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It is also interesting to note that the qwerty keyboard is purposefully designed inefficiently so as to prevent the old hammer arms from interfering with each other as they relax from striking. So the most commonly used letters are spaced apart from one another such that their paths do not intersect.

Because old school typists were still crazy fast and faster than the mechanical relaxation of the hammer.

Edit: I suppose some of them probably typed naked. I however have been out running errands, so I did put my clothes on at some point.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Technically, that's called a "Shift Key", even though it looks like an arrow...

My keyboard has the word 'shift' on the key cap and it also has an up-pointing arrow

The 'enter' key cap has the word 'enter' and a left-pointing arrow with a hook on its tail (the old symbol for 'carriage return', back when those were sometimes two different keys on a computer keyboard.


I'm glad I play the bureaucracy game well.

Looks like all I need is administrator approval and Impus Minor will be able to withdraw from Spanish with a W on his transcript.

I couldn't care less about the W, and I've been noisy enough I expect a very quick sign-off from the admins who have seen me very publicly escalating every issue to the school board.

"Yeah, we can give him the W or we can have another school board meeting dedicated to what incompetents we are. Where's that rubber stamp?"


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Nonverbal Communication Fails:

When Impus Minor wants his laundry done, he moves his laundry basket to beside the washing machine. I combine it with like laundry from other hampers and wash it.

Yesterday he put the old papasan pillow (yes, LM, the olive one I spent so many a pleasant and drunken afternoon on) out as well. So I washed it... totally forgetting that I'd actually been planning on scrapping it when I scrapped the chair, so it had a massive cut on the bottom side...

The dryer dutifully filled up with some bizarre green plastic-like filling (much like Easter grass), and Impus Minor came out, horrified, and said, "No, Dad! I wanted you to throw that out! Not wash it!!!"

So, er... don't put it in the same place you always put your laundry...


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I never will understand why people put so many political signs up.

As if anyone undecided ever said "oh wow, a sign! No more information than a name and possibly a slogan! I guess that changed my opinion."

Or maybe they do. I don't understand humans.


Its like lawyers advertising with their picture. F$$$ what you look like. What is your win-loss record? Post that!


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
As if anyone undecided ever said "oh wow, a sign! No more information than a name and possibly a slogan! I guess that changed my opinion."

All yard signs (political or otherwise) are meant to be associated with the resident. If you have good feelings about the people who live there, your susceptibility to the halo-effect is likely to cause you to also feel good about the product being advertised (and vice versa). It's a positive recommendation about a product from a neighbor, whom you are likely to know at least superficially.

The same concept generalizes to the neighborhood: if you find the homes in the neighborhood desirable, and see that a lot of the lawns have advertisements for a particular product, then you are likely to attribute positive feelings to that product


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I never will understand why people put so many political signs up.

As if anyone undecided ever said "oh wow, a sign! No more information than a name and possibly a slogan! I guess that changed my opinion."

Or maybe they do. I don't understand humans.

It doesn't. Not anymore.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I never will understand why people put so many political signs up.

As if anyone undecided ever said "oh wow, a sign! No more information than a name and possibly a slogan! I guess that changed my opinion."

Or maybe they do. I don't understand humans.

CrystalSeas beat me to it, but yeah, lawn signs for local races make sense.

For example, our neighbor five doors down has been a school board member, a city council member, and worked closely with my father back when he was mayor. He's extremely active in Albany politics, and he and I have our political differences, but we mostly align when it comes to local candidates.

So he sends out emails and puts up lawn signs saying, "These are the people I endorse for the local positions, and this is why I endorse them."

When it came time to vote, yes, I could have reviewed the emails (since I agreed with his reasoning), but instead I went out and checked his lawn signs and said, "OK, those are the two I should be voting for."

For national elections yeah, it makes no sense. But for local elections CrystalSeas nailed it perfectly: If you're uninformed and a neighbor you trust to be informed has put up lawn signs, you're likely to align your vote with said neighbor.

Silver Crusade

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There’s a herd effect. A preponderance of signs for one candidate can signal to passers by that the candidate has a lot of support. There is a psychological desire to be on the winning team, so I suspect enough signs actually can have an effect on the margins.


NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Not to be That Guy, but what does shift do exactly.
It changes lower case letters to capital letters. You used it when you wrote "That Guy".

Unless cy is posting from a phone that is set up to type capital letters by holding the letter key a bit...

EDIT: So, I was right about the phone part.

Silver Crusade

Afternoon, all. What did I miss?


NobodysHome wrote:

Ah, well, once Impus Major wakes up I'll see whether he got the same email or a different one. He can't even remember what name he uses on his signatures, much less how to make them look similar.

I have been signing myself for 22 years now... I still don't have a consistent signature.


NobodysHome wrote:

It's also interesting how much your perspective on high school and college changes once you've been on hiring committees for a couple dozen years.

To absolutely no one's surprise, Impus Minor is having massive issues in Spanish, because:
(1) In spite of everyone swearing by it, immersive learning has never worked for anyone in my family

Really? That's interesting. Huh.

As an aside, might I suggest what worked for me in learning another language- porn watching animated shows? I will day that in recent years due to legal issues Spanish is spoken MUCH FASTER in commercials due to the need to squeeze legalese in at the end, but watching cartoons might help.

I find it fascinating that immersion doesn't work for anyone in your family.

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:

If someone is considering a carreer in IT. Dont.

We had to explain to a 20+ aged person what the shift key does.
She had been using caps lock to get the big letters untill now.

No wonder she could not log in to anything.

I am old enough to know some people who use caps lock regularly for capital letters, tapping it again to go back to regular letters. I forget what shift did back in the day, I think it actually shifted fields in some programs.

Yeah but she sounded somewhere in her twenties.

And even the mobile generation has a shift equivalent key. You know. With the little up arrow on it.

Scarab Sages

NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Not to be That Guy, but what does shift do exactly.
It changes lower case letters to capital letters. You used it when you wrote "That Guy".

Thank you


https://www.signs.com/blog/do-political-signs-work-running-an-effective-leg al-sign-campaign/

https://www.signs.com/blog/impact-of-political-signs-in-an-election/

Admittedly a biased source, but they have some methodology


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Its like lawyers advertising with their picture. F@@# what you look like. What is your win-loss record? Post that!

Regretfully, human animal react strongly to physical appearance, so a lawyer's picture does influence the decision.

Scarab Sages

Celestial Healer wrote:
Afternoon, all. What did I miss?

Keyboards


Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

It's also interesting how much your perspective on high school and college changes once you've been on hiring committees for a couple dozen years.

To absolutely no one's surprise, Impus Minor is having massive issues in Spanish, because:
(1) In spite of everyone swearing by it, immersive learning has never worked for anyone in my family

Really? That's interesting. Huh.

As an aside, might I suggest what worked for me in learning another language- porn watching animated shows? I will day that in recent years due to legal issues Spanish is spoken MUCH FASTER in commercials due to the need to squeeze legalese in at the end, but watching cartoons might help.

I find it fascinating that immersion doesn't work for anyone in your family.

What worked for me was the way I learned German. Day 1 was entirely in English. "We're going to be studying this grammar book, and starting tomorrow you won't speak anything except German in class. Review the vocabulary on pages 1-12. Those are the words we'll be studying."

So instead of having to try to determine the definition of the word from the context of the conversation, I got to read ahead on the grammar and vocabulary I'd be using, then use it for an hour in class.

I took 5 years of French (1980-1984) and 2 years of German (1986-1987), and when I took my first trip to Europe in 1987 I couldn't put together two sentences in French, yet I was able to hang out in pubs in Germany and hold conversations.

Last year it'd been 35 years. I studied French assiduously for 3 months leading up to the trip.

My German was STILL better than my French, because the way it was taught was the way my brain functions.


Hello, everyone.


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Got to love when a meeting organizer moves a meeting to accommodate his schedule and then forgets to show up.

smh

Ah well. I can cruise through other websites while I wait.


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Eh, I hate my neighborhood, so I almost always vote for the opposite of what I see.

I mean, if you list a federal candidate I hate and a local I don't know, you kinda are more likely to get me to vote for anyone else besides your local endorsement.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Eh, I hate my neighborhood, so I almost always vote for the opposite of what I see.

Then yard signs are working as intended.

There was a local movie reviewer who consistently hated the shows I loved. I almost never like the shows he was excited about.

For me, he was just as useful as a reviewer who shared my sentiments.


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Another purpose of yard signs:

(which I will spoiler, even though I consider it more psychology than politics):

I'm a very blue voter in a very red state. The sheer quantity of signage for the opposing party's candidates, from local offices on up to the highest names on the ballot, can feel overwhelming and a bit depressing.
For me, every Vote Blue, Science is Real, or BLM yard sign I see is a momentary reminder that I am not alone.
And that is no small thing.
So I have them in my own yard, too.


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Maybe it helps to not like any of your neighbors. Most that I've interacted with personally are either proud of the fact that they don't vote or are very the opposite of my views, to the point of harassment. Seeing the yard signs of those who do vote only fuels my never-ending rage.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

It's also interesting how much your perspective on high school and college changes once you've been on hiring committees for a couple dozen years.

To absolutely no one's surprise, Impus Minor is having massive issues in Spanish, because:
(1) In spite of everyone swearing by it, immersive learning has never worked for anyone in my family

Really? That's interesting. Huh.

As an aside, might I suggest what worked for me in learning another language- porn watching animated shows? I will day that in recent years due to legal issues Spanish is spoken MUCH FASTER in commercials due to the need to squeeze legalese in at the end, but watching cartoons might help.

I find it fascinating that immersion doesn't work for anyone in your family.

What worked for me was the way I learned German. Day 1 was entirely in English. "We're going to be studying this grammar book, and starting tomorrow you won't speak anything except German in class. Review the vocabulary on pages 1-12. Those are the words we'll be studying."

So instead of having to try to determine the definition of the word from the context of the conversation, I got to read ahead on the grammar and vocabulary I'd be using, then use it for an hour in class.

I took 5 years of French (1980-1984) and 2 years of German (1986-1987), and when I took my first trip to Europe in 1987 I couldn't put together two sentences in French, yet I was able to hang out in pubs in Germany and hold conversations.

Last year it'd been 35 years. I studied French assiduously for 3 months leading up to the trip.

My German was STILL better than my French, because the way it was taught was the way my brain functions.

that sounds like immersion though.


Question for Nobody in particular.

When frying meat (or whatever) in a frying pan, is there any trick that helps turn the meat pieces to the other side easily, or do I need to keep turning individual pieces, like a (fire-using) animal?


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

It's also interesting how much your perspective on high school and college changes once you've been on hiring committees for a couple dozen years.

To absolutely no one's surprise, Impus Minor is having massive issues in Spanish, because:
(1) In spite of everyone swearing by it, immersive learning has never worked for anyone in my family

Really? That's interesting. Huh.

As an aside, might I suggest what worked for me in learning another language- porn watching animated shows? I will day that in recent years due to legal issues Spanish is spoken MUCH FASTER in commercials due to the need to squeeze legalese in at the end, but watching cartoons might help.

I find it fascinating that immersion doesn't work for anyone in your family.

What worked for me was the way I learned German. Day 1 was entirely in English. "We're going to be studying this grammar book, and starting tomorrow you won't speak anything except German in class. Review the vocabulary on pages 1-12. Those are the words we'll be studying."

So instead of having to try to determine the definition of the word from the context of the conversation, I got to read ahead on the grammar and vocabulary I'd be using, then use it for an hour in class.

I took 5 years of French (1980-1984) and 2 years of German (1986-1987), and when I took my first trip to Europe in 1987 I couldn't put together two sentences in French, yet I was able to hang out in pubs in Germany and hold conversations.

Last year it'd been 35 years. I studied French assiduously for 3 months leading up to the trip.

My German was STILL better than my French, because the way it was taught was the way my brain functions.

that sounds like immersion though.

Immersion = No speaking nor reading in one's native tongue, ever. Impus Minor's Spanish teacher went so far as to provide the syllabus in Spanish ("Your kids are in Spanish 2! They should have no trouble translating this for you!"), all the announcements are in Spanish, and you cannot protest a grade unless you do it in Spanish. Impus Minor missed a test because he didn't understand her post about there being a test on a non-meeting day because it was in Spanish.

She's one of those mind-blowingly irritating immersion evangelists.
"I'm failing your class because I don't understand what you're saying!"
"Ah ah ah! En Espanol, por favor!"
"But that's the problem! I can't say it in Spanish because I don't understand you!"
"Lo siento. No te entiendo."

My French teacher was exactly the same, and I wish I'd dropped out of her classes earlier. Being able to get Impus Minor out of such a teacher's grasp delights me no end.

EDIT: So to clarify, the German textbook was in English. It described the details of the grammar you were about to learn, provided the vocabulary list and translations, etc. So you spent an hour reading in English to prepare to be immersed in German in class.


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Quote:
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It took three tries to make my brain read this as anything other than "Nintendo". Yes I know I'm an uncultured swine and terrible person, but there it is.


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Drejk wrote:
is there any trick that helps turn the meat pieces to the other side easily

A few tips

Put the grease (oil, butter, drippings) into the cold pan.
Heat the cold pan until you see evidence that the grease is hot.
Drop the meat onto the hot grease.

Leave it there for 4-5 minutes, until the Maillard reaction creates a crust that releases the piece of meat on its own.

That's the trick: don't try to turn it until it has browned slightly. When it's ready, it will unstick itself.

Temperature: don't have it too cold. Don't have it too hot.
The oil shimmers when it's hot enough. Or use the "droplets of water" test:
If the droplets sit on the surface without moving around, it's too cold.
If the droplets evaporate almost instantly, it's too hot.
If the droplets bounce around a few times before evaporating, it's just right.

Scarab Sages

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And here I was, envisioning some pied piper flipping meat all by itself.


CrystalSeas wrote:
Drejk wrote:
is there any trick that helps turn the meat pieces to the other side easily

A few tips

Put the grease (oil, butter, drippings) into the cold pan.
Heat the cold pan until you see evidence that the grease is hot.
Drop the meat onto the hot grease.

Leave it there for 4-5 minutes, until the Maillard reaction creates a crust that releases the piece of meat on its own.

That's the trick: don't try to turn it until it has browned slightly. When it's ready, it will unstick itself.

Temperature: don't have it too cold. Don't have it too hot.
The oil shimmers when it's hot enough. Or use the "droplets of water" test:
If the droplets sit on the surface without moving around, it's too cold.
If the droplets evaporate almost instantly, it's too hot.
If the droplets bounce around a few times before evaporating, it's just right.

Uh, I think I wasn't clear enough—it wasn't question about meat getting stuck to the pan, just a plain wondering if there is some trick how to turn a large number of small pieces of meat to the other side at the same time, instead of turning each of them individually.


Woran wrote:
And here I was, envisioning some pied piper flipping meat all by itself.

Yeah, I'd like that.


If your pan is deep enough you can do the chef shake that pushes everything to the far side and then flips up followed by a catch. But this relies on the laws of probability to have all the meat flip sides. Which, given that most such morsels are not uniform/flat is not a guarantee that everything flips.

Although if you do enough times, it should average out the flips.


Nylarthotep wrote:

If your pan is deep enough you can do the chef shake that pushes everything to the far side and then flips up followed by a catch. But this relies on the laws of probability to have all the meat flip sides. Which, given that most such morsels are not uniform/flat is not a guarantee that everything flips.

Although if you do enough times, it should average out the flips.

I thought of that but the pan is not deep enough for it to work properly, and my morsels tend to be to weird-shaped.


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Drejk wrote:

Question for Nobody in particular.

When frying meat (or whatever) in a frying pan, is there any trick that helps turn the meat pieces to the other side easily, or do I need to keep turning individual pieces, like a (fire-using) animal?

So you're asking the wrong guy, because I'm the kind of guy who considers cooking a form of Zen art, so I don't mind spending 3.5 hours making a curry just so I can use all-fresh ingredients and make sure that every step is done properly.

So I wouldn't want to flip all the pieces at once because each piece cooks at its own individual pace.

For fairly uniform meat (such as beaten chicken breasts for katsu) where the cooking time is pretty even, I use a large metal spatula, but even then I do one breast at a time. When I'm browning meatballs for the spaghetti I use tongs and lovingly individually flip each one.

I'm a weirdo.


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The counselor got back to me and said Impus Minor could drop Spanish without administrative approval if it's for "mental health reasons", and considering that "mental health damage" is pretty much the running definition of COVID-19 and the lockdown, that's really a no-brainer.

I told her to go ahead and do the mental health drop, and if that made her uncomfortable to go ahead and go to the admins; I have no fear of them trying to stop me.

EDIT: And he's out. NobodysHome knows bureaucracy, Lilly.


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Drejk wrote:
Nylarthotep wrote:

If your pan is deep enough you can do the chef shake that pushes everything to the far side and then flips up followed by a catch. But this relies on the laws of probability to have all the meat flip sides. Which, given that most such morsels are not uniform/flat is not a guarantee that everything flips.

Although if you do enough times, it should average out the flips.

I thought of that but the pan is not deep enough for it to work properly, and my morsels tend to be to weird-shaped.

What you need there is a pair of metal spatulas, or is it spatulae? I have no idea. Anyway

1. one spatula goes flat in the pan, for you to push morsels onto
2. the other spatula turns on its side, as the pushing arm
3. use pushing arm to load the flat spatula with meat chunks
4. flip meat to other side
5. repeat with different groups of morsels until all have flipped

Think of your fave hibachi place. The chef there likely does the same thing with a knife and spatula instead of 2 of the same utensil. One thing that helps, regardless of how uniform the chunks are cut is to group them into quadrants in the pan.

Or just do what I do: sautee. Take a wooden spoon, shake the pan, and push the spoon around once in a while. If the chunks of meat are small enough, you'll eventually get a char on all sides.


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Yay vaccines. Flu shot and tetanus was due. Unfortunately, she did them in the same arm. This is gonna hurt for a couple days.


Celestial Healer wrote:
There’s a herd effect. A preponderance of signs for one candidate can signal to passers by that the candidate has a lot of support. There is a psychological desire to be on the winning team, so I suspect enough signs actually can have an effect on the margins.

Yeah, it's a form of social proof.

A disturbing number of people pay only superficial attention to government and politics, and cast their votes based largely on name recognition and social proof. Seeing signs for a candidate can do anything from getting a name into someone's head as a viable option to getting that name into their head as the only option.

Also as LM says, signs can provide minority-party voters a desperately-needed reminder that we're not alone.


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NobodysHome wrote:

The counselor got back to me and said Impus Minor could drop Spanish without administrative approval if it's for "mental health reasons", and considering that "mental health damage" is pretty much the running definition of COVID-19 and the lockdown, that's really a no-brainer.

I told her to go ahead and do the mental health drop, and if that made her uncomfortable to go ahead and go to the admins; I have no fear of them trying to stop me.

EDIT: And he's out. NobodysHome knows bureaucracy, Lilly.

Aaand NH gets cookies for quoting that movie. :)


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Speaking of superficial voters, I've been helping my sister research her ballot for the first time AND I AM SO PROUD OF HER!!! Our mother deserves all the credit for getting my sister to this point, she's been impressing upon my sister for years the importance of government and voting.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Speaking of superficial voters, I've been helping my sister research her ballot for the first time AND I AM SO PROUD OF HER!!! Our mother deserves all the credit for getting my sister to this point, she's been impressing upon my sister for years the importance of government and voting.

I was ecstatic when I did my usual, "Here are the propositions, here are the candidates, here's how I'm voting and why," with Impus Major and GothBard for his first-ever vote in June, and on one of the very first propositions he said, "No, I disagree with you, Dad. I'm going to vote the other way."

Free thinking for the win!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Speaking of superficial voters, I've been helping my sister research her ballot for the first time AND I AM SO PROUD OF HER!!! Our mother deserves all the credit for getting my sister to this point, she's been impressing upon my sister for years the importance of government and voting.

I was ecstatic when I did my usual, "Here are the propositions, here are the candidates, here's how I'm voting and why," with Impus Major and GothBard for his first-ever vote in June, and on one of the very first propositions he said, "No, I disagree with you, Dad. I'm going to vote the other way."

Free thinking for the win!

"I am proud of you my son! Now get the hell out of my house!"


Drejk wrote:
Uh, I think I wasn't clear enough—it wasn't question about meat getting stuck to the pan, just a plain wondering if there is some trick how to turn a large number of small pieces of meat to the other side at the same time, instead of turning each of them individually.

Oh.

Nope, sorry.
For little solid pieces and big meatballs, I use tongs, since it's faster than chasing them around with a spatula.

But for ground meat patties and larger solid pieces, a I use a wide spatula to help scrape up the fond so it doesn't start burning. There are some made especially for fish (fillets are fragile), but anything that fits your pan will be fine.


CrystalSeas wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Uh, I think I wasn't clear enough—it wasn't question about meat getting stuck to the pan, just a plain wondering if there is some trick how to turn a large number of small pieces of meat to the other side at the same time, instead of turning each of them individually.

Oh.

Nope, sorry.
For little solid pieces and big meatballs, I use tongs, since it's faster than chasing them around with a spatula.

But for ground meat patties and larger solid pieces, a I use a wide spatula to help scrape up the fond so it doesn't start burning. There are some made especially for fish (fillets are fragile), but anything that fits your pan will be fine.

Yeah, the bigger pieces of meat are not an issue, flipping them individually is not a problem when there is two or three of them. It's the swarm of bite-sized pieces of meat that is boring to do, especially when they resist my clumsy attempt.


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OK. I'm impressed. Useful information at a government web site!

A voter who has signed up will receive notices via email, text, or voice message from the county elections official regarding the status of the voter's vote-by-mail ballot including:

  • When the voter's completed ballot has been received by the county
  • Whether the voter's completed ballot has been accepted or a reason why the ballot could not be accepted and instructions of steps the voter can take in order to have the ballot accepted
  • Both Impus Major and I have ballot statuses of "accepted", meaning apparently our signatures match and we have voted.

    We're DONE! Bring on 2022!


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    Drejk wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:
    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    Speaking of superficial voters, I've been helping my sister research her ballot for the first time AND I AM SO PROUD OF HER!!! Our mother deserves all the credit for getting my sister to this point, she's been impressing upon my sister for years the importance of government and voting.

    I was ecstatic when I did my usual, "Here are the propositions, here are the candidates, here's how I'm voting and why," with Impus Major and GothBard for his first-ever vote in June, and on one of the very first propositions he said, "No, I disagree with you, Dad. I'm going to vote the other way."

    Free thinking for the win!

    "I am proud of you my son! Now get the hell out of my house!"

    Household politics:
    It's almost always bond measures.

    Since the 1970s California politicians have learned that they can cut critical funding to well-liked public projects (public schools, public transportation, etc.) to pay for their own pet pork projects, then float yet more bond measures to get the public to pay for basic services.

    It's really insidious, and I want it to stop, so I vote against every bond measure, no matter how noble. GothBard and Impus Major aren't so stubborn, so if it's really something worth funding (as it usually is) they vote in favor of it.


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    I think I'm going to go do early voting tomorrow after my run. My polling place opens at 7, and what else am I going to do with my vacation?
    It feels weird not to wait until next month, but I want to make sure my vote gets counted.

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