Who is someone no one considered for the season opener mystery.
If they make felicity's mom some kind of secret assassin out to kill Lance, I may be done with the show.
I'm a bit annoyed at that (and making him dependent on killing them for his immortality) but it's not a deal-breaker. The actor is doing an ok job so far.
Agreed. Khufu/Carter, though...I'm with Cisco on this: "You're 0 for 206 and you still think you're her best option?" Know-it-all + serial failure is not a good combination.
It's also not clear what "power" of Savage's increases when he kills the Hawks. I can see absorbing their life force to extend his own lifespan; and that allows him more time to learn skills and accumulate wealth, but it seemed to me they meant more than that by "power", and I don't know what. Extra mana points? Increased hit points? Sure, he gets XP for killing them, but what do those XP translate into?
I'm a bit annoyed at that (and making him dependent on killing them for his immortality) but it's not a deal-breaker. The actor is doing an ok job so far.Agreed. Khufu/Carter, though...I'm with Cisco on this: "You're 0 for 206 and you still think you're her best option?" Know-it-all + serial failure is not a good combination.
It's also not clear what "power" of Savage's increases when he kills the Hawks. I can see absorbing their life force to extend his own lifespan; and that allows him more time to learn skills and accumulate wealth, but it seemed to me they meant more than that by "power", and I don't know what. Extra mana points? Increased hit points? Sure, he gets XP for killing them, but what do those XP translate into?
Why do they need that explained in the villain's introduction when they have a whole new TV show dedicated to exploring him?
Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...
Seriously, her first idea, killing themselves to destroy Vandal was worthy of more than his quick dismissal. Khufu, at least, doesn't seem to have learned ANYTHING!
My reaction was...%^$#!, Cisco's friend-zoned again!
Also, Barry really needs to learn to handle time paradoxes. Seriously, man, get with Rip or some other time traveler for some clues.
Ollie & his past...who didn't see that coming?
And finally...sigh..what the h-e-double hockey sticks is Malcolm up to now?
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I still hope if we meet Kendra's family, this woman plays her mom.
Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...
I'll actually say this was the most pleasant I've seen Carter in... forever!
Immortal characters are tough to play. He played him as kind of the confident guy who had seen it all and done it all... Wise but not arrogant. A fighter... but not super Rage beast.
most times I see Hawkman in the last decade or two, he's just a world class jerk who likes to hurt people... and picks weapons that will do it the most painfully.
This one they point out that they're superheroes because they like to help people. I think I'm gonna like this version.
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Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...
I'll actually say this was the most pleasant I've seen Carter in... forever!
Immortal characters are tough to play. He played him as kind of the confident guy who had seen it all and done it all... Wise but not arrogant. A fighter... but not super Rage beast.
most times I see Hawkman in the last decade or two, he's just a world class jerk who likes to hurt people... and picks weapons that will do it the most painfully.
This one they point out that they're superheroes because they like to help people. I think I'm gonna like this version.
The DCAU version wasn't too bad. I'd have loved to seen David Ramsey cameo as one of the guards in Egypt (since there's an online campaign to change John's last name from Diggle to Stewart.)
For real. I hated him there.
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DCAU Hall was a (probably) delusional stalker.
The ending with the two mummies left it open to me...
(If I recall correctly, Warhawk's Origin in Batman Beyond #4 (the real one, not the crappy version running now) did confirm Carter's story as true, and also explained Shadow Thief killed Mahri, with Shayera and John retiring after John broke the Green Lantern code to kill ST)
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While Thea annoyed me at first, the Merlyns have become my favorite part of the show. Between Thea becoming the deadpan snarker, Malcom's plotting and the twisted love between the two of them... I'm enjoying the chemistry.
Cut to the scene later in the episode where he basically says, "I know it's that time of the month... here's someone who really deserves killing." It's just enjoyable how he cares in a sick and dysfunctional way for his daughter.
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Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...
Pretty much everything he said about their past annoyed me.
"I attacked and died facing our enemy! You got stabbed in the back because your a helpless girl! It's a good thing I always made the plans. I taught you that. I keep saving you. I keep finding our stuff. Sometimes I find you first, then we find it together, but Horus forfend *you* ever did anything but be a stone around my neck for the last 4000 years."
Granted, it's mostly 'stuff he said' and he could well be an unreliable narrator, but it was still annoying, for this fan of the kickass animated Hawkgirl/woman, who was every bit the fighter that Hawkbro was.
Didn't help that she was an 8 or 9, and he was a 5, tops. You can do better than that, chica. Fly away!
And finally...sigh..what the h-e-double hockey sticks is Malcolm up to now?
More Lazarus Pit shenanigans, I guess. Which makes no sense, since Malcolm seemed all terrified of him *before* he knew the dude was unkillable, a super-warrior and could blow up a city with that staff.
Even better, he only took a small quantity of the ash. If the Lazarus Pit can work on that, could it work again on another small quantity of the ash? That would be one (crazy stupid) way to keep Vandal Savage busy, make a dozen of them and let them fight it out...
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And finally...sigh..what the h-e-double hockey sticks is Malcolm up to now?More Lazarus Pit shenanigans, I guess. Which makes no sense, since Malcolm seemed all terrified of him *before* he knew the dude was unkillable, a super-warrior and could blow up a city with that staff.
Even better, he only took a small quantity of the ash. If the Lazarus Pit can work on that, could it work again on another small quantity of the ash? That would be one (crazy stupid) way to keep Vandal Savage busy, make a dozen of them and let them fight it out...
Oooh, got my brain flowing.... Maybe Malcom wants his (borrowed) immortality back and thinks that the ash will jump start the broken pit?
"Hmm, immortality for an exchange for hunting down a pair of reincanrated idiots who are 1 and 206? I'll take that deal."
The guy who plays Carter just reminds me of a poorman's Jai Courtney who is already a poorman's Channing Tatum. Shayera can definitely do better.
The guy who plays Carter just reminds me of a poorman's Jai Courtney who is already a poorman's Channing Tatum. Shayera can definitely do better.
Cisco was better
Yea, poor Cisco. His love interests are either supervillains or are literally destined to be with someone else.
Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...Pretty much everything he said about their past annoyed me.
"I attacked and died facing our enemy! You got stabbed in the back because your a helpless girl! It's a good thing I always made the plans. I taught you that. I keep saving you. I keep finding our stuff. Sometimes I find you first, then we find it together, but Horus forfend *you* ever did anything but be a stone around my neck for the last 4000 years."
Granted, it's mostly 'stuff he said' and he could well be an unreliable narrator, but it was still annoying, for this fan of the kickass animated Hawkgirl/woman, who was every bit the fighter that Hawkbro was.
Didn't help that she was an 8 or 9, and he was a 5, tops. You can do better than that, chica. Fly away!
Problem is, this isn't THAT Hawkgirl. Kendra Saunders was the one from JSA who started pretty much like this. She had Shiera's Soul mingled with hers, but not the memories or the skills and had to be taught from the ground up.
Carter is in this situation where she SHOULD know all this stuff... but doesn't and he DOES need to spoon feed her to her full potential.
He's not really being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk... what he's saying is accurate. Sometimes you find me... sometimes I find you. This time I got my memories first, now lets' get you ready!!
Yep, Carter/Khufu is a bit of a chauvinistic jerk...Pretty much everything he said about their past annoyed me.
"I attacked and died facing our enemy! You got stabbed in the back because your a helpless girl! It's a good thing I always made the plans. I taught you that. I keep saving you. I keep finding our stuff. Sometimes I find you first, then we find it together, but Horus forfend *you* ever did anything but be a stone around my neck for the last 4000 years."
Granted, it's mostly 'stuff he said' and he could well be an unreliable narrator, but it was still annoying, for this fan of the kickass animated Hawkgirl/woman, who was every bit the fighter that Hawkbro was.
Didn't help that she was an 8 or 9, and he was a 5, tops. You can do better than that, chica. Fly away!
Problem is, this isn't THAT Hawkgirl. Kendra Saunders was the one from JSA who started pretty much like this. She had Shiera's Soul mingled with hers, but not the memories or the skills and had to be taught from the ground up.
Carter is in this situation where she SHOULD know all this stuff... but doesn't and he DOES need to spoon feed her to her full potential.
He's not really being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk... what he's saying is accurate. Sometimes you find me... sometimes I find you. This time I got my memories first, now lets' get you ready!!
He is just an idiot who after thousands of years doesn't understand her.
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Carter is in this situation where she SHOULD know all this stuff... but doesn't and he DOES need to spoon feed her to her full potential.
Except he hasn't just "spoon fed her" he's condescended to her even when it wasn't called for.
"Have we ever tried killing ourselves? It could break the cycle for all we know."
"You silly b%&+!, this is why I make the plans."
Carter is in this situation where she SHOULD know all this stuff... but doesn't and he DOES need to spoon feed her to her full potential.
Except he hasn't just "spoon fed her" he's condescended to her even when it wasn't called for.
"Have we ever tried killing ourselves? It could break the cycle for all we know."
"You silly b+!$+, this is why I make the plans."
Even if they split it who finds who evenly... he's already told her this 103 times already... and this is really the most patient I've ever seen Carter. It's usually more 'Get to it, or get out of my way' and growling.
But really, He loves this girl... he spends most of his lives trying to track her down.. .and the first thing she can say is 'lets kill ourselves!! ' Being a little flippant is legitimate.
4000 years, divided by 206 lives... They seem to average 19 years. Some longer some shorter I would guess.
Their Reincarnation doesn't seem to have room for 'year gaps'. If they died.... they'd be reborn and Savage would kill a couple of babies.
probably.
Vandal was drawn to her the first time and if he's in his 'need power, sense where it is mode... there's no reason to think he wouldn't be drawn to her again... just as a baby
I'm disappointed.
I really didn't like the conclusion of the crossover episodes.
- Time travel just ruins everything. It's a stupid cheat code that removes all tension from the story. I hate the fact that the writers get a free "Get Out of Jail" card for any b#@$~##%.
- Final battle was disappointing. Barry became a moron as he always does when Flash has to fight someone who shouldn't be able to keep up with his speed.
- Vandal savage as crazy-hawk-stalker guy is meh. I really don't like the idea that he needs to parasite a couple characters to live long. I think it's much better when he's a highly skilled super-intelligent immortal dude who can't be killed at all. He becomes more ominous that way.
- Oliver's argument with Felicity is dumb. It's one of those things that can be easily clarified. "I just found out this today, I wanted to digest it before I told you" and "The mother of my child explicitly told I had to keep it a secret if wanted to have a relationship with my son".
- I wouldn't call Carter chauvinistic, since he never did anything that implied he has a low opinion on women... But by gods, is he annoying? Part of it could be explained by the old "This is so clear to me, I just don't understand what you're finding difficult to understand" attitude can affect many well-intentioned teachers/mentors... But, FFS! Isn't this the woman he loves so much that he goes after her life after life? Can't he be more pleasant? He's particularly rude towards her. Why that I know of this character such a annoying a@%@~*#?
I bet the mother of Oliver's kid is the dead woman whose grave Oliver and Barry visit in the first episode of the season. I have never followed Green Arrow comics, but wasn't he a single father at one point? Then his son was killed by a bomb or something.
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I have to shake my head at Ollie lying to Felicity. I understand him wanting to see his son, but it makes a lot more sense to lie to the woman making the completely irrational demands ("You can't tell anyone, even the woman you love about this!") rather than the woman he wants to marry. It's stupid, unnecessary crap for the sake of "drama" that I thought this show had finally left behind.
Total agreement. It's turning into Three's Company, the way the drama revolves around Ollie making the same mistake over and over and over.
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Real life people mind their own f%@!ing business more than these people do.
Felicity does not need to know every single thing about his life the exact moment he learns it. It's not even his secret to tell.
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I have to shake my head at Ollie lying to Felicity. I understand him wanting to see his son, but it makes a lot more sense to lie to the woman making the completely irrational demands ("You can't tell anyone, even the woman you love about this!") rather than the woman he wants to marry. It's stupid, unnecessary crap for the sake of "drama" that I thought this show had finally left behind.Total agreement. It's turning into Three's Company, the way the drama revolves around Ollie making the same mistake over and over and over.
Yeah. Especially after the honesty and forgiveness tour from his peers.
Thea to Laurel: "I killed your sister, but I was totally mind controlled."
"*hugs* It's ok, your dad's an evil man."
Thea to Nyssa: "I killed your GF, but I was totally mind controlled."
"It's ok Thea, your dad is more evil than my dad."
(I'm waiting for "Sorry I killed you Sara." "Your dad's a real Richard, you know that, right?")
Felicity telling everyone Ray's alive instead of angsting over it for a month
Laurel telling her dad (finally!) about Sara's death, and then about her getting better.
Heck at this point Malcom Merlyn tells them more than Ollie does.
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I tend to cut people like that out of my life ASAP, except the ones I can't (some select few family members). I don't need that kind of pointless drama. My business is my business. Yours is yours. If you want to share, go ahead. If you don't, everybody needs to back off. Everyone I know understands this.
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I never get why characters/actual people in these situations don't just say something like;
'Look, you're right, there is something I would like to talk to you about, but I promised I wouldn't tell anyone. Bad things could happen if I break that promise and the only danger from keeping it is that you will be mad at me. I hope that isn't the case and that you'll let me deal with this one thing on my own.'
No need to lie to anyone OR break your word.
Well, that was predictable, given everything.
Not sure how I feel about it. I don't *like* the character, but ... I'd been hoping it would be someone else.
And, why, oh why did Darhk think that
Not sure how I feel about it. I don't *like* the character, but ... I'd been hoping it would be someone else.
It may yet be. Strictly speaking all we've seen so far is an injury; previews for the next episode show a hospital gurney being rushed down the hall. There's time yet for someone entirely different to be killed.