Someone is able to edit the Guide to the Class Guides sticky over in Advice, so that should still be possible.
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Not to be obtuse, but isn't that what the FAQ is for? Message board clarifications are just for new questions. If a clarification is important enough to be distributed to the general community, then it will be added to the FAQ, so we really only need to worry about newer stuff that hasn't been added to the FAQ yet.
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Not to be obtuse, but isn't that what the FAQ is for? Message board clarifications are just for new questions. If a clarification is important enough to be distributed to the general community, then it will be added to the FAQ, so we really only need to worry about newer stuff that hasn't been added to the FAQ yet.
The FAQ is a document that should not get bloated with corner case clarifications. If it is a big enough clarification, it will get seen in the FAQ. Those clarifications not deemed widely-effecting enough, will remain as message board clarifications.
Otherwise you’ll end up with a FAQ hundreds of pages long.
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As Andrew said, how effective do you want the FAQ to be? It takes me five minutes to add a question to it. But, if it becomes an FAQ with 250 clarifications that affect less than 1% of the playerbase, do you really want to make it ineffective to use due to size? Most clarifications, from what I've seen, are very character specific, not general rules that affect the playerbase at large.
how effective do you want the FAQ to be? It takes me five minutes to add a question to it. But, if it becomes an FAQ with 250 clarifications that affect less than 1% of the playerbase, do you really want to make it ineffective to use due to size? Most clarifications, from what I've seen, are very character specific, not general rules that affect the playerbase at large.
How about an IAQ then? (Infrequently Asked Questions)
Searching through a document of nothing but official responses to corner cases would be a lot easier than searching through the message board history of six people. And it would clear up whether something someone said a couple years ago is considered official for the campaign (like this).
Number of "pages" are sort of meaningless in electronic format. Every browser has a 'find' function, and you could just print out the ones that are relevant to your character.
(My opinion is clearly on the far side of that of the general PFS board poster, so take it with a huge grain of salt)
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Could we get the list hosted on d20pfsrd.com? They already host an unofficial faq with a lot more corner cases in it (although it's for pathfinder in general rather than PFS) and have a PFS section already there.
Sure. Someone take charge and make it happen :-)
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Could we get the list hosted on d20pfsrd.com? They already host an unofficial faq with a lot more corner cases in it (although it's for pathfinder in general rather than PFS) and have a PFS section already there.
If someone wants to keep the list on the d20pfsrd site, then I wouldn’t see an issue with it.
However, I would warn anyone against using the d20psfrd site as a source while playing PFS.
1) It is a 3rd party site, with 3rd party information and I’ve already had at least one new player wanting to use 3rd party stuff for a PFS character, because it was on the d20PFSRD site.
2) The PRD is not a valid source for additional resource for players. As a GM, I let players use the PRD, as long as they have the watermarked PDF or hard copy. The PRD is much easier to search than wading through several books/PDFs.
So because it is a 3rd party site, I am not sure keeping this list on it sets a good precedent.
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But it isn't about the list being a primary source. It is about having a list that references all the buried threads with official posts from Mark and Mike. I wouldn't accept the list as official but it would let players / GMs find the correct official post quickly. Just like Jiggy posted originally but it needs to be in a format that can be edited and expanded as rules progress. Tim Shadow did an excellent job with the unofficial FAQ when he was keeping it up to date (unfortunately last updated a year ago). It was well organized by topic and included clarification posts made by developers to varying questions and when those posts became FAQed the question / answer was then referenced as Official.
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But it isn't about the list being a primary source. It is about having a list that references all the buried threads with official posts from Mark and Mike. I wouldn't accept the list as official but it would let players / GMs find the correct official post quickly. Just like Jiggy posted originally but it needs to be in a format that can be edited and expanded as rules progress. Tim Shadow did an excellent job with the unofficial FAQ when he was keeping it up to date (unfortunately last updated a year ago). It was well organized by topic and included clarification posts made by developers to varying questions and when those posts became FAQed the question / answer was then referenced as Official.
Well Mike seems to like the idea as long as someone else is doing it.
So perhaps my concerns are unfounded.
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Could we get the list hosted on d20pfsrd.com? They already host an unofficial faq with a lot more corner cases in it (although it's for pathfinder in general rather than PFS) and have a PFS section already there.If someone wants to keep the list on the d20pfsrd site, then I wouldn’t see an issue with it.
However, I would warn anyone against using the d20psfrd site as a source while playing PFS.
1) It is a 3rd party site, with 3rd party information and I’ve already had at least one new player wanting to use 3rd party stuff for a PFS character, because it was on the d20PFSRD site.
2) The PRD is not a valid source for additional resource for players. As a GM, I let players use the PRD, as long as they have the watermarked PDF or hard copy. The PRD is much easier to search than wading through several books/PDFs.So because it is a 3rd party site, I am not sure keeping this list on it sets a good precedent.
It does also clearly state what is 3rd party and also cites the source material for everything on there. It really is a great resource... but like anything it is prone to user error :D
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It does also clearly state what is 3rd party and also cites the source material for everything on there. It really is a great resource... but like anything it is prone to user error :D
I find people very frequently treat every word as being official Paizo content, even if it's a sidebar written by the d20pfsrd.com folks themselves.
For instance, they used to have a sidebar saying that a quicker way to calculate CMD was "CMB + DEX mod + 10", which works if you have no special/specific bonuses to CMB. But then people were thinking that if they took Agile Maneuvers (DEX instead of STR to CMB) that they could use that formula and end up with double DEX to CMD. People were treating fan-written shortcuts as official Pathfinder rules. (To the SRD folks' credit, they removed the confusing sidebar when I brought the issue to their attention.)
On another topic, someone cited a paragraph as being rules, and told me it was from the CRB (and mocked me and others for not knowing the rules). Turns out it was from d20pfsrd.com, appearing nowhere in anything ever published by Paizo. But it was on the same SRD page as Core rules on the topic, so they thought it was written by Paizo (and continued to mock anyone pointing out their error).
Point is, there's already a lot of confusion as to what is and is not official on d20pfsrd.com, so if something like this was done, it would need to be handled VERY carefully.
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How about just creating a list of relevant clarifying posts, using the list functionality built into this site? The only issue is that only one person would be able to update it.
I started something similar here but didn't have the time to continue it.
I think Jiggy has that too.
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Indeed, when I made this thread, I pulled all the links from one of my Lists.