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Producers and directors that just don't give a f@$&.
7. Inconsistent time travel rules
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8. People expecting perfection.
11. Easy solutions to overcoming the adversity.
"The aliens' weakness is water!"
12. [insert name of box-office hit or cult classic movie here]: The Series.
13. As above, but add the word "Animated" before "Series."
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18. A more involved answer. Sci Fi needs to cater to geeks. That doesn't mean just have shows about Sci Fi on it. Face Off worked really well. Geeks like to dress up (look at LARPs, Cons, etc. for evidence of that). Marcel's Kitchen didn't work because geeks hate to cook. Marcel's Pizza Delivery might have worked. Real world psychics don't work (geeks have a hard on for science, psychics are make believe). But, fictional shows about psychics would work. Geeks like to write fan fiction, so a competition show on who can make the best YouTube video (especially one special effects) might work. But, shows that are superficially sexy (ie. Lost Girl) don't. All in all, the network needs real geeks to guide programming. To not have that would make even less sense than to have someone who is not a foodie guide the Food Network's programming.
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I'm a geek, and I like to cook. I know a lot of fellow geeks who like to cook, too.
Hell, check out this awesome blog: Inn at the Crossroads
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18. A more involved answer. Sci Fi needs to cater to geeks. That doesn't mean just have shows about Sci Fi on it. Face Off worked really well. Geeks like to dress up (look at LARPs, Cons, etc. for evidence of that). Marcel's Kitchen didn't work because geeks hate to cook. Marcel's Pizza Delivery might have worked. Real world psychics don't work (geeks have a hard on for science, psychics are make believe). But, fictional shows about psychics would work. Geeks like to write fan fiction, so a competition show on who can make the best YouTube video (especially one special effects) might work. But, shows that are superficially sexy (ie. Lost Girl) don't. All in all, the network needs real geeks to guide programming. To not have that would make even less sense than to have someone who is not a foodie guide the Food Network's programming.?
I'm a geek, and I like to cook. I know a lot of fellow geeks who like to cook, too.
Hell, check out this awesome blog: Inn at the Crossroads
Second the geeking out in the kitchen. I love experimenting in the kitchen, be it with spices, odd fruits or veggies, new recipes or just random ingredients that I have on hand to see what I can come up with (which is successful more often than not).
Thirding the kitchen geekery. It's more common than you might think...
I enjoy cooking. Breakfasts should be a man's speciality.
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Interesting. Then I guess I have to get another hypothesis as to why Marcel's kitchen flopped.
Probably some combination of:
A. Being on a channel that everyone loves to hate
B. Competing with Food Network
and
C. Being a mediocre show
I couldn't tell you for sure though, since I don't really have cable, and thus never watched it.
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Interesting. Then I guess I have to get another hypothesis as to why Marcel's kitchen flopped.Probably some combination of:
A. Being on a channel that everyone loves to hate
B. Competing with Food Network
and
C. Being a mediocre show
Also half of the time it is nearly impossible for an average person to get the equipment needed to cook some of his recipes. I mean where the hell can you buy liquid nitrogen without having to fill out a bunch of licences and possibly and interview with homeland security.
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Interesting. Then I guess I have to get another hypothesis as to why Marcel's kitchen flopped.
Perhaps a better hypothesis would be: Geeks would rather watch a well-written sci-fi show than more reality programming.
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11. Easy solutions to overcoming the adversity.
"The aliens' weakness is water!"
27. Aliens capable of crossing interstellar distances being vulnerable to human technology...I mean really - One neutron bomb and its over for humanity.
Warrior Bee 23: "Neutron Weapon detonated Hive mother. All Lifeforms terminated."
Queen Bee: "Excellent! Proceed with colonization."
SyFy, the channel everybody loves to hate? It's this kind of self stigma that is the Achilles heel of geekery.
I don't think the original idea was to bash Syfy channel specifically, just to show how scifi can go seriously wrong in general.
...um, could we get this thread moved from books to movies and/or television? jumping on the geeks in the kitchen bandwagon as well btw.
personally, i feel that in modern tv in general special effects are relied on over plot/acting ability. naturally, this hurts the sifi genre badly as there's so many oppitunites for the executives to just throw in another explosion and call it a day.
PS: if this is in movies or television already and it's only showing up in books for me, please feel free to disreguard this message.
30. People not knowing the difference between Science Fiction and Fantasy
31. Specifically producers
32. Kevin J. Anderson
33. Anyone else picking up and running with the toybox of a long dead author and playing with it (exceptions made for public domain characters from the 19th century when the material is done well, a rare exception to be sure.)
Yup, I thought the original question was about what kills SF in books, hence why it's in the book forum. If it's going to be about SyFy/TV/movies, shouldn't it be moved over there? SF Lit has a lot of different issues and problems that don't really have anything in common with TV/movies.
32. Kevin J. Anderson
This is certainly very book-relevant. Kevin J. Anderson's name being attached to a project in any way, shape or form should send all readers scurrying away from it screaming in terror.
For some reason, I saw this being in Gamer Talk, and not Books, when I first saw the thread. I was probably mistaken.
The thread got moved to what was at best a semi-appropriate new home, Shadowborn. You weren't mistaken.
Ah, well in that case, I'll continue to talk about sci-fi in the broadest sense, in the hope they move the thread elsewhere.
37. Take some part of a long-enduring mythology and give it a "scientific" explanation (i.e. the gods are just aliens that interacted with primitive humans, or the mythical <blank> was actually a race of highly evolved dimensional travelers.)
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36. Taking a well known and loved IP and changing it from the original to what some modern writer wants to think is "dark" or "edgy". We respect the original, want to see the original, and not what you've written and stuck the original's name on to get our attention. Not everything needs to be updated.
With EXPLOSIONS and hot chicks!
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36. Taking a well known and loved IP and changing it from the original to what some modern writer wants to think is "dark" or "edgy". We respect the original, want to see the original, and not what you've written and stuck the original's name on to get our attention. Not everything needs to be updated.
I thought the new BSG was exponentially better that the original(s).
I thought the new BSG was exponentially better that the original(s).
I thought Caprica was exponentially better than the new BSG. Where did that get me? Six episodes, and then a big nothing.