What easter eggs does Golarion have for other campaigns?


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Lately I've been noticing a number of references, ranging from the very subtle to the rather obvious, made in various Pathfinder products that, while ostensibly talking about Golarion and its cosmology, are nods towards D&D (and, more rarely, other recognizable places).

This thread is the place to list them. Here a few to start things off:

1) The Cthulhu Mythos - the references to Cthulhu himself note that he's "trapped under an ocean on a distant world" (e.g. Earth).

2) Orcus - Orcus is noted as being preoccupied by events on other worlds and planes (e.g. the D&D campaign worlds).

3) The Witchwar Legacy

Spoiler:
The revelation at the end of the adventure subtly indicates that Tashanna eventually became Greyhawk's Iggwilv.

What other such easter eggs have been found?

Dark Archive

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Just the first two you listed. But I would be interested in seeing if anyone else has found any.

Silver Crusade

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The Great Beyond is one big nod to Planescape.


If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond, and in the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, there's the infamous Ghostbusters reference.


And it's also pretty clear that Akiton the Red and Castrovel the Green are heavily influenced by pulp-era literary depictions of Mars and Venus.

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Kajehase wrote:
If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond

There is?


The Caves of Chaos from B2 Keep on the Borderlands is near the Worldwound. This is fairly explicit in the PFCS (in a roundabout way, p151) but was excised from the ISWG.


What ghostbusters reference?


Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond
There is?

Having checked... memory didn't serve. Darn. Maybe the PCCS? It was a mention of a hall with solars chained to something...? Did I dream this?

Dark Archive

gigglestick wrote:
What ghostbusters reference?

Google search reveals that there's a reference to a Slohr, as in "many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Slohr that day, I can tell you." I don't know where the reference is, though - I just read that book and didn't catch it.

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There is also the "infamous" Skull Island reference in "Seven Days to the Grave."

Spoiler:
One of the crates in the Hospice.


A very few orc tribes worship a "one-eyed god."

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Kajehase wrote:
Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond
There is?
Having checked... memory didn't serve. Darn. Maybe the PCCS? It was a mention of a hall with solars chained to something...? Did I dream this?

There was a location with a bunch of crucified/hung from the walls celestials in BotD III. Was that what you're thinking of?

If that's similar to something in Ptolus, it wasn't intentional. I've never actually read Ptolus, so it'd be difficult for me to give it an easter egg. ;)


Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond
There is?
Having checked... memory didn't serve. Darn. Maybe the PCCS? It was a mention of a hall with solars chained to something...? Did I dream this?

There was a location with a bunch of crucified/hung from the walls celestials in BotD III. Was that what you're thinking of?

If that's similar to something in Ptolus, it wasn't intentional. I've never actually read Ptolus, so it'd be difficult for me to give it an easter egg. ;)

Found it! In the Bestiary, as it turns out, so not quite a Golarion-specific easter egg: "On one world, a group of solars patrols the energy conduits of the sun, alert for any attempts by evil races such as drow to snuff out the light and bring eternal darkness. On another, seven solars stand watch over seven mystical chains keeping evil gods bound within a prison demiplane."

The bolded part being the Ptolus-reference (which is followed by a reference to the Angel with the Flaming Sword from the Bible).

Spoiler:
And thank god I did find it, this has been bugging me all morning.

Dark Archive

PulpCruciFiction wrote:
gigglestick wrote:
What ghostbusters reference?
Google search reveals that there's a reference to a Slohr, as in "many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Slohr that day, I can tell you." I don't know where the reference is, though - I just read that book and didn't catch it.

Found it. It's on page 202 - the timeline mentions that the Arthfell Forest was trampled by a Slohr.

Grand Lodge

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Kajehase wrote:
Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
Todd Stewart wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
If memory serves, there's one for Ptolus in The Great Beyond
There is?
Having checked... memory didn't serve. Darn. Maybe the PCCS? It was a mention of a hall with solars chained to something...? Did I dream this?

There was a location with a bunch of crucified/hung from the walls celestials in BotD III. Was that what you're thinking of?

If that's similar to something in Ptolus, it wasn't intentional. I've never actually read Ptolus, so it'd be difficult for me to give it an easter egg. ;)

Found it! In the Bestiary, as it turns out, so not quite a Golarion-specific easter egg: "On one world, a group of solars patrols the energy conduits of the sun, alert for any attempts by evil races such as drow to snuff out the light and bring eternal darkness. On another, seven solars stand watch over seven mystical chains keeping evil gods bound within a prison demiplane."

The bolded part being the Ptolus-reference (which is followed by a reference to the Angel with the Flaming Sword from the Bible).

** spoiler omitted **

Keep in mind that the use of the number Seven is rather deeply rooted in Western culture.


One of my favorite easter eggs was the Mask of the Red Death reference in Seven Days to the Grave. Then there is the reference to Nicholas Flamel in Seven Swords of Sin. It's one of the things I like most about Paizo and Pathfinder is they draw from history and culture to make the world of Golarion come alive.


This wasn't a reference to other campaigns, but in the GameMastery Guide, there's a shout-out to the 1st-edition AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide that I noticed.

Specifically, in the NPC Gallery-- Prostitute flavor text, there's a direct reference to the "Random Harlot Table" from that venerable book. (Yes, the 1st-edition DMG had a random harlot table.)


Kingmaker is filled with loads of references to Keep on the Borderlands, but I don't want to spoil it for those playing.

And in Council of Thieves, one of the thieves' guilds draws on a Fritz Lieberman Lankmar story.


rkraus2 wrote:

Kingmaker is filled with loads of references to Keep on the Borderlands, but I don't want to spoil it for those playing.

And in Council of Thieves, one of the thieves' guilds draws on a Fritz Lieberman Lankmar story.

Please, spoil it, just put it in a spoiler tab...

Frog God Games

There's an homage or two in The Impossible Eye.

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There are a few easter eggs to the works of Clark Ashton Smith in The Great Beyond.

Silver Crusade

Curse of the Crimson Throne:

Spoiler:
A rat monkey crate from S.(kull) Island can be found in a warehouse. Braindead/Dead Alive shoutout.

Escape from Old Korvosa/Escape from New York

Skeletons of Scarwall's introduction opens with a famous quote from Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest.

I've heard tell that one NPC's character art from Legacy of Fire is basically an old man with the famous awesome-emoticon expression.

Halflings of Golarion literally has a halfling Dio.


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And speaking of Legacy of Fire - let's not forget the homage to Gary Teter's late cat.


The whole Baba Yaga thing is not only a reference to the Russian fairy tale, but also ties Golarion to the Forgotten Realms. That old hag has been very busy.


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There's an homage or two in The Impossible Eye.

Could you be a bit more specific?

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Toadkiller Dog wrote:
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There's an homage or two in The Impossible Eye.
Could you be a bit more specific?

Can't remember them all, but there's at least one illustration of a room that should look fairly familiar to the old school gamer.


Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Toadkiller Dog wrote:
Quote:
There's an homage or two in The Impossible Eye.
Could you be a bit more specific?
Can't remember them all, but there's at least one illustration of a room that should look fairly familiar to the old school gamer.

Pg 29? If so, I know some old-schoolers that will have a field day with that "homage".


The entire Silver Mount area of Numeria is a reference to the old adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks , which was a vessel to sell the TSR game that would later be known as Gamma World.

Shadow Lodge

Absalom and the Eye of Abendego have their names drawn from the Bible.

Ninshabur evokes a 3.0 supplement called "Blood City of Nishanbur" I believe. That draws its name from the real-world historical city of Nishapur.


InVinoVeritas wrote:
Absalom and the Eye of Abendego have their names drawn from the Bible.

Abendego is neither spelled nor pronounced the same as the biblical Abednego, however. :)

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Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now. The real-world Nishapur is correct, as are the two Bible references you mention (though I changed the name of Abednego because I thought it sounded cooler and I didn't want a direct reference to the whole Shadrach/furnace thing for the hurricane.

Shadow Lodge

Joana wrote:
InVinoVeritas wrote:
Absalom and the Eye of Abendego have their names drawn from the Bible.
Abendego is neither spelled nor pronounced the same as the biblical Abednego, however. :)

Not to the Biblical Abednego, no, but to the commonly used pseudo-Biblical Abendego, referring to the same companion of Shadrach and Meshach, of course.

ETA: And yes, Abendego sounds far cooler.

Shadow Lodge

Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now. The real-world Nishapur is correct, as are the two Bible references you mention (though I changed the name of Abednego because I thought it sounded cooler and I didn't want a direct reference to the whole Shadrach/furnace thing for the hurricane.

Does this mean that the inspiration for the name of the Pit of Gormuz was the Strait of Hormuz?

I wasn't sure about it being a reference to the earlier supplement (which was 3rd party). I can't remember if I happen to have a copy or not; I'll have to check my library.


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Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now.

The actual d20 product is Blood Reign of Nishanpur, a 3.0 adventure for the Arcanis campaign setting by Paradigm Concepts. The city name is likely based on the same Biblical reference.

Shadow Lodge

Alzrius wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now.
The actual d20 product is Blood Reign of Nishanpur, a 3.0 adventure for the Arcanis campaign setting by Paradigm Concepts. The city name is likely based on the same Biblical reference.

Aha, right, thank you Alzirus! Now I remember. Nishanpur was the capital of Carceri, an evil kingdom that has elements that were kind of like Nidal or Cheliax--not that I feel that it was the precursor to those Golarion nations, there are plenty of differences. I remember speaking to them about reskinning the Master of Chains prestige class to a group of elite warriors for the nation called the Catenari.

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InVinoVeritas wrote:
ETA: And yes, Abendego sounds far cooler.

I also like to believe that he rejiggered the spelling to slant rhyme with a certain Cajun, Gulf Coast native, freelancer's name. ;)

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Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now. The real-world Nishapur is correct, as are the two Bible references you mention (though I changed the name of Abednego because I thought it sounded cooler and I didn't want a direct reference to the whole Shadrach/furnace thing for the hurricane.

Amusing Bible trivia:

The "fiery furnace" pericope is in the book of Daniel, as the 3 guys were youths in Chaldean Babylon along with Daniel himself. However, we still in common culture remember Daniel by his Hebrew name (rather than his Babylonian name, Belteshazzar), but the three boys by their Babylonian names of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (rather than their Hebrew names of Hananiah, Azariah, and Mishael).

Then again, using the Babylonian names facilitates one of the oldest puns in the black Baptist denomination (certainly in my experience in it dating back to the 80s), talking about the story of "Shadrach, Meshach, and a bad negro." :) I've probably heard 10 different preachers use that joke, and it always brings a laugh, groan, or both from the congregation.


This brings up an interesting question: to what, in the Golarion context, does "Abendego" refer? Who or what was it, and why is the storm named for its eye?

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KoboldSorcerrer wrote:
The entire Silver Mount area of Numeria is a reference to the old adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks , which was a vessel to sell the TSR game that would later be known as Gamma World.

Ummm....

Not exactly. "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks" was directly a link between D&D and the TSR game "Metamorphosis Alpha", and it is through "Metamorphosis Alpha" that the link extends to "Gamma World".

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Jason Nelson wrote:

Amusing Bible trivia:

The "fiery furnace" pericope is in the book of Daniel, as the 3 guys were youths in Chaldean Babylon along with Daniel himself. However, we still in common culture remember Daniel by his Hebrew name (rather than his Babylonian name, Belteshazzar), but the three boys by their Babylonian names of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (rather than their Hebrew names of Hananiah, Azariah, and Mishael).

Then again, using the Babylonian names facilitates one of the oldest puns in the black Baptist denomination (certainly in my experience in it dating back to the 80s), talking about the story of "Shadrach, Meshach, and a bad negro." :) I've probably heard 10 different preachers use that joke, and it always brings a laugh, groan, or both from the congregation.

Hmm, something I'll have to remember to torment my sister on (Masters of Theology). Is Belteshazzar where we get Belthezar from, or is that a different origin?


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Kajehase wrote:
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Found it! In the Bestiary, as it turns out, so not quite a Golarion-specific easter egg: "On one world, a group of solars patrols the energy conduits of the sun, alert for any attempts by evil races such as drow to snuff out the light and bring eternal darkness.

OCC:

Why is everyone again me showing up anywhere? I'm heart brokent. And I have solars looking for me too.

Shadow Lodge

Matthew Morris wrote:
Hmm, something I'll have to remember to torment my sister on (Masters of Theology). Is Belteshazzar where we get Belthezar from, or is that a different origin?

Not quite.

Belteshazzar is a name referring to a prince Bel, or "Bel protect the king." Balthazar comes from the Babylonian king Belshazzar, and that name means "Baal protect the king." Bel and Baal were Babylonian deities, with Bel being older, kind of a sun god alongside Marduk, and Baal starting out having a tradition as a ruler-god throughout the Fertile Crescent, but eventually rejected by Judaism, and turned into an adversary, with the name used in devils like Belial and Baalzebul.

Incidentally, King Belshazzar is in the Book of Daniel, and is the king that witnesses the Writing on the Wall.

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Thanks InVinoVeritas. Always interested in linguistic evolution.

Silver Crusade

Balthazar is also the name of one of the three magi who visited the infant jesus in the gospel of Matthew.


ElyasRavenwood wrote:
Balthazar is also the name of one of the three magi who visited the infant jesus in the gospel of Matthew.

Traditionally. The Bible not only doesn't name them but doesn't give a number. They just brought three gifts so people decided there must have been three of them.

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InVinoVeritas wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now. The real-world Nishapur is correct, as are the two Bible references you mention (though I changed the name of Abednego because I thought it sounded cooler and I didn't want a direct reference to the whole Shadrach/furnace thing for the hurricane.

Does this mean that the inspiration for the name of the Pit of Gormuz was the Strait of Hormuz?

I wasn't sure about it being a reference to the earlier supplement (which was 3rd party). I can't remember if I happen to have a copy or not; I'll have to check my library.

Yes, probably, though in this case I think the influence may have been subliminal.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Alzrius wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Ninshabur has nothing to do with "Blood City of Nishanbur," which I'd never heard of until now.
The actual d20 product is Blood Reign of Nishanpur, a 3.0 adventure for the Arcanis campaign setting by Paradigm Concepts. The city name is likely based on the same Biblical reference.

Yeah, it occurred to me last night after posting that I actually HAD heard of this product (and likely mentioned it in Polyhedron news round-ups when it came out), but it was not a direct influence upon the nation in Golarion.

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InVinoVeritas wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Hmm, something I'll have to remember to torment my sister on (Masters of Theology). Is Belteshazzar where we get Belthezar from, or is that a different origin?

Not quite.

Belteshazzar is a name referring to a prince Bel, or "Bel protect the king." Balthazar comes from the Babylonian king Belshazzar, and that name means "Baal protect the king." Bel and Baal were Babylonian deities, with Bel being older, kind of a sun god alongside Marduk, and Baal starting out having a tradition as a ruler-god throughout the Fertile Crescent, but eventually rejected by Judaism, and turned into an adversary, with the name used in devils like Belial and Baalzebul.

Incidentally, King Belshazzar is in the Book of Daniel, and is the king that witnesses the Writing on the Wall.

Isn't one of the Three Magi named Balthazaar?

Anyway, Marduk is a god in D&D (and the arch-enemy of the Chromatic Dragon Tiamat), and Bel is a pit fiend in charge of the first layer of Hell.

The early AD&D guys were all over their ancient religion sourcebooks.

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Joana wrote:
ElyasRavenwood wrote:
Balthazar is also the name of one of the three magi who visited the infant jesus in the gospel of Matthew.
Traditionally. The Bible not only doesn't name them but doesn't give a number. They just brought three gifts so people decided there must have been three of them.

According to Wikipedia, Balthasar was King of Arabia, and his name seems to be traced to a Greek manuscript about 500 AD.

It's really amusing to me how much of "Biblical" (meaning explicitly non-Biblical) history and facts in truth come from what amounts to early fan fiction.

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