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I'd say the oceans count as running water.
Though traditionally, a vampire could cross at high or low tide, which was one of the traditional myths used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
Also, while a vampire could not cross running water by themselves, they could be carried over running water in a boat or over a bridge. This too was a traditional myth used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
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Lathiira |

Lathiira wrote:I'd say the oceans count as running water.Though traditionally, a vampire could cross at high or low tide, which was one of the traditional myths used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
Also, while a vampire could not cross running water by themselves, they could be carried over running water in a boat or over a bridge. This too was a traditional myth used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
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This would still apply IMO. At least, being carried over. Too bad ocean currents are found throughout the oceans; they have played major roles in the discovery of various lands in the real world as well as having major effects on climate.

Bardess |

Lathiira wrote:I'd say the oceans count as running water.Though traditionally, a vampire could cross at high or low tide, which was one of the traditional myths used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
Also, while a vampire could not cross running water by themselves, they could be carried over running water in a boat or over a bridge. This too was a traditional myth used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
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+1. Dracula had serious problems traveling on a ship, but that's the way he went to London and back.

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Digitalelf wrote:+1. Dracula had serious problems traveling on a ship, but that's the way he went to London and back.Lathiira wrote:I'd say the oceans count as running water.Though traditionally, a vampire could cross at high or low tide, which was one of the traditional myths used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
Also, while a vampire could not cross running water by themselves, they could be carried over running water in a boat or over a bridge. This too was a traditional myth used by Bram Stoker in Dracula...
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It was why he forced the crew to run aground. But then again he was so powerful as a vampire he could do funky stuff even confined to his coffin. Or there was just that much evil about him that he attracted malign events and hauntings.

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This would still apply IMO. At least, being carried over. Too bad ocean currents are found throughout the oceans; they have played major roles in the discovery of various lands in the real world as well as having major effects on climate.
Not really an issue in Pathfinder though since Vampires are only effected by running water if they're submerged in it.
Inability to cross it is not actually one of their weaknesses. So being on a boat is no difficulty for them.
I was just wondering if the ocean was basically lava to vampires in pathfinder and the consensus seems to be that it is.

Devilkiller |
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Do note that a vampire with a natural Swim speed doesn't take any damage from being in the water though. From the PRD section on vampires, "Speed: Same as the base creature. If the base creature has a swim speed, the vampire is not unduly harmed by running water."
Fear the boggard vampire, Count Frogula!!! I had a thread a few weeks ago where I was trying to figure out what happens if a vampire (let's presume it is one with a Swim speed) gets forced into Gaseous Form underwater. Creatures in Gaseous Form can't enter water, but what if they're already in water? I think there's no clear rules answer.

DarthEnder |

Do note that a vampire with a natural Swim speed doesn't take any damage from being in the water though. From the PRD section on vampires, "Speed: Same as the base creature. If the base creature has a swim speed, the vampire is not unduly harmed by running water."
Fear the boggard vampire, Count Frogula!!!
Holy crap, that is a crazy coincidence since that's exactly what happened. We had a boggard get turned into a Vampire this week and I was wondering if his days in the water were done.
Well, that managed to perfectly answer my question. Thank you.

Ravingdork |
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Devilkiller wrote:Fear the boggard vampire, Count Frogula!!!Holy crap, that is a crazy coincidence since that's exactly what happened. We had a boggard get turned into a Vampire this week and I was wondering if his days in the water were done.
In my experience I find that people's roleplaying games often aren't as original as the involved roleplayers think.

wraithstrike |

DarthEnder wrote:In my experience I find that people's roleplaying games often aren't as original as the involved roleplayers think.Devilkiller wrote:Fear the boggard vampire, Count Frogula!!!Holy crap, that is a crazy coincidence since that's exactly what happened. We had a boggard get turned into a Vampire this week and I was wondering if his days in the water were done.
It was this post.

Serisan |

wraithstrike wrote:I'm not sure that's actually true though, the sun's size modifier would likely negate any range modifier.
It was the post where you noted by RAW people can't see the sun due to the penalties on perception every 10 feet.
To my knowledge, there is nothing larger than colossal in Pathfinder.

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You mean you can see where it was... your god lied to you :P still, perception checks are to see/hear/smell/taste/feel something... it doesn't matter when or where it happened, only that you noticed thereafter... so no, just because the sun isn't any longer where it was when it emitted light that you are now seeing doesn't make the -1 per 10 ft penalty appropriate.

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