Durant |
Means to an end. I used to work for the fire department got hurt and can't do that anymore so doing some construction while I go through nursing school. Just one more year of hell.
Funny how torture is bearable when you know it's gonna end.
Well said. I have a year left on my masters in library science.
If it's any use to you there has been some recent work on how med/nursing students use information sources. I expect your school/hospital librarian would be more up on it than I. It might be worth a chat with them to see if there is any tools you could use to make things a tad easier. Might work might not.
Gilfroy Fezziwig |
Create water under someone's feet (in sand) to unbalance or hinder them, giving them a -1 penalty to AC for one round.
Mage handing some sand in somebody's face, dazzling them for 1 round.
Mage handing clumps of flaming camel poo at people to set their clothes on fire. Take a move action to put out the fire, or the second round it starts to inflict 1 point of fire damage per round.
Create water in somebody's boots, reducing their speed for 1 round.
I've wracked my brain looking over his limited spell list, and can't come up with any more at the moment. Of course, he'll be doing a lot of putting guidance on people, using bless, obscuring mist when appropriate and healing people. He can also use his crossbow from time to time.
Gilfroy Fezziwig |
Gilfroy Fezziwig wrote:** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
In regards of experience (brought up in the last few posts of the IC topic) I've three options;
1: Contributors gain experience. This is essentially what Durant's worried about (or so I understand it): if Bahram, Durant and Llathander kill the gnolls before Gilfroy, Abbas and Badi make it to the oasis, they get all the experience.
2: All experience is split. This is preferable, IMO, though could end up being unfair for those that play more...shy characters, or don't feel like they can contribute all that much.
3: I grant levels as you progress through the plot. This is also preferable, though I will have to make some proper decisions further in the AP in that sense.
Any thoughts or ideas? I would prefer to avoid option 1, though if all of you prefer that then we'll run with it.
Durant |
In regards of experience (brought up in the last few posts of the IC topic) I've three options;
1: Contributors gain experience. This is essentially what Durant's worried about (or so I understand it): if Bahram, Durant and Llathander kill the gnolls before Gilfroy, Abbas and Badi make it to the oasis, they get all the experience.
2: All experience is split. This is preferable, IMO, though could end up being unfair for those that play more...shy characters, or don't feel like they can contribute all that much.
3: I grant levels as you progress through the plot. This is also preferable, though I will have to make some proper decisions further in the AP in that sense.
Any thoughts or ideas? I would prefer to avoid option 1, though if all of you prefer that then we'll run with it.
You are spot on on the worry.
I strongly prefer 3. I hate tracking stuff like xp, and this option feels more organic.
Abbas Garshta |
I use #3 only in my home games, especially since I run adventure paths only. Now, I *do* keep track of XP so I have an idea if it is working, but yea, #3 is the way to go.
*Especially* with PbP, since a fair number of encounters get dropped to keep it interesting. While I might have my guys slug it through a complete dungeon in my home game, that could take months in a PbP and be boring as all get out.
-- Abbas Garshta
-- david
Papa.DRB
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame wrote:In regards of experience (brought up in the last few posts of the IC topic) I've three options;
1:
2:
3: I grant levels as you progress through the plot. This is also preferable, though I will have to make some proper decisions further in the AP in that sense.Any thoughts or ideas? I would prefer to avoid option 1, though if all of you prefer that then we'll run with it.
You are spot on on the worry.
I strongly prefer 3. I hate tracking stuff like xp, and this option feels more organic.
Badi Al'Mukhabat Nabih Ka'im |
I apologize for the lack of posting. My laptop ran into a problem with it's wireless adapter and I have been without internet while trying to figure out what was wrong with it. Realizing that my wireless card had a software proplem that has made it unusable, I finally went and bough an external adapter, so posting should be back to normal. I am catching up on posting and will get a post up post-haste.
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
I apologize for the lack of posting. My laptop ran into a problem with it's wireless adapter and I have been without internet while trying to figure out what was wrong with it. Realizing that my wireless card had a software proplem that has made it unusable, I finally went and bough an external adapter, so posting should be back to normal. I am catching up on posting and will get a post up post-haste.
Am glad you're back.
Durant |
Badi. Make that very glad you are back. You are wicked with those rays.
Bahram. Bad news about the fan. A friends laptop did the same thing she managed to get it to limp along until she could get it repaired by using a cold pack wrapped in a towell as a laptop rest. Not too comfey on the lap but it works as a temporary solution.
Bahram Kalor |
Badi. Make that very glad you are back. You are wicked with those rays.
Bahram. Bad news about the fan. A friends laptop did the same thing she managed to get it to limp along until she could get it repaired by using a cold pack wrapped in a towell as a laptop rest. Not too comfey on the lap but it works as a temporary solution.
Spreyed with a can of compressed air appears to have fixed it, at least temporary. I can't hear the fan anymore which is odd for me because I would always be able to hear the sound of the loud, whirring fan, now it seems silent.
either it's healed by the power of compressed air (meaning buying the new fan was a waste) or removing the dust has now made it far slower at heating up which is why the bottom hasn't heated up much.
Badi Al'Mukhabat Nabih Ka'im |
Some possible bad news for my participation in game, but good news for real life. I am attending an intensive language immersion program that requires limited communication in any form in any language besides Chinese. as a result, as much as I would like to continue participating in this game as I like the character dynamics being created here, I also don't want to hold up the game with my future lack of posting. As the program in an 8 week program that will ultimately cover one year's worth of language learning material, I don't want to hold you all up by promising that I would be able to occasionally post when I myself am not sure what posting rate I will have. Therefore, I will withdraw form the game, so that you may bring in someone who will have a better schedule for posting in game. In 8 weeks, should you need someone to take up the reigns of a character for this game, I would be glad to do so, but can't reliably do so right now. Thanks for the fun time, short as it has been.
Poor Wandering One |
Some possible bad news for my participation in game, but good news for real life. I am attending an intensive language immersion program that requires limited communication in any form in any language besides Chinese. as a result, as much as I would like to continue participating in this game as I like the character dynamics being created here, I also don't want to hold up the game with my future lack of posting. As the program in an 8 week program that will ultimately cover one year's worth of language learning material, I don't want to hold you all up by promising that I would be able to occasionally post when I myself am not sure what posting rate I will have. Therefore, I will withdraw form the game, so that you may bring in someone who will have a better schedule for posting in game. In 8 weeks, should you need someone to take up the reigns of a character for this game, I would be glad to do so, but can't reliably do so right now. Thanks for the fun time, short as it has been.
Sounds like a fun program. I for one will be looking for you in eight weeks.
Till then just have Badi stick with the main NPC group?
Durant |
I wanted to thank you all for joining the campaign. I am enjoying this tremendously, and can only hope you are too. I hope I'm meeting your expectations.
Welcome to Legacy of Fire. (Even if you're experienced with it).
I have updated my profile to reflect the journey from Solku to Sultan's Claw.
I'm having a ball so far. I think you are doing an excellent job running two groups like this
What is with the % thing next to our names?
Bahram Kalor |
Durant wrote:Badi. Make that very glad you are back. You are wicked with those rays.
Bahram. Bad news about the fan. A friends laptop did the same thing she managed to get it to limp along until she could get it repaired by using a cold pack wrapped in a towell as a laptop rest. Not too comfey on the lap but it works as a temporary solution.
Spreyed with a can of compressed air appears to have fixed it, at least temporary. I can't hear the fan anymore which is odd for me because I would always be able to hear the sound of the loud, whirring fan, now it seems silent.
either it's healed by the power of compressed air (meaning buying the new fan was a waste) or removing the dust has now made it far slower at heating up which is why the bottom hasn't heated up much.
Should've given this update earlier but the dust cleaning appears to have been a temporary solution. It's still got a few fried circuits and now the fan turns on and off whenever it feels like it so that causes problems. Sometimes I turn it on and it doesn't spin at all, other times I turn it on and it remains spinning the entire day, though the latter is a rare occurence.
Think I'll buy a bag of ice from the nearby off-licence and do what you suggests with the towel. I already have a PC coushin to put it on so I'll put this towel between both of them.
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
Since the idea of resurrection has been mentioned in the IC topic, I'm curious of your opinions. I for one am not the fondest of the idea, as it cheapens death - it adds another sense of longing (romantic, even) in that it's a legend, it's something priests supposedly can do but otherwise requires divine intervention.
While it makes sense for a character to want to resurrect those that have fallen (Durant, in this case) - and if we manage to carry on long enough, said ability does indeed become an option - I'm ambivalent on whether or not you'll actually be allowed to resurrect the dead.
Poor Wandering One |
Since the idea of resurrection has been mentioned in the IC topic, I'm curious of your opinions. I for one am not the fondest of the idea, as it cheapens death - it adds another sense of longing (romantic, even) in that it's a legend, it's something priests supposedly can do but otherwise requires divine intervention.
While it makes sense for a character to want to resurrect those that have fallen (Durant, in this case) - and if we manage to carry on long enough, said ability does indeed become an option - I'm ambivalent on whether or not you'll actually be allowed to resurrect the dead.
well it does take a rather large diamond to the really impressive stuff and it will be a dozen levels or so before Abbas can manage it so I think the problem can be safely ignored for some time. I don't think raise dead will be an issue either. The time limit and the negative level will prevent abuse.
Bahram Kalor |
Since the idea of resurrection has been mentioned in the IC topic, I'm curious of your opinions. I for one am not the fondest of the idea, as it cheapens death - it adds another sense of longing (romantic, even) in that it's a legend, it's something priests supposedly can do but otherwise requires divine intervention.
While it makes sense for a character to want to resurrect those that have fallen (Durant, in this case) - and if we manage to carry on long enough, said ability does indeed become an option - I'm ambivalent on whether or not you'll actually be allowed to resurrect the dead.
It takes high level magic and a LOAD of diamands for ressurection or even true ressurection. Then there's Druids which can do reincarnation.
As a DM when I was messing around with a homebrew I accidently over did it with an encounter and killed one of the players, but I allowed that someone could heal him, they get a vision of their deity proclaiming that they have fought valiently and now is not their time. This makes the player both happy that it's something he can roleplay with like devoting himself better to his religion and it means you don't have the messy idea of having killed a player's level 1 character.
I'm not saying never let your players die. I'm just saying level 1 is really harsh, especially this early in the adventure.
Like in my game's case, it could be a 1 time thing, never happening again.
I agree with poor wondering one as at high levels ressurection spells are acceptable, however they have a considerable price tag and who says the nearest village would even have 70k gold worth of diamonds? Plus it is the character's choice to come back, it certainly isn't a cheap fix, especially where the money could've gone to magic items or the team had to sell magic items to get the cash for the spell componant.
Eitherway, your decision as you're the DM. If you want to allow a one time thing where healing brings him back, but only this once then that's fine or if you want to knuckle down 100% on the rules and say that he's beyond saving, then again you are the DM and we can't argue, but I would like you to take the above suggestion to be considered.
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
True enough - though the price for resurrection is "only" 10k in diamonds - 25k for true resurrection, and sacrificing all that wealth...
Well, even so it would take a long time before Abbas or Gilfroy gained the ability to use the spell so I suppose it's a moot point to ask for opinions. It's not to do with resurrecting players, though - but NPCs.
Abbas Garshta |
Well, Raise Dead is a 5th level spell and you get two permanent negative levels. Restoration, a 4th level spell, will eliminate one negative level per spell, but the second one is a week later.
So 9th level characters, three spells (raise dead, two restorations) and a total of 7k in diamond/diamond dust, and a one week plus a day time frame.
In my previous campaign we had a player die and the group was 10th level at the time. They had prepared by having 10k in diamond dust ready, and the player spent a week, while adventuring, with a negative level which is not so bad.
As far as NPCs go, the decision on whether they want to come back or not is up to the DM.
-- Abbas Garshta
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
oops. I tend not to make checks unless asked. It seems presumptuous somehow. Would you like players to suggest checks? Things like perception are usually made in secret so the player doesn't realize they rolled a 2 and that may be why they found nothing. In any case i will presume only a cursory search and look again later.
This eventually boils down to preference. I agree that sometimes perception checks would be better made in secret - but when taking the effort to personally search, I think a declared roll from said player is better. Spamming skill checks constantly to cover ever base would be presumptuous, but when Durant went to examine the wagon and search for clues, he is deliberately searching - when specifically doing actions like these, I would prefer that you declare your skill use, and roll / take 10 / take 20.
Is my logic flawed? Any objections?
Durant |
Quote:oops. I tend not to make checks unless asked. It seems presumptuous somehow. Would you like players to suggest checks? Things like perception are usually made in secret so the player doesn't realize they rolled a 2 and that may be why they found nothing. In any case i will presume only a cursory search and look again later.This eventually boils down to preference. I agree that sometimes perception checks would be better made in secret - but when taking the effort to personally search, I think a declared roll from said player is better. Spamming skill checks constantly to cover ever base would be presumptuous, but when Durant went to examine the wagon and search for clues, he is deliberately searching - when specifically doing actions like these, I would prefer that you declare your skill use, and roll / take 10 / take 20.
Is my logic flawed? Any objections?
Perfect, and noted. Thanks for clarifying.
Bahram Kalor |
Quote:oops. I tend not to make checks unless asked. It seems presumptuous somehow. Would you like players to suggest checks? Things like perception are usually made in secret so the player doesn't realize they rolled a 2 and that may be why they found nothing. In any case i will presume only a cursory search and look again later.This eventually boils down to preference. I agree that sometimes perception checks would be better made in secret - but when taking the effort to personally search, I think a declared roll from said player is better. Spamming skill checks constantly to cover ever base would be presumptuous, but when Durant went to examine the wagon and search for clues, he is deliberately searching - when specifically doing actions like these, I would prefer that you declare your skill use, and roll / take 10 / take 20.
Is my logic flawed? Any objections?
sounds perfect. If it's declared like for instance.
Bahram takes 20, making sure to search every nook and cranny and under every stone or I type in OOC take 20 or something of that nature.
Papa-DRB |
Apologies.
Between my volunteer job, dentist chair and being sick (don't ask, it was rather gruesome) I have had a real lousy week. I am well enough so that my wife and I are away for the weekend at our camper and I do have internet access so I will post some.
Heading over to the main thread now.
-- david
Papa.DRB
-- Abbas Garshta
Abbas hasn't posted since Sunday, and Bahram hasn't posted since last Thursday.
Could you give us a status update as of why this is?
Papa-DRB |
Thanks!
Went to Tanglewood for a James Taylor concert (yes, I am *that* old!). He had two special guests, that my wife had found out from one of the guys at the campground where we spend summers at but swore her to secrecy.
When they came on just before the intermission, I kinda went a little, well.. a lot, nutso! Vince Gill, Country, and Amy Grant, Christian/Pop! They sang one song, then the intermission and in the second set sang two songs each, plus some of the group songs.
Fireworks afterwards were great. A real good time was had by all.
-- david
Papa.DRB aka Abbas Garshta
Happy 4th of July to those of you who celebrate it.
DM Patcher || Sceptre of Flame |
For those of you who do not know - I ended two campaigns today. My Curse of the Crimson Throne game ended because of one player's horrible inability to keep cool. The other Legacy of Fire game ended because one player disappeared without notice, one player dropped out, and the campaign slowed down to a crawl because people were going away for days without warning.
This campaign is still going strong. As I mentioned earlier, the attitudes in-character of some players have had me furious. On the other hand, you are all active, you all get along, and most of you communicate to me whenever real life requires your attention. The other LoF game had an unsatisfying level of activity and poor communication about real life. Players seemed to have lost motivation - and so did I.
I am enjoying this campaign, and your roleplaying. Your drive to carry on. Unless things take a horrendous turn to the worse, I won't end this. Please don't worry.
Durant |
I am enjoying this campaign, and your roleplaying. Your drive to carry on. Unless things take a horrendous turn to the worse, I won't end this. Please don't worry.
Whew! Thanks for the reassurance. I am enjoying this game and would hate to see it end before we get the chance to figure out what the title means.
~Willps. Please let me know if there is any thing I can do to lend a hand.
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