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It occurs to me, with 2 Batman creation threads, that we need a general Heroes thread. Who is your hero? How would/have you build/built them? These surely will only be close approximations; especially considering most heroes don't kill (save for some abominations)
Currently I have 2 hero builds and 1 villain build based off of fighters and their arch-types.
1. Captain America: Armored Fighter (not the shielded due to some difference of abilities)
2. Merlyn (the Green Arrow's nemesis: Fighter Archer.
3. The Punisher: Fighter (straight with the ability to use firearms, 'cause I didn't want to use grit)
I can expand on these if people wish me to, but remember these are just variants.
Black Widow: Ninja with levels of Fighter thrown in.
Tigra: Catfolk Fighter/Barbarian
Giantman: Alchemist
Black Knight: Cavalier
Now I see people building Iron man and Wolverine. Hmmmm. How about Magneto?
Green goblin: Alchemist (grenadier) on a flying carpet
Hulk barbarian 1/alchemist x
joker: Alchemist
The Thing...Earth Elemental?
V from V For Vendetta. I'm torn between 3 options: Vivesectionist Alchemist, Ninja, or Rogue Knife Master
That's a good one. I am working on my Green Arrow nemesis (basically the same abilities). The 'trick' arrows are going to be through the magic item creation feat.
I did something like this a long time ago. Mind you this was for the 3.5 and the d20 starwars games I was playing at the time. It uses level agusments to get the abilitys of the sup and you take your classes from there (a few the person had a custome class like Guyver.)
The website is still up even though I have have not done anything with it since 2008. It can be found Here.
A example is the Thing since you asked. (even though he was very high becouse of the strengt).
+10 Levels
+56 str
+56 con
-5 chr
Feat: Endurence for free.15+level Resintacne to Fire, Cold.
DR (3/level)/(+1 per every 5 starting at 1) (so it is 3/+1 at one, 16/+2 at 6, 33/+3 at 11 ect.)
Hight weaight (x10 normal).P.S. I go the origanal str bouses for a human (10) - what str it would take to lift what they could.
I disagree, Benjamin Grimm does not have a penalty to charisma anymore than a Lich (+2) or the Tzitzimitl (+gobs). Yes, he is an ugly rock monster, but ugliness doesn't invoke a penalty to charisma, unimpressiveness invokes penalties to charisma. Plus, he's a big rock monster with horrifying amounts of strength, guys got intimidate to spare, and I know he's got a heck of a poker face. His resistances apply to most things.
His DR is probably X/- where X is whatever number you think a guy who can take shots from The Hulk and keep on coming, sits. Because he doesn't have any real weaknesses aside from raw damage and his will save is something to behold, but that has more to do with the man than the rock monster.
Green goblin: Alchemist (grenadier) on a flying carpet
Make this character a real green goblin. XD
Why not include the Hobgoblin, too?
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Okay, we have a Paladin in the party called Frank the Tank. We also have a gunfighter (not a gunslinger), and an Armored fighter.
At 6th level these two fighters (gun and armored) will be able to craft magical items in their respective fields. They are going to outfit the paladin with magical armor that can 'deploy' around the him when he wants it to as well as enable him to fly. That is what the Armored fighter will do for him. The gunfighter will create cannons for him...lots of cannons.
Yes, we are making him into War Machine!
With the new Card Throwing feat from the Varisia guide one of my players wants me to build Gambit his favorite
So im either going a fortune telling Wizard or the Quarter Staff Magus
Let's build Optimus Prime!
Iron Golem? Is that too easy? Clockwork? Self-aware for sure.
These are some I've thought about...
Yomiko "The Paper" Readman = Scroll Master (very high level)
The Paper Sisters
Anita King = Scroll Master/Unarmed Fighter
Michelle Cheung = Scroll Master/Ranger/Arcane Archer
Maggie Mui = She's tough, but I think maybe Scroll Master focusing on conjuration spells and a dip into fighter for her bodyguarding abilities
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The Birds of Prey
The Huntress = Urban Ranger with crossbow focus
Black Canary = Martial Artist monk archetype (or fighter) with some kind of sonic blast SLA
Lady Blackhawk = Dual wielding pistol gunslinger
Had an idea for Oracle but don't remember what it was... fighter/wizard (Diviner) maybe...
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Other...
The Incredible Hulk = Alchemist/Master Chymist (but I'd do She-Hulk as some kind of Synthesist Summoner)
Would be interesting to do a Fantastic 4 loosely themed party with elemental builds, either using the "genasi" replacements from the Bestiary 2 or various classes, since their abilities roughly draws on the elemental theme anyway.
Nightcrawler is a gimme now with the dimensional feats. Tiefling Magus with prehensile tail trait and rapier.
I actually wanted to do Iron man as a reskined synthasist summoner...this weird steam punk gollum that he climbs into really would be cool for certain less traditional campaigns.
Can someone link to the wolverine build threads and/or summarize them?
I love the Nightcrawler idea!
I don't know about a link, but there are a bunch of ways for barbarians to get natural attacks now....it's easy enough to call those claws and a few of them already are. Dwarf barbarian wolverines abound!
Also the 3.5 warlock makes an easy Cyclopse...nothing says eldritch blast has to come out of your hands,
Marvel heroes are actually pretty easy...most have one or two powers or operate on a theme. DC is a lot harder to many crazy versatile powers like Green lantern or god level powers like superman.
Green Lantern could be easy with a ring of prestidigitation and/or limited wish.
Maybe a pumped up prestidigitation...hmmmm.
I think GL would take a lot more than that...full on ring of TK at a minimum. He clan literally make anything his imagination and willpower can come up with...fully animated hard light constructs...I can't think of a good way to emulate that in pathfinder.
Psionisist with their ability tied to a ring?
I haven't seen Psionics in Pathfinder (dm hates em) but the 3.5 verison definitley could have pulled of a nice Green Lantern...
Most all of my GMs hated them too, but there is Psionics Unleashed for Pathfinder.
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Marvel hero Doctor Druid: Psion
Marvel hero Paladin: Fighter/Gunslinger
Marvel hero Rogue: Monk/Sorcerer
Marvel villain The Wizard: Alchemist/Bard
Marvel villain The Magus: Psychic Warrior
DC hero Oracle: Bard/Rogue
These are some I've thought about...
Yomiko "The Paper" Readman = Scroll Master (very high level)
The Paper Sisters
Anita King = Scroll Master/Unarmed FighterMichelle Cheung = Scroll Master/Ranger/Arcane Archer
Maggie Mui = She's tough, but I think maybe Scroll Master focusing on conjuration spells and a dip into fighter for her bodyguarding abilities
===The Birds of Prey
The Huntress = Urban Ranger with crossbow focusBlack Canary = Martial Artist monk archetype (or fighter) with some kind of sonic blast SLA
Lady Blackhawk = Dual wielding pistol gunslinger
Had an idea for Oracle but don't remember what it was... fighter/wizard (Diviner) maybe...
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Other...The Incredible Hulk = Alchemist/Master Chymist (but I'd do She-Hulk as some kind of Synthesist Summoner)
Would be interesting to do a Fantastic 4 loosely themed party with elemental builds, either using the "genasi" replacements from the Bestiary 2 or various classes, since their abilities roughly draws on the elemental theme anyway.
Black Canary could be done if you have a nice GM that will allow you to replace Scorching Ray with Ear Piercing Scream on the Quigon Monk
I was thinking about all these Batman threads....maybe we should start with his race...Human sure, but what about true Azlantian....you know a +2 to all attributes. After that I would have to say Witchhunter with equipment trick feats.
Batman is a normal human. However, he'd have unusaully high ability scores.
For his class levels, I'd give him monk 4/ranger 3/rogue 12, with the martial artist monk archetype, the urban ranger ranger archetype and the investigator rogue archetype.
The ability scores having to be high, considering we're talking about the Bat, is why I suggest him being true Azlantian.
Now Bane...
Tactician 'Figher' with levels in alchemy, or juiced up by an alchemist.
Why make him a different race when all you need to do is give him higher ability scores?
Just tryin to be fair about it if someone is trying to make him as a pc instead of an npc.
I've thought of building Iron Man out of a Synthesist Summoner. Improved Armor, flight, major magic (scorching ray). That sort of thing.
That doesn't sound too far off of what I was thinking...I was going to use a 6th level armored fighter who can craft magic armor (thanks to the feats) to craft armor with flight and various 'weapon' spells.
Wonder Woman. I am thinking a Celestial of some sort with ranks in Amazon.
I've thought of building Iron Man out of a Synthesist Summoner. Improved Armor, flight, major magic (scorching ray). That sort of thing.Eidolon named Jarvis by any chance?
It would pretty much have to be.
Daredevil
monk/fighter/daredevil bard?
is there any blind monk archetype?
Bullseye
Monk of the Empty Hand/Assassin
Captain Marvel
Cleric of 7 gods who is in really good with them and can make god calls at will. Then he is granted his abilities.
I've always been fond of Beast and Beast Boy.
Druids? Wildshape abilities?
Beast would probably be someone who got stuck that way.
Beast is a scientist, so maybe a Hyde alchemist build with high str, dex, acrobatic skills.
Deadman an acrobatic lich
Beast is one of those characters that are nigh impossible to quantify, normally, much less in a system with actual numbers. He can do things with science you really shouldn't be able to do and he's a.... well a beast in combat. Fast, strong, tough, experienced, and skilled.
Snake Eyes ... Ninja for sure.
Snakes Eyes is clearly a gestalt character, he's too dangerous to not be one. The other half is fighter.