So why don't you just stop doing circles around them and act as a buffer. Make them better with the spells you cast. That's the beauty of the wizard, they can change roles daily.
Stick with the character you have and use different spells. First round of combat, cast Haste. Second round of combat, Dimension Door the rest of the party next to the primary target. Start casting offensive spells the third round of combat.
Ask the DM to increase monster saves based on how much higher your DCs are compared to Paizo's iconics.
Or work on battle field control. I have a PC with a ring of the ram, and another PC has wall of fire, so we like to bull rush opponents into the walls of fire. Teamwork for the win!
Or start investing on item creation feats. Make some Wondrous Items or Arms and Armor for your allies, and help them that way.
Or take a level of fighter, then go eldritch knight for your last 5 levels. It delays your spellcasting, and lets you tank a bit. Maybe DD into flanking positions with the rogue?
An overland flight spell once per day will really help the paladin. Mage Armor might help the monk. Greater Invisiblity to help the rogue sneak attack.
Or use Quicken Spell to fill some of your high level slots with low level buffs. A Quickened Haste and then DD will seem like a really fun ambush.
Maybe summon 1 big bad monster, and then spend the rest of the combat buffing it?
Hiya.
I hope this doesn't derail the thread...but how does a wizard get this powerful anyway? We played 3.5 for about 3 years or so...I even played a wizard up to level 16. I was *easily* the most useless (in terms of combat) of the group every step of the way. Can somebody point me to a forum or something that has these so-called "uber-builds"?
EDIT: Is this feeling based on the "4-encounter per day" thing? That's the only thing I can think of...
Anyway, my suggestion...use the PHB and only the PHB. Build a wizard around characterization and not optimization. That may help I guess.
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Paul L. Ming
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Hiya.
I hope this doesn't derail the thread...but how does a wizard get this powerful anyway? We played 3.5 for about 3 years or so...I even played a wizard up to level 16. I was *easily* the most useless (in terms of combat) of the group every step of the way. Can somebody point me to a forum or something that has these so-called "uber-builds"?
EDIT: Is this feeling based on the "4-encounter per day" thing? That's the only thing I can think of...
Anyway, my suggestion...use the PHB and only the PHB. Build a wizard around characterization and not optimization. That may help I guess.
^_^
Paul L. Ming
I do believe that the wizards power level is best established by Treantmonks Guide http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/community-creations/treatmonks-lab/test and I think the wizard had the potential of being even more powerful in 3.5 with the right selection of broken spells
Play a blaster. Just swap out your spell book or stop memorizing the good spells and blast people apart. You get tons of damage dice to play with and make peoples heads explode but you're not the ONLY one doing that.
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I'm sorry this is ridiculous, I'm calling the OP a troll.
You're post reeks of anti-caster agenda.
There are three other players in the party that are a tier 3 or tier 4 class (monk, rogue, paladin who plays our healer.) I'm just running circles around everyone,
This statement just proves my point. Claiming that Monks, Rogues and Paladin are somehow lesser classes is bunk.
Either the players of these classes don't know what they are doing or your DM is failing at crafting an appropriate adventure.
Spell casters become powerful when one well placed spell wins an encounter.
If this happens regularly your DM is doing a poor job, i'm sorry.
Examples: level 4 sorcerer casts pyrotechnics and blinds 2 out of 4 enemies in what would be a tough fight. Cutting their damage in half made it easy.
The DM left them blundering around in the cloud for 4 rounds?
Say character vs a bbeg running away from us. Chaining 5 grease spells means he could jot get away and thus died.
Need some environment details to really argue this one. But the grease should have been just as much a hindrance to the party as the BBEG they were chasing.
Then at level 5 in a cave fighting 40 orcs. Cast pyrotechnics as a smoke cloud prevented their javlins destroying our goblin allies. Followed up by our druid casting stone shape to make a trench cutting their force in half so we only fight 20 of them.
okay there are a dozen ways i could pick on this.. but even 20 orcs verse a 5th level party.. someone should die. Your DM is doing it wrong.
Assuming the OP isn't trolling...
Work with the GM on an in-game limit.
"The wizard has hosed up the plans of the demon godess Hurung. The Hurung's avatar showes up at breakfast and curses you (repeat castings until fail a save) -6 on primary casting stat. The avatar says she will leave the curse on you until you make amends. Or you can try to kiss-up to one of the other gods so they will remove it."
I think like others have said revising your spell list is a better idea then creating a new character (and losing all the history your current one has at level 15).
For instance, if only the rogue can fly on their own, prepare a couple flys Or a mass fly. It can be a real help to the party AND it keeps everyone in the flight when flying enemies show up. Remember the paladin in full plate doesnt need ranks in fly to fly, just to do coplicated manuevers (though he could probably justify a few ranks as he levels up further or you could craft him a fly skill boosting item).
Make use of spells like polymorph to boost your party instead of taking enemies out yourself. The rest of the party will end up shining more, and you dont have to give up your wizard. Its just a matter of possibly rearranging your spellbook or just preparing a different set of spells.
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First, check with the other players if they share this feeling. If they don't see what you are talking about and feel that they have fun adventuring with your character (inckuding during combat) then no need for further worry.
If the feeling is shared, ask them for ideas on how your character can help their character so that they get more fun from the experience.
Usually, in the end of such a constructive collective process on the players' part, the GM will start crying (because he has to strengthen all his encounters from now on).
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"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
(If you don't recognize that quote, go watch The Princess Bride and come back. I'll wait. :)
A quote later in the film, about an impending swordfight: "I'm going to do him left-handed. It is the only way I can be satisfied. If I use my right (hand) - over too quickly."
Just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean you have to. Try to aim for making the game fun for all of the players instead of dominating, and you will satisfy your goals while allowing the other players and GM to have a better chance of satisfying theirs.
Yeah, use your magic to help everyone have fun. Maybe summon a flanker for the rogue, enlarge the monk, maybe drop some walls of stone to channel the BBEG towards the Smiteful Paladin, etc. etc.
Why not just use your mechanical knowledge to help them play better? <--Someone probably already mentioned it, but if not then there you go.
Play a sorcerer instead of a wizard. You may be amazed at the difference when you don't have the ability to prepare and adapt.
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1) Usually one encounter. We have only had one dungeon crawl the whole game. It is largely a political/moral game, and we are right about to go on our second crawl, where I already know more issues are going to come up. We usually end up with one BBEG or one rather large battle.2) We are almost never on a tight schedule.
3) Very rarely. He tends to run agro by damage, size and aggression. He actually has a formula, and the way I play I rarely enter that formula. As I am a controller/summoner I rarely bring direct heat on myself, though I try to be ready for it anyway...
IMO this is the real problem. These three answers say that the campaign is practically designed to turn a prepared spell caster into an unstopable force. Any wizard or even a cleric should be king in this circumstance.
A single encounter so the wizard can go nova with all of his highest level spells.
No schedule so all the time in the world to prepare whatever you think are the best spells.
And the 3rd answer is the worst. Unless you are only up against unintelligent beasts, this is just stupid. Any semi-intelligent opponent should be able to understand that the controller/summoner is a very serious threat. Even kobalds and goblins are smart enough to target the wizard. Anything more intelligent than that should be forming specific plans to deal with a powerful spell caster. The agro formula is obviously not working. Even a very simplistic morpg AI take into account that the damage from summoned monsters and opponents taken out of the fight my a controller is attribuatble to the caster.
Talk to your GM he needs to do some work and think about what the opponents are doing.
And there you have it.