Probably the two-for-one special at the drive-thru. I mean, he does eat, right? And other bodily functions?Why would I teleport in to attack while you're flying? I'll just wait until you land for the night (or day, depending on whether you're a diurnal or nocturnal barbarian) and zap you then.Mounts immune to fatigue.
Why would he ever land?
Nothing stops him from catching food mid-air, then using prestidigitation to cook it.
Nothing stops him from catching food mid-air, then using prestidigitation to cook it.Probably the two-for-one special at the drive-thru. I mean, he does eat, right? And other bodily functions?Why would I teleport in to attack while you're flying? I'll just wait until you land for the night (or day, depending on whether you're a diurnal or nocturnal barbarian) and zap you then.Mounts immune to fatigue.
Why would he ever land?
Not having presridigitation stops that, but since he loves his RAW...
It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?
It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?
Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
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Turkeys don't fly, and you don't land.It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
In golarion they do.
I certainly could, but for the moment I want to keep it a trade secret until the build is finalized. Got an email I could forward it to?This thread, hilarity.
HEROLAB TO THE RESCUE!
Trinam.
Can you list the feats you know AM has, as well as his rage powers?
I'll also need to know your stat progression and traits.
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In golarion they do.Turkeys don't fly, and you don't land.It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
...nope. Gravity's too high. They're entirely landbound. Those are actually oversized pigeons you're seeing way up there in the sky.
get the mount a ring of sustenance. now it doesn't need to eat and thus never needs a potty break either.
Rings cost money, and survival checks in midair are free. Also you might accidentally poop on an invisible casty with mind blank.
...nope. Gravity's too high. They're entirely landbound. Those are actually oversized pigeons you're seeing way up there in the sky.In golarion they do.Turkeys don't fly, and you don't land.It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
What about if they're 5th level wizards?
I certainly could, but for the moment I want to keep it a trade secret until the build is finalized. Got an email I could forward it to?This thread, hilarity.
HEROLAB TO THE RESCUE!
Trinam.
Can you list the feats you know AM has, as well as his rage powers?
** spoiler omitted **
I'll also need to know your stat progression and traits.
I'll fire it off sometime after work. Lots of typing.
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What about if they're 5th level wizards?...nope. Gravity's too high. They're entirely landbound. Those are actually oversized pigeons you're seeing way up there in the sky.In golarion they do.Turkeys don't fly, and you don't land.It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
Possibly, but their favored class is sorceror, and that clearly makes it much less likely. You'd never survive on a diet of just that.
The build itself is still incomplete, all I have are preliminary (and low estimate) numbers.. But that's enough. You are looking at a +31 with reroll at your worst save, which is will. You have a charge radius of 860 feet with ride-by attack, and your mount has a vision range of 730ish ft while speaking common to coordinate.
Leadership mounts are awesome. Anyways, this means anything but a diviner loses first strike, and the diviner can't see you to do anything offensive.
Your RAGELANCEPOUNCE is ~+47/47/42/37/32 for 3d8+150, +168 vs castys.
You can also spell sunder, with strength surge at a +67 total. Your mount has dragon style for charging through hindering terrain.
The specifics are still being worked, but the character was done on 20 pb. I will have a full build sometime before the wizard advocates ever post one.
Amazing how much information is included in Trinam's OP.
I guess it's a bit much to ask to have people read the whole thing before they get involved, but this really is going in circles now.For my money, AM's point is proven and job is done.
Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
The build itself is still incomplete, all I have are preliminary (and low estimate) numbers.. But that's enough. You are looking at a +31 with reroll at your worst save, which is will. You have a charge radius of 860 feet with ride-by attack, and your mount has a vision range of 730ish ft while speaking common to coordinate.
Leadership mounts are awesome. Anyways, this means anything but a diviner loses first strike, and the diviner can't see you to do anything offensive.
Your RAGELANCEPOUNCE is ~+47/47/42/37/32 for 3d8+150, +168 vs castys.
You can also spell sunder, with strength surge at a +67 total. Your mount has dragon style for charging through hindering terrain.
The specifics are still being worked, but the character was done on 20 pb. I will have a full build sometime before the wizard advocates ever post one.
Amazing how much information is included in Trinam's OP.
I guess it's a bit much to ask to have people read the whole thing before they get involved, but this really is going in circles now.
For my money, AM's point is proven and job is done.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.
Possibly, but their favored class is sorceror, and that clearly makes it much less likely. You'd never survive on a diet of just that.What about if they're 5th level wizards?...nope. Gravity's too high. They're entirely landbound. Those are actually oversized pigeons you're seeing way up there in the sky.In golarion they do.Turkeys don't fly, and you don't land.It's a 350g wand and I'm guessing batty has UMD?Yeah, but it doesn't have hands. Maybe trade blindsense for hands...?
Oh. I got it. Put flaming on the Observed State. Completely pointless for killing things harder, but it can cook a turkey.
True, but druid also get fly, and you need to factor in the number if turkey druids polymorphed into birds with horrible luck.
No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.The build itself is still incomplete, all I have are preliminary (and low estimate) numbers.. But that's enough. You are looking at a +31 with reroll at your worst save, which is will. You have a charge radius of 860 feet with ride-by attack, and your mount has a vision range of 730ish ft while speaking common to coordinate.
Leadership mounts are awesome. Anyways, this means anything but a diviner loses first strike, and the diviner can't see you to do anything offensive.
Your RAGELANCEPOUNCE is ~+47/47/42/37/32 for 3d8+150, +168 vs castys.
You can also spell sunder, with strength surge at a +67 total. Your mount has dragon style for charging through hindering terrain.
The specifics are still being worked, but the character was done on 20 pb. I will have a full build sometime before the wizard advocates ever post one.
Amazing how much information is included in Trinam's OP.
I guess it's a bit much to ask to have people read the whole thing before they get involved, but this really is going in circles now.
For my money, AM's point is proven and job is done.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
Them being Castys would pretty much make it a dietary staple for AM. And even if they don't fly, you'd never have to land. Your lance has reach. Just pass a few feet overhead and spear one.
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No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
See, this is what's wrong with you martial types. You have no understanding of how a caster thinks. Sorceror turkeys NEVER take fly. It's...suboptimal. Well, for them.
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See, this is what's wrong with you martial types. You have no understanding of how a caster thinks. Sorceror turkeys NEVER take fly. It's...suboptimal. Well, for them.No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
But then they lose to mounted TURKBARIANS with a synthesist turkey hawk mount.
"As the heavens trembled from the shattering of the stars the Caster-Martial Disparity God merely watched and fed. As the magic users of the world increasingly grew into hermits that shied away from human company and the sight of harmless birds while normal men saw them all but disappear from the mortal realm the Caster-Martial Disparity God merely waited. As knights in armor atop ancient beasts pierced the veil between worlds the caster-martial disparity god watched. Writhing in its lair of pure oblivion surrounded by billions of its repulsive young the Caster-Martial Disaparity god watched as flightless birds took wing and soared into the skies. Still, it waited."
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* The petite Aasimaar girl in white robes was simply harvesting honey from the beehives of Varisia, picking berries from the local bushes, singing cheerfully. acting as clueless and naive as usual. she sought no conflict with barbarians. instead bribing them with freshly created water to spare her frail, angelic, oracular life. *
ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?
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But then they lose to mounted TURKBARIANS with a synthesist turkey hawk mount.See, this is what's wrong with you martial types. You have no understanding of how a caster thinks. Sorceror turkeys NEVER take fly. It's...suboptimal. Well, for them.No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
...aaand you've fallen right into my trap. See, the sorceror turkeys are just the cohorts for the rabbit-mages, who cast chickenhawk transformation on the turkbarians, changing them into small, puffed up pullets.
But then they lose to mounted TURKBARIANS with a synthesist turkey hawk mount.See, this is what's wrong with you martial types. You have no understanding of how a caster thinks. Sorceror turkeys NEVER take fly. It's...suboptimal. Well, for them.No, no. I think we need to pursue the subject of flying sorcerer turkeys and diets founded thereupon further. I get the feeling this is going somewhere awesome.Nothing can actually increase the conversation now besides a posted build, IMHO.
I can accept this...as long as the turkey in question is a Terror Bird. Fly spell is optional.
Tark, I'm going to need to see a stat block on C-M D God if this is to continue.
I mean, how can we really know his true power until we see a build?
I think the best part of AM BARBARIAN is the engineering degree.
THE WHATSIT. WATER CASTY CAN COME WITH, BARBAIAN TIRED OF HOLDING MOUTH OPEN AND FLYING THROUGH CLOUDS.
please don't kill Dawn, she has done nothing wrong. she is my pet birdy, she merely takes me places. the only pact i ever made is with the dawnflower. dawn was just part of the package. the little Aasimaar girl is shaking in her oversized white robes
Careful, we all know the Dawnflower was once a mortal, but not what class...Saranrae may be able to RAGELANCEPOUNCE you from orbit!
Then again, AM BARBARIAN may be able to sunder death itself!
OK. HERE AM THING. CMDG AM ONLY VULNERABLE TO END IF CMD.
BARBARIAN BEEN SAYING AM NO SUCH DESTRUCITY, ONLY BARBARIAN NOT BARBARIAN DESTRUCITY. HOWEVER, CERTAIN CASTYS WHO BARBARIAN AM NOT NAMING KEEP ARGUING. AN FEEDING GOD. VERY NOT GOOD.
TO BEAT, HARMONY AND BALANCE BETWEEN CLASSES AM NECESSARY. BARBARIAN PRETTY SURE RAGELANCEPOUNCE AM ABLE TO SMASH PUNY GOD. BARBARIAN NOT ABLE TO GET THERE.
BARBARIAN GIVE HALF OF PLAN TO CASTY, LEAVE OTHER HALF TO CASTY FOR BALANCE.
OK?
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please don't kill Dawn, she has done nothing wrong. she is my pet birdy, she merely takes me places. the only pact i ever made is with the dawnflower. dawn was just part of the package. the little Aasimaar girl is shaking in her oversized white robesCareful, we all know the Dawnflower was once a mortal, but not what class...Saranrae may be able to RAGELANCEPOUNCE you from orbit!
Then again, AM BARBARIAN may be able to sunder death itself!
If I cast magic aura on death, AM can sunder it, and the extra damage will pass through to death, right?
If I cast magic aura on death, AM can sunder it, and the extra damage will pass through to death, right?please don't kill Dawn, she has done nothing wrong. she is my pet birdy, she merely takes me places. the only pact i ever made is with the dawnflower. dawn was just part of the package. the little Aasimaar girl is shaking in her oversized white robesCareful, we all know the Dawnflower was once a mortal, but not what class...Saranrae may be able to RAGELANCEPOUNCE you from orbit!
Then again, AM BARBARIAN may be able to sunder death itself!
SPELL SUNDER AM NOT DEAL DAMAGE, ONLY END SPELL.
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SPELL SUNDER AM NOT DEAL DAMAGE, ONLY END SPELL.If I cast magic aura on death, AM can sunder it, and the extra damage will pass through to death, right?please don't kill Dawn, she has done nothing wrong. she is my pet birdy, she merely takes me places. the only pact i ever made is with the dawnflower. dawn was just part of the package. the little Aasimaar girl is shaking in her oversized white robesCareful, we all know the Dawnflower was once a mortal, but not what class...Saranrae may be able to RAGELANCEPOUNCE you from orbit!
Then again, AM BARBARIAN may be able to sunder death itself!
Criminy dutch, what a worthless ability. :D
YEAH, AM ONLY ABLE TO DISPEL ENTIRE PRISMATIC SPREE IN STANDARD ACTION. CLEARLY AM GYP.
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please don't kill Dawn, she has done nothing wrong. she is my pet birdy, she merely takes me places. the only pact i ever made is with the dawnflower. dawn was just part of the package. the little Aasimaar girl is shaking in her oversized white robesCareful, we all know the Dawnflower was once a mortal, but not what class...Saranrae may be able to RAGELANCEPOUNCE you from orbit!
Then again, AM BARBARIAN may be able to sunder death itself!
but she chose me as one of her servants. there is no way that she is even evil enough for such acts of betrayal *Lumi is still shaking*
Tark, I'm going to need to see a stat block on C-M D God if this is to continue.
I mean, how can we really know his true power until we see a build?
Sure, it has the same stats as Sigil's Lady of Pain except instead of having a LN alignment it has an alignment of "Disdain for all that is of the material universe".
ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?
Am Cavalier would but class is subobtimal for dealing with Eldritch Abominations. :(
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ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?Am Cavalier would but class is subobtimal for dealing with Eldritch Abominations. :(
PULL SELF TOGETHER, MAN. AM NEVER HEAR OF ORDER OF DRAGON?
BARBARIAN CHARGE WHEN CAVALIER CHARGE. SMITE WHEN CAVALIER SMITE.
SEVEN BARBARIAN RAGELANCEPOUNCE ALONGSIDE DRAGON CAVALIER IN UNISON.
AN NO SUCH THING AS USELESS CLASS. IF NOT ABLE TO BELIEVE IN SELF, BELIEVE IN BARBARIAN AM BELIEVE IN YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?Am Cavalier would but class is subobtimal for dealing with Eldritch Abominations. :(
PULL SELF TOGETHER, MAN. AM NEVER HEAR OF ORDER OF DRAGON?
BARBARIAN CHARGE WHEN CAVALIER CHARGE. SMITE WHEN CAVALIER SMITE.
SEVEN BARBARIAN RAGELANCEPOUNCE ALONGSIDE DRAGON CAVALIER IN UNISON.
AN NO SUCH THING AS USELESS CLASS. IF NOT ABLE TO BELIEVE IN SELF, BELIEVE IN BARBARIAN AM BELIEVE IN YOU.
Brings tears to my eyes
ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?Am Cavalier would but class is subobtimal for dealing with Eldritch Abominations. :(
PULL SELF TOGETHER, MAN. AM NEVER HEAR OF ORDER OF DRAGON?
BARBARIAN CHARGE WHEN CAVALIER CHARGE. SMITE WHEN CAVALIER SMITE.
SEVEN BARBARIAN RAGELANCEPOUNCE ALONGSIDE DRAGON CAVALIER IN UNISON.
AN NO SUCH THING AS USELESS CLASS. IF NOT ABLE TO BELIEVE IN SELF, BELIEVE IN BARBARIAN AM BELIEVE IN YOU.
Apparantly CHALLANGELANCEPOUNCE can be useful. Not feeling so useless anymore...unless AM CAVALIER has to go into dungeon. Without the mount, class is weaker version of AM FIGHTER.
ANYONE ELSE WANT PUT FEUD ON HOLD TO SMASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION?AM FIGHTY WANT TO STAB SLASH AND BASH ELDRITCH ABOMINATION!
hijo de dios. sooner or later, there'll be an AM COMMONER
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ALLCAPS MARTIALS, Take my Blessing. i invoke the gifts that Dawnflower has bestowed upon me. may your weapons strike true and your intentions remain pure. in the name of my Grandmother, Saint Eclair, i offer this blessing, strike that false deity who dares compromise our harmony. *Lumi announces as she twirls and points to the caster martial disparity god, the massive sleeves of her white oversized robe flowing with her motions*
Bless, CL1st to augment the allcaps martials
Look out the casty is trying to put a spell on you!