Yeah. and the guy from 2 is supposed to be in it. Curse my morbid curiosity against my better judgement I'll probably have to see it. Thank goodness my morbid curiosity doesnt include the need to see any of the Saw movies...
Heh, reading through all this "BBT is teh 3vi1 because it makes fun of gamer stereotypes!" stuff really makes me laugh.
Why?
Because I'm a gamer. I frequent gaming stores and activities that gamers participate in.
I gotta tell you, those stereotypes exist for a reason.
Heh, reading through all this "BBT is teh 3vi1 because it makes fun of gamer stereotypes!" stuff really makes me laugh.
Why?
Because I'm a gamer. I frequent gaming stores and activities that gamers participate in.
I gotta tell you, those stereotypes exist for a reason.
That doesn't make it okay to laugh at people.
I obviously don't follow it closely, but when I look up at it, I can never tell if the characters in BBT are supposed to be college students or actual scientists. If the former, OK, then it makes sense.
If the latter: Why are there no older, more established mentors and administrators that they're paired up with? Why are they always at home in a dorm-like setting instead of in the lab or (better yet) in the field? And how do they get funding if they're totally neurotic and can't deal with, you know, "normal" humans?
1.) They are actual scientists.
2.) There are older people around, but not as mentors. They're all working on their own projects (often with other partners, assistants, and so on, but they're not often seen).
3.) They show them at the university fairly often actually, though usually in their offices or cafeteria. Wolowitz is most often shown actually doing work, since he's an engineer and is likely to be a bit more active (doing stuff with his hands) than the particle physicists and such.
4.) They find it very hard to get funding, which is why they aren't more prominent though they're all good at their work. There's at least one episode centered around this. Leonard ends up sleeping with an old rich woman who gives him funding. But it was totally because she's a nice woman, he says.
I obviously don't follow it closely, but when I look up at it, I can never tell if the characters in BBT are supposed to be college students or actual scientists. If the former, OK, then it makes sense.
If the latter: Why are there no older, more established mentors and administrators that they're paired up with? Why are they always at home in a dorm-like setting instead of in the lab or (better yet) in the field? And how do they get funding if they're totally neurotic and can't deal with, you know, "normal" humans?
It's hard to believe you've watched an entire episode if you don't realize they are real scientists with real jobs in a real university.
Like I said, as near as I could tell, they lived in a dorm.
And everything they said and did seemed more apt for grad students than for actual working scientists.
Why would I say that? Because I'm a professional scientist, and none of the things on the show resemble anything in my life in the slightest bit, except maybe the D&D playing.
They live in apartments (except Howard, who lives with his mom for a long time). Sheldon and Leonard room and Raj is alone.
And of course it doesn't reflect your life, it's a sit-com. I'm pretty sure everyone knew The King of Queens wasn't exactly an accurate representation of delivery/UPS drivers in New York as well.
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You know what show I find offensive? The King of Queens!!!
This terrible slop perpetuates the offensive stereotype that all Teamsters are obese slobs and infantile man-children with hawt wives.
Let me tell you, hawt wives are hard to find in the International Brotherhood.
Bump.
Like I said, as near as I could tell, they lived in a dorm.
And everything they said and did seemed more apt for grad students than for actual working scientists.Why would I say that? Because I'm a professional scientist, and none of the things on the show resemble anything in my life in the slightest bit, except maybe the D&D playing.
It took me a few episodes before I realized they weren't grad students.
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Dan Harmon may be coming back to Community... It's in an iO9 article. :-)
I also saw the episode where Leonard gets picked up by the hot male motorcycle-riding scientist (who looked really familiar, but I can't recall who it was now) and Penny gets Sheldon a napkin with Leonard Nimoy's signature for Xmas.
Hee hee!
It was pretty funny.
http://io9.com/what-dan-harmon-in-talks-to-return-to-community-510141772
Dan Harmon may be coming back to Community... It's in an iO9 article. :-)
...that's not funny. Stop taunting us!
(hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
He should, like, make it one of his terms that they have to bring Chevy Chase back as well. :p
Dan Harmon may be coming back to Community... It's in an iO9 article. :-)...that's not funny. Stop taunting us!
(hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
He should, like, make it one of his terms that they have to bring Chevy Chase back as well. :p
Considering their very public feud, he's probably coming back since Chevy quit....
Related to BB theory.
Local Boston Sports Radio station has a young reporter that goes to local comic book shops, conventions, etc. The reported is considered geeky and he interviews customers/vendors. In my opinion the cast of BB fits the stereotype of people who go to these events and in fact are far less geeky than people interviewed.
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I'd guess the people interviewed do not represent a sample of professional scientists, however. That's the conflation on the show that I can never quite figure out. Are scientists more likely to watch Firefly than Sunday Night Football? Maybe, maybe not. Are they likely to be attending comic book conventions? For most of the scientisists I know, the answer is no -- they're usually too busy with things like work, taking care of their houses (not dorms/apartments) and kids, and the occasional weekend hunting trip.
Scientist =/= perpetual college kid.
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I don't think the main characters on The Big Bang Theory are meant to represent all scientists nor are they to be some sort of stereotype of the typical scientist. Sure, many scientists are normal, well adjusted people, just like many geeks are. The show is about a group of friends who are socially awkward geeks who are scientists, that's all.
Heck, one episode had a male scientist that worked with Leonard who was good looking, cool, rode a motorcycle and was charming with the ladies.
Honestly, I think people are making WAY to much about this show. It's just a sitcom, nothing more. Many people (myself included) simply find it to funny ....
I thought that way as well until recently, when someone asked me, "I bet the people you work with are all like this, aren't they?" They couldn't believe that the people I work with have houses, kids, and deer rifles -- and generally lack obvious personality disorders.
But I'll happily grant that's a problem more with the audience than with the show; I was talking to a person who also asked, "wouldn't it be cool to be just like Dexter? He's such a good person... but with my luck, I'd get caught!"
Still, I feel the need to occasionally pop in and provide a does of non-TV-related reality every now and then, for the benefit of the people who start taking these shows too literally.
I'd guess the people interviewed do not represent a sample of professional scientists, however. That's the conflation on the show that I can never quite figure out. Are scientists more likely to watch Firefly than Sunday Night Football? Maybe, maybe not. Are they likely to be attending comic book conventions? For most of the scientisists I know, the answer is no -- they're usually too busy with things like work, taking care of their houses (not dorms/apartments) and kids, and the occasional weekend hunting trip.
Scientist =/= perpetual college kid.
Were you already married with kids in your mid to late 20's?
Because that's becoming a lot more uncommon nowadays.
And replace "weekend hunting trip" with "Comic-Con" (JUST Comic-Con I believe, which is only once a year) and you have effectively the same thing time-wise so I'm again not sure what your point is.
I'm really baffled by this post to be honest. I get that you're trying to "disprove" the show's accuracy (which is already an exercise in futility since sit-coms aren't exactly MEANT to be very accurate), but you're doing it in such a way that makes me think you've watched maybe 15 minutes of the show total across 5 different episodes, because you seem to believe ALL THEY DO is go to conventions, when they're shown at the school just as often, and are seni-regularly pulling all-nighters off-screen as well.
They do their work. The comics and games are what they do for fun.
My post, as explained subsequently, was aimed at the people who watch the show and then think "scientist = comic book dork with emotional problems who lives in dorm/apartment with other weirdos and has no family or non-geek hobbies."
You are clearly not one of those people. I'd wager that most of the people on the board do not take home that message from the show. I have seen from personal experience, however, that many people DO watch the show and make those exact correspondences, and I figure it might not hurt for us to point out to them, now and again, that (as you correctly point out) sit coms are not real.
Again, my issue is with a large part of the audience, not the show. If fans of the show here would give the other fans a reminder of reality every now and then, I'd feel all warm and fuzzy and stuff -- or at least not post about it.
Ohhhhhh...
Bafflement ceased, thank you.
Heck, one episode had a male scientist that worked with Leonard who was good looking, cool, rode a motorcycle and was charming with the ladies.
As I recall that episode the good looking scientist picked up penny, who discovered he was married and cheating on his wife with her when she found nude photos of his wife on his phone when he was taking pictures of Penny.
It's a recurring theme that the attractive alpha males are womanizing jerks, with the exception of one of Penny's boyfriends who was pretty but dumb. In fact he tried very hard to integrate with the main characters who at first bullied him for his low IQ....
(I know you know all this Mr. Radle, I'm just using your post as a springboard. :) )
Considering their very public feud, he's probably coming back since Chevy quit....
That was the joke, yep!
But on the topic of TBBT, while I might not like the show, you can't hate a show that makes the occasional City of Heroes reference.
That was the joke, yep!
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I have no idea how I didn't pick up on that. I'm gonna blame it on being in training when I read it. *facepalm*
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Just seen this on the BBC entertainment news text service:-
'Hit US sitcom The Big Bang Theory took home the most prizes from the Critics' Choice TV Awards in Los Angeles, scooping three awards.
'The show was named best comedy series, while its stars Simon Helberg and Kaley Cuoco were named best supporting actor and actress respectively.'
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I found this dead horse in the back corner of the boards and thought it could do with a little extra beating (I'm sure I don't need to mention that I'm writing with poetic license and no-one should feel threatened by my language; no actual horses are in danger of physical violence, deceased or otherwise):
Loads of great comedies include laugh tracks: Monty Python and my all-time fav Fawlty Towers are good examples.
So does this thread!
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Well, I'm a physicist and a gamer. The two things can coincide. However, the science and scientists that the show portrays are laughably unrealistic. Laughably. Because it's supposed to be a comedy. I don't mind comedies being silly and unrealistic, but it can frustrate me when people use BBT as their model of how scientists and gamers live and act.
My personal opinion is that the show isn't funny or clever. It's your basic sit-com, with a nerd tilt. It has many flaws, but is probably entertaining to its fans. I think any argument claiming this show is "comedy genius" or on the level of the greatest TV comedies would be indefensible.
Well, it does fairly accurately depict misogyny rampant in geek culture, and the fairly shallow attempts to correct it. So in that respect it's pretty realistic. I just try to look past it and appreciate that they've at least added some depth with Bernadette and Amy.
As far as canned laughter, it's filmed in front of a live audience. Just like with Friends. That's sitcoms for you, but the laughter is at least real.
As far as I'm concerned, it's funny in part because it's insulting. I get peeved every time the scientists think they're historians just because they know historical some trivia. But I try not to let myself get twisted in knots over it.
Is it great television? No. But it's about as funny as most such shows, like How I Met Your Mother, if not quite the quality of Parks and Recreation. But at least it hasn't taken the uneven nose-dive that Community has. You want great television, watch something British.
Well, it does fairly accurately depict misogyny rampant in geek culture, and the fairly shallow attempts to correct it. So in that respect it's pretty realistic. I just try to look past it and appreciate that they've at least added some depth with Bernadette and Amy.
I don't have first hand experience with American geek culture, so maybe that part is accurate. But considering how wildly inaccurate everything else is, I was kinda assuming this was on the same level.
Then again, I also don't know if every American high school movie ever made is grossly exaggerated, or if all American teenagers are really psychotic. :)
Were people expecting a documentary? I wonder if jocks all get together and complain about Friday Night Lights... ;) I know doctors complain about medical shows, and crime shows are ruining juries.
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Were people expecting a documentary?
No one expected the show itself to be a documentary. But I was unprepared for roughly 50% of the viewers to treat it as such -- that still boggles my mind and causes no small amount of annoyance (direct quote: "I bet the people you work with are just like that, aren't they.")
But I was unprepared for roughly 50% of the viewers to treat it as such -- that still boggles my mind and causes no small amount of annoyance
You know what boggles my mind? People who make up statistics from pure fantasy.
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But I was unprepared for roughly 50% of the viewers to treat it as such -- that still boggles my mind and causes no small amount of annoyanceYou know what boggles my mind? People who make up statistics from pure fantasy.
Equally so, when people will ignore a point in order to be pedantic. For your benefit: "I was unprepared for roughly 50% of the viewers I have talked about the show with..." To clarify further: I'm speaking from anecdote, not from imagination.
Are you offended because you're part of that fraction (whatever the exact figure may be), and that's why you're sniping like this?
No Kirth I am irritated by exactly what I said I was irritated by: Fake or Misleading Statistics. It is an insult to others intelligence in ANY argument to use bogus statistics. And simply changing what you said from a completely fake stat to a simply misleading one is equally absurd.
Clearly the recently voted Best Comedy is going to IN REALITY have a vanishingly small number of people who take it seriously.
PS: I could present misleading statistics as well: 100% of people I have met in real life have loved the show.
Whatever.
PS: I could present misleading statistics as well: 100% of people I have met in real life have loved the show.Your social circle's excellent taste is not my problem.
:P
FIFY ;p
Nor should it be your problem. It was after all an example of bad form.
You know what boggles my mind? People who make up statistics from pure fantasy.
I find posts like these to be quite rude and somewhat aggressive. Let's keep things civil and friendly. After all, we're merely discussing a TV comedy.
Like I've said, it doesn't bother me when a show is wildly unrealistic, as BBT certainly is. It's simply a comedy, and a TV show. I expect it to be silly, and that can be fun (even funny!). However, as I've said, it can frustrate me when people use BBT as their model of how scientists and gamers live and act. It clearly frustrates others as well. (It frustrates exactly 72% of people!)
But I was unprepared for roughly 50% of the viewers to treat it as such -- that still boggles my mind and causes no small amount of annoyanceYou know what boggles my mind? People who make up statistics from pure fantasy.
You are such a nice person Aranna, I hope everybody uses you as an example of how to treat others and responds to you in kind.