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Quick question to see how you guys would do this. Thinking of making an Oracle of Time, in the style of "The Doctor" (yes from Doctor Who). Half Elf or Elf I think. Stats I rolled: 14, 15, 17, 11, 12, 13. (in no specific order)

If you can come up with a better class or race for "The Doctor" I am all ears. But I want to make sure that he can hit hard if he has to, but for the most part I want him mobile and aiding the rest of the party, with a dash of protecting the squishy targets.

I eagerly await your thoughts

Grand Lodge

Reincarnated Druid.

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The Doctor is totally a bard. With a wand of Knock. He gets all kinds of Knowledge skills, social skills, and especially Inspire Courage ("You know what it's dangerous about you? It's not that you make people take risks, it's that you make them want to impress you.")


RainyDayNinja wrote:
The Doctor is totally a bard. With a wand of Knock. He gets all kinds of Knowledge skills, social skills, and especially Inspire Courage ("You know what it's dangerous about you? It's not that you make people take risks, it's that you make them want to impress you.")

I think bard is the best bet. Knowledge and social skills are his whole shtick. For regeneration, you'd need something entirely separate, a racial trait. He'd probably just be level 5 or 6 (that's what most elite characters outside of very high fantasy would be).

Grand Lodge

A 5th level Reincarnated Druid is automatically reincarnated every time he dies.

After that, multiclass.


Samsaran seems like the most appropriate race to me.

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And of course, Versatile Performance to use Perform (oratory) as Sense Motive ("Annihilate? No. No violence, do you understand me? Not while I'm around. Not today, not ever. I'm the Doctor, the Oncoming Storm... And you basically meant beat them in a football match, didn't you?).

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I'm kinda with Rainy Day Ninja here. Especially if you're playing at a high enough level to take leadership and a Oracle of Time cohort make her like Idris (from the Doctor's Wife).


Perhaps a Samsaran Oracle? (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-samsaran) - they are a race that is natively reincarnated...

however they do get a penalty to CON which seems strange for the doctor who often is shown as having fairly strong FORT type saves (and seemingly immunities to poisons etc)

A few other things to think about how to work in:

- serious tinkering abilities (constructs?)

- as others have noted ability to inspire others to be their best

- ability to speak every language (tongues cursed oracle might be appropriate...)

- general avoidance of guns (so likely not a gunslinger) but ability to be creative in warfare - so not entirely a pacifist.

- probably chaotic (good?) - hard to think about the Doctor as a force for Law and Order...

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Ooh, the race has to be an Emberkin Aasimar. +2 to INT and CHA, definitely the Doctor's best stats. Also, check out the description:

d20pfsrd wrote:
...Emberkin often feel an insatiable need to continually perform acts of good. Some are content to perform small acts of kindness at home, though they may feel driven to travel regularly in order to find pockets of true evil that they can eradicate. Emberkin can often be found in tumultuous regions such as Cheliax, Galt, and the Shackles, where they combat injustice in its myriad forms.


RainyDayNinja wrote:

Ooh, the race has to be an Emberkin Aasimar. +2 to INT and CHA, definitely the Doctor's best stats. Also, check out the description:

d20pfsrd wrote:
...Emberkin often feel an insatiable need to continually perform acts of good. Some are content to perform small acts of kindness at home, though they may feel driven to travel regularly in order to find pockets of true evil that they can eradicate. Emberkin can often be found in tumultuous regions such as Cheliax, Galt, and the Shackles, where they combat injustice in its myriad forms.

Yeah, I like that too.

Scarab Sages

I have to agree with the Bard idea, the doctor is differently a bard.
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The truest possible representation of the Doctor will likely involve the upcoming Mythic rules.

(I hear the 9th mythic tier ability is immortality, including the ability to automatically return to life when killed.)


Black Lotus wrote:

I have to agree with the Bard idea, the doctor is differently a bard.

BTW mod this should be moved to advise, as this is how to make a character...

But it's how to make a specific fictional character in the pathfinder rules, so... Conversions.


Okay I am all for a Bard, I have never played one before. So I am thinking an elf or a half-elf. If there is another race that doesn't require any level adjustments they would be welcomed. I am thinking.
Str 13
Dex 15
Con 14
Int 11
Wis 12
Cha 17

Focus on using a whip and a short sword or Scimitar if I have the feats/traits.

Probably a bow as well.


The earlier suggestion of an emberkin aasimar seems pretty great to me. You have a net +2, but it really fits so well. It makes you inhuman and inherently good. Plus, you get a bonus to knowledge (planes) and spellcraft. It fits so well. And pyrotechnics is a good power for the Doctor, because it's very theatrical and kind of makes you think of him making things explode with his sonic screwdriver. Just read the description of their personalities, too. Really the perfect fit.

Shadow Lodge

I think we can all agree that The Doctor has epic levels, stats in the area of a 50 point buy, and a Brazen Egg for travel. Therefore I propose the following build: 5 levels of Reincarnated Druid as suggested by blackbloodtroll, 10 levels of Detective Bard, and 15 levels of Loremaster. (What? He's The Doctor.)


I did Oracle of Lore.

Dark Archive

Remember he doesn't make people better he makes them Better....


Sesharan wrote:
I think we can all agree that The Doctor has epic levels, stats in the area of a 50 point buy, and a Brazen Egg for travel. Therefore I propose the following build: 5 levels of Reincarnated Druid as suggested by blackbloodtroll, 10 levels of Detective Bard, and 15 levels of Loremaster. (What? He's The Doctor.)

I disagree. I don't see him as being epic at all. His universe just don't have as high-leveled characters as the Pathfinder rule system allows. He's probably 6 or 7.


I was thinking about it for a second and I don't think The Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver would be a Wand of Knock. Not only can it open things, but it can close them as well. I'd probably propose a custom magic item that casts spells at will.

The biggest problem with the Sonic Screwdriver is just that it can really do anything the writers need it to do. So not only would you need Knock, Arcane Lock, and Hold Portal, you'd probably need Status (since I remember it being used as a biological scanner at some point), Mending (since it can repair broken equipment), some spell that activates things from a distance (I have no idea what spell you'd use for that one), and other spells for any kind of function the device has that I can't remember at the moment.

The price of this thing would probably end up being in the hundreds of thousands of gold.


Just a small staff would do.


Harrison wrote:

I was thinking about it for a second and I don't think The Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver would be a Wand of Knock. Not only can it open things, but it can close them as well. I'd probably propose a custom magic item that casts spells at will.

The biggest problem with the Sonic Screwdriver is just that it can really do anything the writers need it to do. So not only would you need Knock, Arcane Lock, and Hold Portal, you'd probably need Status (since I remember it being used as a biological scanner at some point), Mending (since it can repair broken equipment), some spell that activates things from a distance (I have no idea what spell you'd use for that one), and other spells for any kind of function the device has that I can't remember at the moment.

The price of this thing would probably end up being in the hundreds of thousands of gold.

Not all models of the Sonic Screwdriver have the medical scanning capability. It's really a telekinetic set of thieves' tools. Just so happens that Disable Device covers a lot of what it can do. Some enhancement of mundane items, yes, but Pathfinder doesn't have the same power level of mundane items as the modern or future worlds the Doctor usually seems to be in. And the damned thing still doesn't work on wood! It might have some sort of Hold Portal, but I really think he just locks doors from range. He does generally try to find the doors that would be hardest to get to. And it can't break deadlocks (which I'm guessing would be certain types of magical locks or something in Pathfinder).


Even if I have to repeat myself: I wouldn't even try to come up with stats for the Doctor. He's a god. Gods don't have stats for a reason.


I don't see why Samsaran is being ignored in favor of elves.

Speaking of which, I think a fundamental problem is that the Doctor's stats would vary depending on which Doctor we're talking about.


Too bad you can't make the animal companion for the druid be a "human." (Yes DM, my animal companion is a 1st level human commoner.)

I would go with the Race of Samsaran or the Emberkin Assamir. I agree with the five levels of Reincarnation Druid, then go bard after that.

I would just fluff the sonic screw driver. Making it a glowing wand thingy that whenever you cast your spells from Druid or Bard, you use the glowing wand to do it.

Dark Archive

The big problem is a lot of The Doctor's powers comes from racial abilities. Galifreyans and Time Lords are different, it's true; however, I would argue that the potential is there for all of them. Time Lord seems like a racial paragon class.


A thought occurred to me recently (inspired by an NPC in a PFS scenario) that the doctor could, potentially, be - work with me here - a Rage Prophet.

This would be a Barbarian / Oracle (of Time of course) / Rage Prophet build

look at what this would give the Doctor (I'm actually considering building this for PFS play)

Barbarian - high HP (The Doctor is always shown as being resilient), after level 2 - Uncanny Dodge (which is a very Doctor like ability - never be caught flat-footed), and at level 3 trap sense (also very doctor like)

Oracle - of Time. With revelations that work really well for The Doctor. Probably would take many more levels of oracle after some of the Rage Prophet goodness.

Rage Prophet - Spirit Guide - guidance for free each time he enters rage, mage hand, ghost sound and dancing lights once per day as spell like abilities, plus new spells (including many that are fairly doctor like to have), ability to cast cure spells even while raging w/o moment of clarity,

I would probably build this with 4 levels of Rage Prophet, 3 levels of Barbarian, 5 or 7 levels of Oracle (for an effective Oracle spells known & caster level of either 8 or 10 & effective level for Oracle's curse and revelation effects of 9 or 11 with at least three revelations, and for Barbarian rage powers of 7) and then would look at a few other options for additional levels:

- Bard (since the Doctor is clearly some form of Bard - and Bardic knowledge & performance sure seems in his wheelhouse)

- Pathfinder Chronicler (perhaps after some Bard levels) since the "deep pockets" power is so so very Doctor like (literally having a pocket which can have whatever small item he needs at that time...)

Feats would be tricky for this build - with lots of options that would be tempting. The Dimensional ability chain would be flavorful - but costly in terms of feats. Extra Rage, Revelation or Rage Powers would all be tempting as well. If Bard levels are added then various performance feats would be reasonable also.

For an Oracle's curse while Tongues would eventually have an effect that mimics the Tardis' language abilities I actually think that the Legalistic Curse would be better:

- Sickened if you break your word (flavor is pretty good) & once per day bonus to keep a vow you have made (yup)

- at 5th level - boost to Diplomacy, Intimidate and Sense motive when talking to someone one-to-one (close to how the Doctor works though he is also good with a crowd)

- at 10th level, new saving throw each minute to mind-affecting effects as your mind seeks loopholes - yup, that's quite dead on

(and at level 15 - which I think my build would reach depending on how you count non-oracle levels for the curse - unclear if Rage Prophet levels would actually count here as well) - creatures that violate their freely given word to you get a massive penalty when they do so)

For Barbarian rage powers:

Moment of Clarity (required for Rage Prophet)

Lesser Celestial Totem - really nice boost to healing while raging (pairs amazingly well with rage prophet's ability to cast cures even while raging...)

(if he gets a third rage power then Guarded Life seems good)

The flaws to this build idea are:

- the Doctor should have Disable Device as a class skill (perhaps via a Trait?) and really should have trapfinding (Seeker archetype would give this but would give up Use Magic Device as a class skill which also seems very Doctor like)

- the Doctor probably should have Improved Unarmed strike (see 3rd Doctor) and while not lawful really is very monklike in many ways - but Barbarian also fits some aspects of the Doctor (especially HP)

- the Doctor should eventually have Tongues ideally as an always on ability (perhaps via a magic item if not via a racial or class feature)

- the Doctor isn't really so much a divine caster as a demigod himself - but an Oracle can be flavored as a very primal being without relying on a specific diety

- via some means the Doctor really should have every knowledge skill as a class skill and all highly trained - ideally you would also build in the age bonuses for being 900+ years old but there isn't mechanically a way to do that (at least not in PFS play - in a home campaign if building The Doctor as an NPC I would totally give him age benefits w/o age penalties to reflect having been reincarnated many times over

- my build would use perhaps some Bard levels but perhaps reincarnated Druid makes even more sense (though that then implies Chaotic Neutral when I would more typically think of the Doctor as likely Chaotic Good) - for PFS play reincarnated Druid isn't an option.

- Rage, however controlled, isn't a perfect match for the Doctor. He is shown as definitely being a better warrior than he lets on ("the coming storm") and is shown in many episodes as being highly skilled with many different weapons and fighting styles - but generally he runs or talks his way out of confrontations. So the Barbarian tendency to strike first and strike hard isn't really the Doctor's mode. But fast movement certainly is, as would being lightly armored (if at all) and being resistant to nearly everything especially mind control.

Grand Lodge

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Alasanii wrote:

Quick question to see how you guys would do this. Thinking of making an Oracle of Time, in the style of "The Doctor" (yes from Doctor Who). Half Elf or Elf I think. Stats I rolled: 14, 15, 17, 11, 12, 13. (in no specific order)

If you can come up with a better class or race for "The Doctor" I am all ears. But I want to make sure that he can hit hard if he has to, but for the most part I want him mobile and aiding the rest of the party, with a dash of protecting the squishy targets.

I eagerly await your thoughts

Anyone who thinks that The Doctor fits within a wargame like D20 really really doesn't understand the concept of appropriate fit to genre. There is simply no way that D20 can do the appropriate justice, it's either an overpowered build or something that totally fails to capture the flavor of the characters and the show.


LazarX wrote:
Alasanii wrote:

Quick question to see how you guys would do this. Thinking of making an Oracle of Time, in the style of "The Doctor" (yes from Doctor Who). Half Elf or Elf I think. Stats I rolled: 14, 15, 17, 11, 12, 13. (in no specific order)

If you can come up with a better class or race for "The Doctor" I am all ears. But I want to make sure that he can hit hard if he has to, but for the most part I want him mobile and aiding the rest of the party, with a dash of protecting the squishy targets.

I eagerly await your thoughts

Anyone who thinks that The Doctor fits within a wargame like D20 really really doesn't understand the concept of appropriate fit to genre. There is simply no way that D20 can do the appropriate justice, it's either an overpowered build or something that totally fails to capture the flavor of the characters and the show.

Next you're going to tell me that veggies are good for me and I should brush my teeth, man........

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Guy Kilmore wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Alasanii wrote:

Quick question to see how you guys would do this. Thinking of making an Oracle of Time, in the style of "The Doctor" (yes from Doctor Who). Half Elf or Elf I think. Stats I rolled: 14, 15, 17, 11, 12, 13. (in no specific order)

If you can come up with a better class or race for "The Doctor" I am all ears. But I want to make sure that he can hit hard if he has to, but for the most part I want him mobile and aiding the rest of the party, with a dash of protecting the squishy targets.

I eagerly await your thoughts

Anyone who thinks that The Doctor fits within a wargame like D20 really really doesn't understand the concept of appropriate fit to genre. There is simply no way that D20 can do the appropriate justice, it's either an overpowered build or something that totally fails to capture the flavor of the characters and the show.
Next you're going to tell me that veggies are good for me and I should brush my teeth, man........

There actually is a proper roleplaying venue... the Dr Who RPG.


Carry on then....


LazarX wrote:
Guy Kilmore wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Alasanii wrote:

Quick question to see how you guys would do this. Thinking of making an Oracle of Time, in the style of "The Doctor" (yes from Doctor Who). Half Elf or Elf I think. Stats I rolled: 14, 15, 17, 11, 12, 13. (in no specific order)

If you can come up with a better class or race for "The Doctor" I am all ears. But I want to make sure that he can hit hard if he has to, but for the most part I want him mobile and aiding the rest of the party, with a dash of protecting the squishy targets.

I eagerly await your thoughts

Anyone who thinks that The Doctor fits within a wargame like D20 really really doesn't understand the concept of appropriate fit to genre. There is simply no way that D20 can do the appropriate justice, it's either an overpowered build or something that totally fails to capture the flavor of the characters and the show.
Next you're going to tell me that veggies are good for me and I should brush my teeth, man........
There actually is a proper roleplaying venue... the Dr Who RPG.

I promise to be home at a reasonable time each night.

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