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Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

Kalis will be getting Endure Elements (heat) for himself as part of his Archetype at third level , but that does not help the group as a whole....


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

I think Allia has the right plan: when we get to Eleder, spend some gold on a Wand of Endure Elements (lets see, 50/6 = 8 days of EE before the wand gives out. Yeah, that's worth 750 gp). Argh! Ok, multiple wands, or maybe a ring of something...

D&D is rather unforgiving about this: you can never get over the oppressive heat of the day until you take a feat. Just having it every day for 50 days or so doesn't change you. Unless the GM is extremely kind and gives everyone a bonus feat.


I am extremely kind, but that kindness must be earned. And the reward won't be an additional feat, but rather something more conditionally helpful. But, again, this must be earned. It's up to you to figure out how.


You guys are flying through these combats way too easily. Are you having fun or is it too easy?


Female Human Bard 1AC

It's fun, though I wonder why I learned Grease, should have learned sleep instead, but I thought that would be too cheesy :)

j/k Meraxes :)

What would you rather have? 2 dead PCs every fight? I think for 1st level fights it's ok. It's always tough at that level, a bit too powerful and you have a TPK and a bit too weak and they get killed. Hard to balance, but it will be easier at higher levels (to make challanging encounters that don't wipe us, I mean)


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

I'm running out of psionic power points. Petry's only good for two battles a day at low levels. Pretty soon he's got the choice of 1d3 every other round with Energy Ray, or else he's slashing at them with his spiked gauntlets.


Female Human Bard 1AC
Petronicus Wintrish wrote:
I'm running out of psionic power points. Petry's only good for two battles a day at low levels. Pretty soon he's got the choice of 1d3 every other round with Energy Ray, or else he's slashing at them with his spiked gauntlets.

I'm out of 1st level spells too.

At least I can Inspire for 8 rounds/day even at level 1, so I don't feel completely useless, even if so far I've not hit a single enemy with my whip, I think :)


HP 10/10, 0 NL, AC Chelaxian Human ***INACTIVE*** Life Oracle/1

Part of the issue is that our main divine and arcane casters are spontaneous (oracle & sorcerer), so we can spam a few spells, and so far most of what we've run into has been susceptible to sleep. That, and Kalis is quite the damage machine.


Female Human Bard 1AC
Dragolan Canario wrote:
Part of the issue is that our main divine and arcane casters are spontaneous (oracle & sorcerer), so we can spam a few spells, and so far most of what we've run into has been susceptible to sleep. That, and Kalis is quite the damage machine.

Thanks for ignoring me... I'm spontanious too. And I think psionics are as well.

But doesn't help that Meraxes is pretty much an enchantment/compulsion specialist with his bloodline and Greater Spell Focus. Sleep hits, battle over.

But don't worry, give it 3 more level or so and that spell becomes so utterly useless that its not even worth having anymore. (of course then he probably starts getting save or die spells :) )


HP 10/10, 0 NL, AC Chelaxian Human ***INACTIVE*** Life Oracle/1
Allia Thren wrote:

Thanks for ignoring me... I'm spontanious too. And I think psionics are as well.

But doesn't help that Meraxes is pretty much an enchantment/compulsion specialist with his bloodline and Greater Spell Focus. Sleep hits, battle over.

But don't worry, give it 3 more level or so and that spell becomes so utterly useless that its not even worth having anymore. (of course then he probably starts getting save or die spells :) )

I did say "main;" I thought about Allia, but she's not a full caster. OTOH, grease was an excellent choice, and the bard song has been really useful. The biggest weakness we have as a party is only one full BAB character. If we get into more than a couple of fights a day, we won't have enough buffs to get Allia, Jasper, and Dragolan to where they can hit more than once in a great while.


Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

PF is so unbalanced in favor of melee it is silly. The amount of damage a barbarian or fighter can do, even with an unoptimized build, is just stupid. It also helps that everything that swings at me seems to miss. Means that I don't need as much healing as will probably be needed at higher levels.


Female Human Bard 1AC

At low levels it might seem overpowered damage.
Also, mostly we faught mook-mobs so far, except maybe those 2 giant crabs.

But wait till Meraxes (or maybe Dragolan) gets safe and die spells at higher levels, and your damage won't seem that high anymore.

Also... fighters and barbarians don't really do anything beside damage, so it's only fair they do alot of it (i mean they don't buff the group or heal or anything like that)


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

I'm aiming for the Jack-of-all-Trades character than can hold a longsword as well as blast the enemy from very far away, pick a lock, heal a person, and think outside of the box. On the messageboards I get cries of "magnus!" and "gish!", which I'm not certain what that means. A psion with full manifester levels who can also hold a sword is not multiclassing out of his favored class. I just didn't want to be a stereotypical weak wizard with a toothpick. We're all about the same age here, no old guys leading the youngers into battle and such nonsense.

I'm actually very surprised at our magic-heavy makeup, with a bard no less, instead of the usual Fighter/Paladin/Barbarian/Ranger/Rogue/caster-guy makeup. Now if we just had time to work out our differences and learn to craft together... ;)

Everybody buff the Barbarian, he's the only one with full BAB! If we get a few days off here and there after Petry makes Level 5, he can start crafting psionic tattoos for the party, and those powers will solve a host of problems. Of course, that's if we find/purchase the appropriate material components, and I have a strange feeling self-sufficiency is going to be a mainstay in this adventure path. I don't know what "civilization" exists outside of Eleder.


Female Human Bard 1AC

Yes, I guess soon Enlarge Person on Kalis will be one of the most important buffs. Just have to get Meraxes calmed down enough to cast it :)

Right now Sleep trumps it though it seems.

Petry wrote:
On the messageboards I get cries of "magnus!" and "gish!", which I'm not certain what that means

Magus is a class from UM, 3/4 BAB, up to 6th level spells, alot of stuff for "dual wielding" magic and melee or so I heard.

Gish I believe is a multiclassed fighter/wizard or something. Don't ask me where that name comes from.


I just want to clarify a few things-

Archers have and always will be damage kings. Fighters have a higher damage potential, sure, but how often does a fighter get to full attack? Seriously. Archers do all the time.

Yes, my bloodline power is amazing. :D Monstrous humanoids, animals, you name it I can sleep it. :) Except vermin and undead. I can't wait until deep slumber..The awesomeness will pick back up around that time and then afterwards my awesomeness grows exponentially. I'll be focusing on buffing the group and save or sucks as best I can for everyone.

Sleep has and will remain to be a fantastic spell. Useless vs undead, elves, half-elves, and vermin.. but still great.


If you're not bored, I'm good with it. I suppose we almost lost Jasper earlier in the day, so perhaps everything's fine.

Let's get some good roleplaying in at camp today. Tomorrow (both in game and in real life) you can head back out and explore the island. If you want.


Not bored at all, here! I hope you are okay with me taking liberties when it comes to roleplaying my sorcerous powers and learning about my bloodline. Feel free to interject with cool things involving the story and plot I would not know whenever relevant, GMT. I really have no clue about what to expect as this AP goes on besides it being based around adventuring and an ancient serpentfolk race. I think having my bloodline be the same as our enemies will lead to some very delicious roleplaying and character development options as the game goes on.


Oh, don't you worry. I've got some big story plans for everyone. Your serpentness included. It's possible (likely?) that you'll think twice about that bloodline down the road.


I will weep rivers if undead or immune to mind-affecting abilities enemies become our most commonly fought bad guys.


Surely you don't expect haunted shipwrecks to ALL be infested with crabs, do you?


Oh that I'm ok with. What I meant was if it turns out if/when we get off this island we're mainly fighting undead or oozes or something there will be a flood of tears in Philadelphia and it will be on your head!


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

At last, somebody else can rouse the suspicions of the rest of the shipwrecked survivors.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

Petry's profile page is still keeping track of the xp to date (800) as well as treasure found, if anyone's curious. Are we Slow (3,000 xp needed) or Medium (2,000 xp needed) progression to Level 2?

GM_Todd wrote:
Surely you don't expect haunted shipwrecks to ALL be infested with crabs, do you?

Must..resist..crass, low-born response to make a joke at GM Todd's expense!

As for choosing specific spells/feats/themes that turn out to be worthless at higher levels, I've only played Rise of the Runelords to the second book, but read a bunch of reviews on Kingmaker and Curse of the Crimson Throne, and Pathfinder does NOT have a good reputation on "consideration" for long-term planning, I'm afraid. Wizards can fill up their spellbooks, Sorcerers can slowly change their spells over time, but most classes are screwed if they choose the wrong choice at low levels with these Adventure Paths.

Which is why it seems I'm walking Petry through a minefield, as psions can't change anything once chosen until they get Psychic Reformation, at which point at Level 7 the world is open to them. Now to just live long enough to get there.

The only long-term planning I can do with Petry right now is "we're going to be in the jungle a lot", and I'm trying to make him a Jack-of-All-Trades to help/assist the other characters or fill in for them if they become incapacitated. But a psion is a wizard/sorcerer analog, so there's only so much I can "tune" Petry to in the game.


We are on the medium track. Are you also tracking rations? You had a net loss of four rations. Consumed 12, gained 4 thanks to Jask. Also, I'm not sure how to count the goats you've captured.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)
GM_Todd wrote:
We are on the medium track. Are you also tracking rations? You had a net loss of four rations. Consumed 12, gained 4 thanks to Jask. Also, I'm not sure how to count the goats you've captured.

I have the following under the Jenivere spoiler on my profile page:

Larder:
48 food rations-11+2+2

Petry added two rations to the pile. I'll need to subtract 1 ration for Brin and add 4 rations for Jask.

The goats are "on the hoof", not rations yet! And I'm not sure how you want to play the animal husbandry, but I don't think the female is giving milk yet. We may need to wait a few weeks. But it's good roleplaying.

Wait, Jask? Not the dimorphorns we just killed? And you can't count Jasper, he was asleep most of the time :) (yet one more dig at Jasper).


Female Human Bard 1AC

Well if you specialise too much, like have only spell that affect humanoids and animals... then it's your own fault.
You should have at least a few "general use spells" that are useful against everything.

I'm talking higher level now, I'm well aware that level 1 is very limited on what you can know.


Petry, in the most general of senses, I figured you'd be handling more of the blasting and controlling in combats while Allia and I would be backing you up with the buffing and odds and ends.


Female Human Bard 1AC

Actually bards don't have that many buffs aside from Inspire Courage etc, and I'm more going towards battlefield control.
Well yeah there are buffs, but that's the way I'm planning to go for now.


Jask was hunting all day, resulting in enough food for 8 people.


Female Human Bard 1AC
GM_Todd wrote:
Jask was hunting all day, resulting in enough food for 8 people.

Didn't we have 2 hunters? Or was Brin the second one?


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)
Meraxes wrote:
Petry, in the most general of senses, I figured you'd be handling more of the blasting and controlling in combats while Allia and I would be backing you up with the buffing and odds and ends.

Oh, don't worry. Petry will be talking some "Kineticist-specific" powers that can "reach out and annihilate someone" at mid-levels. Very similar to Lightning Bolt and Fireball, the wizard/sorcerer favorites. As well as potentially driving GM Todd nuts with Energy Wall. Petry will be the blaster of the group, eventually.

As for controlling...well, Control Object is the "second place" analog to Summon Monster. Petry can make a small/medium golem to run around the place, but it's round/level, not minute/level. Talk about nerfing the summoners in Pathfinder, why couldn't the summons be at least minute/level or even hour/level.


Female Human Bard 1AC

It's the same for Summon Monster or Nature's Ally, which is why they don't really become useful till around 3rd level. I'll probably not learn it till 4th when I can get 2nd level spells for SM 2 or probably later if there are more important spells.

Controlling can be other stuff too, like sleep, grease, hold person, charm, or just using the whip to trip someone. All that little stuff that tips the balance in our favor.


Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

Bards have great 3rd level buffs/debuffs: Haste is the best buff in the game, Good hope with Dirge of Doom is a great combo, and greater invisibility is also awesome. Summon Monster II is good if you get Augment Summoning, the +2 to hit, damage, and trip attempts is great on the wolf.


Brin was the other hunter. He was unable to hunt today.


Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

Petry's plan for exploration tomorrow is a good one, but I think we will have missed C-8.


I have angered the GM god, it seems. I guess Meraxes is going to have another marching order mix-up sometime soon with a swarm of jungle goats.


Female Human Bard 1AC
Meraxes wrote:
I have angered the GM god, it seems. I guess Meraxes is going to have another marching order mix-up sometime soon with a swarm of jungle goats.

hm?


GMT missed my recruitment deadline and said things don't bode well for my character ;)


Female Human Bard 1AC

Ah don't worry it won't be goats.
"As you walk through the jungle Meraxes foot gets caught in root. Make a reflex safe"
- 20+2 yay
"Ah sorry, not good enough to beat the DC of 23, you fall. Make a fort safe"
- another 20+1
"Ah damnit... sorry, DC was even lower this time, would have needed a 22. Now you broke your neck. Does the rest of you want to bury him or leave him for the birds?"

:)


HP 10/10, 0 NL, AC Chelaxian Human ***INACTIVE*** Life Oracle/1

I am unable to post consistently until this evening; afk, and phones aren't much good for bbcode.


No worries, man. We'll press on. Should anything exciting happen, we can all await your return this evening.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

Ready for the start of day 03. I had some Sasha interaction with a Diplomacy roll, but we can start.


HP 10/10, 0 NL, AC Chelaxian Human ***INACTIVE*** Life Oracle/1

So I'm off at a house in the woods, and the computer I was set up to use last night hadn't been turned on for about eight months.

As it turns out, it takes a really long time to download eight months worth of WinXP patches and virus updates.


Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

What happened to GMT?


Male Human (Chelaxian) Psion (Kineticist) 1 (D6)

I believe he said on the IC thread he had in-laws visiting this weekend. That may have put a crimp in his postings.


Male Elf Barbarian 1 (Invulnerable Rager)

Oh yeah! I'm an idiot :-)


HP 10/10, 0 NL, AC Chelaxian Human ***INACTIVE*** Life Oracle/1

With the posting pace we (well, me not so much :-() have been able to maintain, even a day-long interruption really stands out.


Female Human Bard 1AC

Yes it does, doesn't it? But every weekend so far has been really slow, so I wouldn't worry too much. Tomorrow it will pick up agian.


Whoa. Sorry everyone. In-laws took more time than expected. I'll get the game thread updated tomorrow morning. I also want to wait on Jasper's action - he too was consumed by in-laws. If he doesn't post by tomorrow though, we'll just move forward.

Sorry to abandon you without warning!


Female Human Bard 1AC

No problem, RL happens, can't always say "Sorry, I have to post for an online game now" without looking nerdy :)

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