
Munkir |

I'm building a barbarian/monk that is based on rend.
Is this a good idea?
Also any advice would be grate.
Additional questions--
What's the best race? I was thinking The monkey race but I hope to find something with Str and Wis.
What should I start with and move to.
I normaly don't ask others to help me build I do research but I never touched a monk and I normaly have more time to build.
It's for kingmaker adventure path.
Thank you for reading this.

prototype00 |

So what you're describing here sounds like you want to invest in the Boar style line of feats:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/style-feats
you might also want to go half-orc and take the toothy trait which gives you a bite attack.
I'm not sure you can multiclass Barbarians and Monks, don't you have to be chaotic to be a barbarian and lawful to be a monk?
prototype00

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Well, go with the Martial Artist Monk Archetype, and likely the Brutal Pugilist Barbarian one. Be non-Lawful.
If you want a Str/Wis race, I believe there's at least one Tiefling variety with that, and the Oread also have it.
And Rage Powers can grant claws. I'm a big fan of Half-Orcs with a bite attack and Beast Totem for my natural weapon needs on a Barbarian.

galahad2112 |
I always thought that taking drunken master for 4 levels, then finding out that he's a mean drunk and gets booted from the monastery, would be a good starting place for a drunken brute/savage barbarian combo. I mean, the synergy is amazing, and the RP writes itself. Also, as far as I know, you can change your alignment just fine, but you'll never be able to take another level of monk.

Munkir |

So what you're describing here sounds like you want to invest in the Boar style line of feats:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/style-feats
you might also want to go half-orc and take the toothy trait which gives you a bite attack.
I'm not sure you can multiclass Barbarians and Monks, don't you have to be chaotic to be a barbarian and lawful to be a monk?
prototype00
This is really cool and something I am going to look into I doubt I am required to be a Orc/goblinoid type creature.
Thanks again for all the input.

Munkir |

Well, go with the Martial Artist Monk Archetype, and likely the Brutal Pugilist Barbarian one. Be non-Lawful.
If you want a Str/Wis race, I believe there's at least one Tiefling variety with that, and the Oread also have it.
And Rage Powers can grant claws. I'm a big fan of Half-Orcs with a bite attack and Beast Totem for my natural weapon needs on a Barbarian.
I know barb can get claw attacks with rage power but that's a rage power invested into it

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I know barb can get claw attacks with rage power but that's a rage power invested into it
True, but Lesser Beast Totem's also a prerequisite for Beast Totem which is a decent AC boost...so I'm inclined to say it's worth it. And, eventually, Greater Beast Totem, which grants Pounce (if you ever get to Barbarian 10).

Munkir |

We are playing kingmaker idk what's the cap but I'm sure it's past 10. You make a good point thank you.
Now is there any creatures that haven't been mentioned yet?
My GM is pretty open as long as its not braking the game he allows it he even said I coud take templets like ogerkin(though I don't want Ogki) . So I feel like I should really take everything into mind when building this.
This will be my main char he will ultimately be my all time fav char I have built the RP and I have deep connections with the name and background so I'm trying to take everything into account.

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Is there an AL requirement for Master of many styles archetype?
I can't seem to find it.
Archetypes only change the core class's Alignment Restrictions if they say they do. MoMS does not, so it's Lawful Only, just like the standard Monk.
However, it doesn't overlap at all with Martial Artist, so you can take both, avoiding the Alignment Restrictions that way.

Munkir |

Thank you DeadManWalking your very helpful.
Im back and forth on this really I know I want it to be monk and I like barbarians but it doesn't have to be a barbarian.
I'm probably going to stick with monk/barbarian but I don't really see anything wonderful about the Martial Artist unless I'm missing something
I really love styles I just got a look at them and it blew me away. But while styles add that flare I urn for but they don't have the bulk like rage or overhand chop. Now I'm thinking Monk of many Styles/2H fighter
Sorry for being indecisive.

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Thank you DeadManWalking your very helpful.
You're very welcome. Always happy to be of help. :)
I'm probably going to stick with monk/barbarian but I don't really see anything wonderful about the Martial Artist unless I'm missing something
It's alright, but basically it removes the Alignment restriction so that Barbarian/Monk actually works.

darkwarriorkarg |
I'm probably going to stick with monk/barbarian but I don't really see anything wonderful about the Martial Artist unless I'm missing something
As stated, the alignment restriction (so you can progress as a monk and barbarian)
There is also this feature:
Extreme Endurance (Ex)
At 5th level, a martial artist gains immunity to fatigue. At 10th level, he also gains immunity to exhaustion. At 15th level, he gains immunity to stunning. At 20th level, he gains immunity to death effects and energy drain.
This ability replaces purity of body, diamond body, and perfect self.
Don't know about you, but immunity to fatigue might be valuable to someone who has rage...

galahad2112 |
Seriously, the Drunken Master and Drunken Brute with Savage Barbarian work incredibly well together. After 4 levels of monk, you've got your ki pool, and you can get temporary ki by drinking. Once you take barbarian at all you can rage indefinitely AND stockpile "temporary" ki, maybe burn a point a round for +4 dodge bonus to AC? Then just unload on some poor schmuck with a stunning fist and 2 or 3 more attacks while raging. Besides, with the monk's great saves, it makes the Good for what ails you rage power really nice.

Quandary |

How are you getting around the fact that you can't combine the class because of alignment restrictions?
as posted, he's using the no-alignment-restriction martial artist archetype...
but there definitely isn't a 'fact' that you can't combine the classes.starting out monk, becoming chaotic, and progressing thru barbarian is more than viable, and you retain all monk abilities (although armor would shut down some abilities, and non-monk weapons can't be flurried, etc).
i'm planning on playing such a character who from level 1 is a chaotic monk, i.e. can't progress further in monk while he's chaotic, who was adopted/kidnapped by an evil tendency monatery and learned their ways, but eventually escaped and reverted to fully chaotic, even more than he originally was, in opposition to the strictures he had lived under. that is PFS-legal.