"Each creature affected by your illusion (pattern) spells is treated as if its total number of Hit Dice were equal to its number of Hit Dice minus your Charisma modifier."
I just want to make sure I am reading this correct.
If Bob the Oracle (Cha 18) casts color spray, do I minus 4 HD from the creature before the saving throw, or only after the creature fails to see its affects?
If Bob the Oracle (Cha 18) casts color spray, do I minus 4 HD from the creature before the saving throw, or only after the creature fails to see its affects?
If the creature has, for example, 5 HD, you treat it as if it had 1 HD. This means if it fails its save, the creature is unconscious, blinded, and stunned for 2d4 rounds, then blinded and stunned for 1d4 rounds, and then stunned for 1 round.
If the creature has 7 HD, treat it as if it had 3 HD. This means if it fails its save, the creature is blinded and stunned for 1d4 rounds, then stunned for 1 round.
"If the creature has 7 HD, treat it as if it had 3 HD."
Do I use a 7HD saving throw or a 3HD though. That is what I need to know.
The creature's saving throw remains unchanged.
In your example, all the revelation does is forcing the target to apply the (more severe) results should it fail its save.
Bah! Scintillating Pattern FTW!
Which they don't get!
Depends. (Sorc dipping into Oracle comes to mind... and I think that Oracles were allowed to try and research new spells, as well)
On 'normal' progressions, though, you are right :)
maybe I am dense, but then what is the big deal about Awesome Display? It is a Save or Sucks spell with Illusions . And save or sucks is generally thought of as inferior.
I find monsters Will Save scale faster than the caster can increase his/her DC.
Do you find the Oracle dip/ sorcerer gets high enough spells to increase the DC to keep up with the monsters, or do you need to designate ever feat to keep up?
