeon.)

Tesla was friends with Mark Twain, and was acquainted with Houdini who was friends with Ted Roosavelt


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I think a good enough justification for getting Teddy Roosevelt there would be "wants to punch russion bears with lightning fists made by Tesla".

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This Tesla/Twain talk coupled with Teddy Roosevelt MANLINESS forces me to once again recommend Five Fists of Science to anyone and everyone.

(unless you're an Edison loyalist...in which case you may want Tales from the Bully Pulpit instead)

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Forgive me, as I'm not American, but what makes Roosevelt so exciting?

As far as I'm aware (and I don't know much) he's just another rich, opportunist politician.


GeraintElberion wrote:

Forgive me, as I'm not American, but what makes Roosevelt so exciting?

As far as I'm aware (and I don't know much) he's just another rich, opportunist politician.

Not even close.

Off the top of my head...

  • Reformed the NYPD in 2 years as comissioner;
  • As president established meat quality and other food-related work standards;
  • Established the National Park Service as I understand it;
  • other points of interest to be found here on Wikipedia.

The man was a turn of the 20th century nerd that made himself bad-ass. :)

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If you're familiar with the Team Fortress 2 Mythos, imagine an American Saxton Hale.

Also.

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Mikaze appears to be voting for Putin...

police reform, food quality, forests: I'm not feeling the awesome.


GeraintElberion wrote:

Mikaze appears to be voting for Putin...

police reform, food quality, forests: I'm not feeling the awesome.

Wiki linky clicky and reading works wonders.

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Well, first Here's Teddy riding a moose in a river. He also has his face carved into a mountain (third from left). He was also an avid hunter and outdoorsman, but what I like about the guy is that he was shot while campaiging and after determining that since he wasn't coughing up blood, he was probably fine, so he continued.

Of course, we're getting off topic. No Roosevelt in this AP.


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"Death had to take him sleeping, for if Roosevelt had been awake, there would have been a fight."
— Vice President Thomas Marshall


GeraintElberion wrote:

Mikaze appears to be voting for Putin...

police reform, food quality, forests: I'm not feeling the awesome.

GE I am guessing you are a Pom... Teddy is to the Yanks what Wellington (Irish btw) or Churchill is to the English.

Churchill would probably make a good NPC as he is serving on the western front after his balls up with the Dardenelles....


I think you've got the wrong Churchill in mind 8th Dwarf...

Who we need is Fighting Jack Churchill... but unfortunately he fought in the second world war and not the first.


Mark Sweetman wrote:

I think you've got the wrong Churchill in mind 8th Dwarf...

Who we need is Fighting Jack Churchill... but unfortunately he fought in the second world war and not the first.

Winston could get stuck in and pre- WWI he served in Africa...

I think Winston is overrated as a military (strategic) leader. The Dardenelles, then his meddling in North Africa in WWII cost a quick victory, the Greece, Crete and Singapore disasters are all down to him.


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Teddy Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen together.

They originated the "Fastball Special" made famous by Wolverine and Colossus in 1917; Winston Churchill threw Roosevelt at Felix Graf von Luckner's ship the Seeadler, ramming it with his adamantine teeth and thus sinking the German Privateer's windjammer.

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Then there's that time Teddy and I hunted Jelly Belly for Big Top Candy Shop on the Serengeti in 1906.


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Cheapy wrote:
While the adventures page won't be up for a while yet, something very interesting was released last night: Reign of Winter Item Cards.

Corrected that Link for you.

And yes, it is beginning to look like this may be THE Rasputin.

I find this very cool indeed! :)

Rasputin? thats sounds cool!!

maybe he would be a Wizard with a python snake as familiar (if u know what i mean)

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Plus it's very easy to use TR as a stock character: You just talk a lot about your hunting exploits and occasionally exclaim "Bully!"

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If this thread goes on long enough, could we get stats for Teddy and Tesla written up in a web enhancement to be a bonus encounter?

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Trinite wrote:
If this thread goes on long enough, could we get stats for Teddy and Tesla written up in a web enhancement to be a bonus encounter?

Not from us. It's not relevant to the adventure.

However, the internet creates what the internet creates. This community is good for that. :)


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I think this article gives a good indication why people consider Teddy Roosevelt to be a bad-ass.

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Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.


thejeff wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:

The thing to keep in mind as a prospective purchaser is that you're going to 1918 SIBERIA - early, in the winter at a guess. Nasty business all the way 'round. Siberia was not (to my limited knowledge) a major or even a minor front of World War I as far as participatory nations. (As far as the Whites vs. Reds in Russia, that's another matter altogether.)

And it could be a LOT worse ... you could be going there in 1908 instead. *grins*

Things I didn't know until today
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The joint Allied intervention began in August 1918. The Japanese entered through Vladivostok and points along the Manchurian border with more than 70,000 Japanese troops being involved. The deployment of a large force for a rescue expedition made the Allies wary of Japanese intentions. On September 5, the Japanese linked up with the vanguard of the Czech Legion. A few days later the British, Italian and French contingents joined the Czechs in an effort to re-establish the east Front beyond the Urals; as a result the European allies trekked westwards. The Japanese, with their own objectives in mind, refused to proceed west of Lake Baikal and stayed behind. The Americans, suspicious of Japanese intentions, also stayed behind to keep an eye on the Japanese. By November, the Japanese occupied all ports and major towns in the Russian Maritime Provinces and in Siberia east of the city of Chita.

In the summer of 1918 onwards, the Japanese army lent its support to White Russian elements; the 5th infantry division and the Japanese-backed Special Manchurian Detachment of Grigory Semyonov took control over Transbaikalia and founded a short-lived White Transbaikalia government.

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Uh, dude, what do you think I've been trying to tell you all this time?

Turin the Mad wrote:
I'm shocked nobody has mentioned Nikola Tesla yet. ^^
In certain "alternate histories", Tesla is responsible for the Tunguska 'event' by way of field testing a certain device/weapon of his. Rather severely off-target, the device was shelved for 'not producing the intended result' or somesuch, whereas there was simply no one around that survived when the 'event' occured.

There's a series of children's books that I read last year like that. They were fun...and they even have a trailer! Tesla doesn't show up until the third book though...


Atrocious wrote:
What is this obsession with Nikola Tesla anyway?

Link


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
Van de Graaf generator


GeraintElberion wrote:

Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.

They also named teddy bears after him. Don't remember that being mentioned. Do they have teddy bears in Britain, Geraint?


AC/DC


Anyway, in all seriousness:

This AP sounds awesome and I can't wait to read it!

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While at first raising an eyebrow at the premise, I'm interested in seeing it all played out. That, and involving the Hose(wo)man of War sounds great, too (WW's would definitely be up Szuriel's ally)!


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GeraintElberion wrote:

Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.

So I guess you don't play in fantasy roleplaying games where people often engage in mortal combat with monsters and evil NPCs? Because essentially, escapism like that is just the same as admiring a guy like Roosevelt for being a tough guy during his lifetime.

Take that beam out of your eye, please.


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GeraintElberion wrote:

Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.

Well, he did do a lot of Trust-Busting (populist anti-monopoly term of the time) and greatly expanded the National Parks.

But yes, It's Teddy Roosevelt the Rough Rider who gets the attention.


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GeraintElberion wrote:

Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.

Frankly, a guy like that - no-nonsense, straightforward, no doubletalk, and if you don't like how he was you could just deal with it - would be a refreshing change from the swindlers we have for leaders these days.


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^ Which is the reason for the admiration, GeraintElberion. This is the type of people we desperately need.


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GeraintElberion wrote:
Forgive me, as I'm not American, but what makes Roosevelt so exciting?

He taught Chuck Norris how to fight.

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All the politics got this thread off topic; I can understand HOW it got off topic... but now that it is...

Please divert the politics chatter to a discussion in the off-topic section of these boards, and let's leave this thread focused on the Adventure Path volume. Thanks!


Can we still link Musical Interludes about Electricity?

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Orthos wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:

Ah, right, I did read the wiki and still didn't get it but it seems like my flippant comment to Mikaze was right: he's not celebrated for making great reforms or anything like that, everyone just wants to point out that he was a tough, manly-man guy.

The Putin electoral strategy.

I don't really get that whole thing: people who just want to be (or even are) defined as TOUGH GUYS just seem like they're trapped in the mental state of childish, immature 19-year olds, fascinated and thrilled by their own virility without ever recognising the hollow narcissism of that attitude.

I'm not saying that the real Roosevelt was like that, I don't know enough about him, but that is the version of him which is being celebrated when I would expect people to look down on that as rather silly and immature.

Frankly, a guy like that - no-nonsense, straightforward, no doubletalk, and if you don't like how he was you could just deal with it - would be a refreshing change from the swindlers we have for leaders these days.

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My experience is that most politicians like that are just swindling cheats who want to get 'the common man' on-side. It's how GWBush will be remembered in 100 years time.

It's a strategy that dates back to Ancient Athens, at least.

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magnuskn wrote:
Take that beam out of your eye, please.

We're all hypocrites, it's the human condition. So, it turns out we're sharing the beam: cute!

Doesn't make us wrong, doesn't make us bad people. I'm cool with being a hypocrite because the alternative (death) doesn't sound like much fun.

Anyway, you're missing the point: I don't know about your fantasy heroes but mine kickass due to a moral imperative. That's what makes them heroes.

Maybe Roosevelt was a beacon of morality who only fought just wars, I don't know. But the vibe I've got about him is: "Yay, tough!" rather than, "Yay, noble!"

If there is one thing I know about ancient photos it is that Roosevelt on a beast in a river was a posed, set-up shot. Honestly, politicians!

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The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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You better checkity-check yourself before you wreckity-wreck yourself!

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I honestly have no real opinion about Theodore Roosevelt, I'm just processing the signals that are transmitted.


Swinging this back around to the original topic.

I have stood next to some imposing WWI Tanks.

The only surviving German A7V a Renault FT, and a British Mark V.


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World War One is one the parts of history I find the most fascinating, the first 18 years of the 20th Century sets up the remaining 82.

Some things to look up is the Sinai-Palestine campaign, The 100 days offensive and the Allied intervention in the Russian Revolution.


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GeraintElberion wrote:
magnuskn wrote:
Take that beam out of your eye, please.

We're all hypocrites, it's the human condition. So, it turns out we're sharing the beam: cute!

Doesn't make us wrong, doesn't make us bad people. I'm cool with being a hypocrite because the alternative (death) doesn't sound like much fun.

Anyway, you're missing the point: I don't know about your fantasy heroes but mine kickass due to a moral imperative. That's what makes them heroes.

I mostly object to how you were clearly engaging in some holier-than-thou'ism with fellow gamers, just because we don't hit that note you espouse in the same way that you'd want us to. It's unbecoming and marks you as less than a gentleman in your dealings with us. Or something like that. ;)


More AC/DC


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Some good podcasts to listen to are The Russian History Podcast and the When Diplomacy Fails Podcast.

Sczarni

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So yeah...the AP chapter...it's gonna be awesome.

Silver Crusade

GeraintElberion wrote:

Mikaze appears to be voting for Putin...

When it comes to Russian ideologies and individuals, I'm more of a supporter of POOTIS.


more AC/DC!if you please Mr Doodlebug.


Certainly, Mr. Selunatic.

Liberty's Edge

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I was interested in this AP... until I found out about this steamy load.

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