
The Vagrant Erudite |
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I don't know that I've ever seen a Chick-Fil-A or Whataburger, though I'm sure there are some around here.
Yep. Chick-Fil-A is only 24 miles away (a 40-minute drive), but no Whataburger, because it's Texan and we're Californian, and there are few things Texas hates more than California.
'Cause we're just better than they are...
Bragging about being better than Texas is like bragging about being taller than a halfling...
...even Florida can make that brag.
Hm. Naked. Comparison references re: size. Florida reference (oft called the "wang of america" per Homer Simpson)
Yep. Insert a penis joke here.
DOUBLE JOKE - PHRASING!!!
Thanks to fatherhood, my pun-i-tude is rising! It's rising I say!
That's what she said
Damn I'm good.
Seriously? Another one? I'm gonna run out of TWSS at this rate.

Limeylongears |
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Unsurprisingly, Wednesday HEMA was cancelled, so I had to drill at home.
We were also told to set up our home PCs for remote working, assuming they get it all up & running tomorrow.
ALL (DE) told us Boris is poised to announce Total Shutdown, but no sign of it so far.
I , for one, feel happy & confident that we have such a sober, competent individual at the helm of uor grete nastion in these trying times.

Vagrant EruDad |
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I apologize. That's What She Said jokes are so easy and ubiquitous, they just pop out of my mouth before I can help it. See? I'm trying to keep it in there, but I just feel like I'm going to explode sometimes. Ok, that one was on purpose. Once I get started, it's even more difficult to stop. Stahp, that was another and old habits die hard and all. It's Tala's fault. She laughs at it every time. You could even make that a TWSS if you wanted to be a jerk to someone. I mean, technically, it's low humor - below the belt, even *snicker*, but since we have so many fans of puns, I figured it wouldn't be too insulting - they're weak puns, true, and filthy, but theoretically they fall into the realm of word play.

Orthos |
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captain yesterday wrote:We don't have Kroger near us, so in my case it's mostly symbolic but if we ever go anywhere with one we sure as f~!+ won't go there.That's how I used to feel about Chick-Fil-A when we lived in California. Now that we're in a part of the country where they are just as plentiful as Whataburgers, and I've discovered how tasty they are, it's harder to be resolute!
If the reason you're avoiding Chik-Fil-A is purely their politics, you'll be happy to know that they have restructured their charitable operations and are no longer donating to the Salvation Army or Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
So, at least for the time being, you can eat their food without moral quandary.

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captain yesterday wrote:We don't have Kroger near us, so in my case it's mostly symbolic but if we ever go anywhere with one we sure as f$$% won't go there.You have to Google their subsidiaries to get a good picture. There are no Krogers that I've ever seen, but Food4Less is ubiquitous around here, and it's a Krogers subsidiary.
And yes, I'm petty enough to boycott ALL of a corporation's subsidiaries. Because you can't spell "NobodysHome" without "ornery".
Here ya go!
The Kroger Co. Family of Stores includes:
Baker’s
City Market
Dillons
Food 4 Less
Foods Co
Fred Meyer
Fry’s
Gerbes
Harris Teeter
King Soopers
Jay C Food Store
Kroger
Owens Market
Pay-Less Super Markets
QFC
Ralphs
Smith’s Food and Drug

NobodysHome |
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And this is why I bang my head against my desk so frequently at Global Megacorporation.
2011: NobodysHome is called in to develop emergency customization training on Release 1 of the product. NobodysHome notes that one feature is SO appalling that it alone will lose us sales. Everybody ignores NobodysHome.
2012: The Sales Team joins NobodysHome, saying that they are losing sales because of said feature.
2012-2018: The feature is on the Sales Reps' "Top 10 Issues" list every single quarter for many years.
2019: The problem is finally "fixed", though the fix is a bit of a patchwork fix and still needs a lot of work. At least it's something, and it's rapidly improving.
2020: By internal PM demand, engineers put in a "test feature".
2020: NobodysHome is appalled as he watches a demonstration where a PM is very carefully showing customers how to bypass ALL the progress that's been made over the last 18 months and go back to the old stupid way of doing things.
Must... not... strangle... co-workers...

captain yesterday |
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NobodysHome wrote:captain yesterday wrote:We don't have Kroger near us, so in my case it's mostly symbolic but if we ever go anywhere with one we sure as f$$% won't go there.You have to Google their subsidiaries to get a good picture. There are no Krogers that I've ever seen, but Food4Less is ubiquitous around here, and it's a Krogers subsidiary.
And yes, I'm petty enough to boycott ALL of a corporation's subsidiaries. Because you can't spell "NobodysHome" without "ornery".
Here ya go!
kroger.com wrote:The Kroger Co. Family of Stores includes:
Baker’s
City Market
Dillons
Food 4 Less
Foods Co
Fred Meyer
Fry’s
Gerbes
Harris Teeter
King Soopers
Jay C Food Store
Kroger
Owens Market
Pay-Less Super Markets
QFC
Ralphs
Smith’s Food and Drug
None of those are in Madison.
Yay for Wisconsin!

The Vagrant Erudite |
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I am officially working from home while quarantined. I have no idea if I have the virus, as the only way to get tested is apparently the emergency room. I’m not going to expose others when I am surviving as best I can. Hopefully a week will be long enough to recover.
Be safe - from what I read the major difference between CV19 and the flu is that the flu will get better on it's own, but CV19 can progress to a really bad respiratory thing. Please get help if you need it! Feel better!

NobodysHome |
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Bay Area Lockdown, Day 2:
I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that people invested in their health (joggers, bicyclists, walkers, etc.) would be more likely to pay attention to the "rules of engagement", but in about 3.7 miles of walking today I saw over 100 people doing various things and:
- Roughly 80% of the walkers and joggers went out of their way to maintain at least the recommended 6' space between people. For the rest, I had to go around
- Once I hit Solano, I was unpleasantly appalled. It was not *quite* as bad as usual, but there were dozens of pedestrians completely ignoring any spacing rules, wandering up and down the street, peering in the windows of closed shops, or packed tightly together in lines to pick up takeout from restaurants
And that's really the thing; the problem with a "voluntary" lockdown is that you need people to behave themselves. And if enough don't (which is pretty much a guarantee in the good old U.S.A.), then the lockdown will accomplish far less than it should. Yes, I'm sure the virus will be significantly slowed down in our area, and that's the ultimate goal, but if that 20% would behave themselves it would be a significant improvement.

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NobodysHome wrote:State rivalries aside, Whataburger is a big one on a very small list of things I miss about Texas.I don't know that I've ever seen a Chick-Fil-A or Whataburger, though I'm sure there are some around here.
Chorizo burgers with the creamy chili sauce.
Spicy ketchup.Dr. Pepper milkshakes.
I have not been to an In-n-Out burger (and, yes, Dallas has them) since I moved.

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Breathing a huge sigh of relief... Census is suspending operations until March 31st.
Since WW's job in Census Administration is all about hiring new people, fingerprinting them, and lots of other human interaction stuff with lots of random strangers, I was really worried about him.
So now he gets to be home, sending out resumes and applications, and hopefully also dealing with our knee-high lawn.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Unfortunately, it's 5-10 minutes, tops, to our choice of 2 Krogers, 2 WalMarts, and a Costco. Given those options, and we don't have the storage space to effectively shop at a Costco (or a membership), the only realistic option for us is Kroger. After that we're looking at 30-45 minute drives to one of two HyVees, or 20-30 minutes to a ridiculously expensive Schnuck's.
None of these are anywhere near me.

Freehold DM |
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lisamarlene wrote:captain yesterday wrote:We don't have Kroger near us, so in my case it's mostly symbolic but if we ever go anywhere with one we sure as f~!+ won't go there.That's how I used to feel about Chick-Fil-A when we lived in California. Now that we're in a part of the country where they are just as plentiful as Whataburgers, and I've discovered how tasty they are, it's harder to be resolute!If the reason you're avoiding Chik-Fil-A is purely their politics, you'll be happy to know that they have restructured their charitable operations and are no longer donating to the Salvation Army or Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
So, at least for the time being, you can eat their food without moral quandary.
I think they still have the same CEO who is against gay marriage.

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NobodysHome wrote:captain yesterday wrote:We don't have Kroger near us, so in my case it's mostly symbolic but if we ever go anywhere with one we sure as f$$% won't go there.You have to Google their subsidiaries to get a good picture. There are no Krogers that I've ever seen, but Food4Less is ubiquitous around here, and it's a Krogers subsidiary.
And yes, I'm petty enough to boycott ALL of a corporation's subsidiaries. Because you can't spell "NobodysHome" without "ornery".
Here ya go!
kroger.com wrote:The Kroger Co. Family of Stores includes:
Baker’s
City Market
Dillons
Food 4 Less
Foods Co
Fred Meyer
Fry’s
Gerbes
Harris Teeter
King Soopers
Jay C Food Store
Kroger
Owens Market
Pay-Less Super Markets
QFC
Ralphs
Smith’s Food and Drug
I've no idea what any of those are.

Freehold DM |
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Bay Area Lockdown, Day 2:
I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that people invested in their health (joggers, bicyclists, walkers, etc.) would be more likely to pay attention to the "rules of engagement", but in about 3.7 miles of walking today I saw over 100 people doing various things and:
- Roughly 80% of the walkers and joggers went out of their way to maintain at least the recommended 6' space between people. For the rest, I had to go around
- Once I hit Solano, I was unpleasantly appalled. It was not *quite* as bad as usual, but there were dozens of pedestrians completely ignoring any spacing rules, wandering up and down the street, peering in the windows of closed shops, or packed tightly together in lines to pick up takeout from restaurants
And that's really the thing; the problem with a "voluntary" lockdown is that you need people to behave themselves. And if enough don't (which is pretty much a guarantee in the good old U.S.A.), then the lockdown will accomplish far less than it should. Yes, I'm sure the virus will be significantly slowed down in our area, and that's the ultimate goal, but if that 20% would behave themselves it would be a significant improvement.
what you are hailing simply would not work here. We just dont have that kind of space.

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Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:State rivalries aside, Whataburger is a big one on a very small list of things I miss about Texas.I don't know that I've ever seen a Chick-Fil-A or Whataburger, though I'm sure there are some around here.
Chorizo burgers with the creamy chili sauce.
Spicy ketchup.
Dr. Pepper milkshakes.I have not been to an In-n-Out burger (and, yes, Dallas has them) since I moved.
why not?

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Speaking of working gaming from home. For some reason Discord doesn't seem to want to work with my laptop's webcamera, showing instead green screen most of the time, with occasional showing of the (poor quality, dark picture - apparently my LED bulb doesn't gives enough light for it even when it works) recorded image. I updated drivers, as far as I could, for the autoupdate shows the driver is up to date and the laptop producer site doesn't have any manually downloadable driver for the camera.

NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:what you are hailing simply would not work here. We just dont have that kind of space.Bay Area Lockdown, Day 2:
I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that people invested in their health (joggers, bicyclists, walkers, etc.) would be more likely to pay attention to the "rules of engagement", but in about 3.7 miles of walking today I saw over 100 people doing various things and:
- Roughly 80% of the walkers and joggers went out of their way to maintain at least the recommended 6' space between people. For the rest, I had to go around
- Once I hit Solano, I was unpleasantly appalled. It was not *quite* as bad as usual, but there were dozens of pedestrians completely ignoring any spacing rules, wandering up and down the street, peering in the windows of closed shops, or packed tightly together in lines to pick up takeout from restaurants
And that's really the thing; the problem with a "voluntary" lockdown is that you need people to behave themselves. And if enough don't (which is pretty much a guarantee in the good old U.S.A.), then the lockdown will accomplish far less than it should. Yes, I'm sure the virus will be significantly slowed down in our area, and that's the ultimate goal, but if that 20% would behave themselves it would be a significant improvement.
You should SEE the photos of downtown S.F. It is an absolute desert for exactly that reason.
We have sidewalks that are wide enough and lawns that are flat enough that 6' isn't an issue.

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lisamarlene wrote:why not?Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:State rivalries aside, Whataburger is a big one on a very small list of things I miss about Texas.I don't know that I've ever seen a Chick-Fil-A or Whataburger, though I'm sure there are some around here.
Chorizo burgers with the creamy chili sauce.
Spicy ketchup.
Dr. Pepper milkshakes.I have not been to an In-n-Out burger (and, yes, Dallas has them) since I moved.
I love In-n-Out, but it just does not compare with Whataburger.

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Freehold DM wrote:I love In-n-Out, but it just does not compare with Whataburger.lisamarlene wrote:why not?Orthos wrote:NobodysHome wrote:State rivalries aside, Whataburger is a big one on a very small list of things I miss about Texas.I don't know that I've ever seen a Chick-Fil-A or Whataburger, though I'm sure there are some around here.
Chorizo burgers with the creamy chili sauce.
Spicy ketchup.
Dr. Pepper milkshakes.I have not been to an In-n-Out burger (and, yes, Dallas has them) since I moved.
What Orthos said.

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LAst time I saw a Kroger I was living in Florida after Katrina.
None of those listed are near me, (I have at least HEARD of a Food4Less) otherwise I would gladly boycott them for that kind of treatment. That is just,... wrong.
Just as I do my best to avoid Walmart (which I live almost directly behind now) because of all of their current practices. Most of which involve hosing over their employees. (My grandmother spent most of her life working at her local Walmart until she retired. The things they do now?!?! I have NO doubt she is spinning in her grave like a top because of them)
;P
Stay safe (And SANE) everyone!

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Well, I've never been a fan of In-n-Out, but I think that's because we have a lot of excellent burger joints around here. Al's Big Burger is just down the road and provides a nice "better than any fast food place" burger. Umami Burger was the best any of us had ever had, but then they changed owners and the usual story, "Hey! I can cut the quality of these ingredients and make a bundle!" and we haven't been back.
Right now my go-to place for "best of the best" is Counter Burger in Fremont, where you have a little card and you check off what you want on your burger.
On our 2024 Eclipse road trip, we'll have to drive through Texas, so I'll make sure we try a Whataburger or two.
As for this summer, we've already canceled Vegas and we're planning yet another Big Old RV (BORV) trip to the Grand Canyon, which should be all kinds of fun. Just need to wait a bit to make sure the lockdown has lifted by then. It would be awfully annoying to reserve and RV for 9 days and then not be able to use it.
EDIT: And what happened with Umami Burger is the problem with virtually all chains/institutions: Once the original owner is no longer in control, they go into the toilet. Everett&Jones in Berkeley is a fantastic example: They used to do ribs the likes of which I've never seen a remote rival to. Even when I was in Houston my friend took me to "the best rib place" in Houston, and it didn't hold a candle to E&J. But then the owner handed it down to his son, and these days you can probably get better ribs at a frigging deli counter at a grocery store; their stuff is terrible.
Yet people who remember the good old days still religiously evangelize the "amazement" that is E&J, and bring all their out of town friends there, and say, "These are the best ribs you'll ever have!", and the friends will wonder, "Just when did you lose your taste buds?"
So there are really good places, and there are places that used to be really good, and it's amazing how much trouble locals have telling them apart.

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NH: I suspect some of it is nostalgia as a condiment.
Nothing breaks the culinary heart more than going to a place that's been a staple for most of one's life and they change their mainstay 'because it's cheaper this way' or 'we're having supply issues'.
Happened with a sandwich shop in the area that's been around for forty years. They went from 'subs you could make two meals out of if you were a BIG eater' to 'slightly more meat than Subway' while jacking the price by a third.

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Well, I've never been a fan of In-n-Out, but I think that's because we have a lot of excellent burger joints around here. Al's Big Burger is just down the road and provides a nice "better than any fast food place" burger. Umami Burger was the best any of us had ever had, but then they changed owners and the usual story, "Hey! I can cut the quality of these ingredients and make a bundle!" and we haven't been back.
Right now my go-to place for "best of the best" is Counter Burger in Fremont, where you have a little card and you check off what you want on your burger.
On our 2024 Eclipse road trip, we'll have to drive through Texas, so I'll make sure we try a Whataburger or two.
As for this summer, we've already canceled Vegas and we're planning yet another Big Old RV (BORV) trip to the Grand Canyon, which should be all kinds of fun. Just need to wait a bit to make sure the lockdown has lifted by then. It would be awfully annoying to reserve and RV for 9 days and then not be able to use it.
EDIT: And what happened with Umami Burger is the problem with virtually all chains/institutions: Once the original owner is no longer in control, they go into the toilet. Everett&Jones in Berkeley is a fantastic example: They used to do ribs the likes of which I've never seen a remote rival to. Even when I was in Houston my friend took me to "the best rib place" in Houston, and it didn't hold a candle to E&J. But then the owner handed it down to his son, and these days you can probably get better ribs at a frigging deli counter at a grocery store; their stuff is terrible.
Yet people who remember the good old days still religiously evangelize the "amazement" that is E&J, and bring all their out of town friends there, and say, "These are the best ribs you'll ever have!", and the friends will wonder, "Just when did you lose your taste buds?"So there are really good places, and there are places that used to be really good, and it's amazing how much trouble locals have...
NH, you would hate Whataburger.
A lot of folks swear by Jake's or Keller's, but IMHO, the best burger and shake in town are at a tiny little place called the Dairyette.
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Yeah, I'll have to second Lisa. As much as I love WB, it's loving it on the scale of chain restaurants. There's a ceiling to that, and most local places are at least a little above it, if not massively so.
I can definitely tell you around here there's a tier list for chains and a separate tier list for local joints. I'd say the best burgers bar none here come from a shack-like stop on a back road called Fat Boy's.

Face-Palm |
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A good explanation of why Texas is behind the curve right now...
Please. I can't take any more. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.....

NobodysHome |
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Oh, I have to rescind my previous statement: We have encountered one burger beyond anything Umami burger ever sold: There's some upscale steak place down in San Jose that Shiro took us to, and there was a $75 Kobe beef burger. Yes. A $75 burger. So of course Hi had to order it.
He quite literally cried after his first bite, and said he'd never be able to eat a burger again, because this one put all the others to shame.
Yes, it was indeed the best burger I'd ever tasted.
No, I wouldn't order it again, because $75 will get me a full meal at Rivoli, and I'm afraid that's still better than any burger.

The Vagrant Erudite |
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lisamarlene wrote:A good explanation of why Texas is behind the curve right now...Please. I can't take any more. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.....
Too lazy to put up a Joker "you get what you deserve" meme but...yeah...

Eranex the Runemasked |
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Face-Palm wrote:Too lazy to put up a Joker "you get what you deserve" meme but...yeah...lisamarlene wrote:A good explanation of why Texas is behind the curve right now...Please. I can't take any more. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.....
I thought it was "you only get what you give".

Freehold DM |
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lisamarlene wrote:A good explanation of why Texas is behind the curve right now...Please. I can't take any more. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.....
damn.
That's...*sigh*
I'll prepare room for you on my couch. Your kid can get my second bed. WW sleeps on the floor, near my gaming stuff.

Freehold DM |
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Oh, I have to rescind my previous statement: We have encountered one burger beyond anything Umami burger ever sold: There's some upscale steak place down in San Jose that Shiro took us to, and there was a $75 Kobe beef burger. Yes. A $75 burger. So of course Hi had to order it.
He quite literally cried after his first bite, and said he'd never be able to eat a burger again, because this one put all the others to shame.
Yes, it was indeed the best burger I'd ever tasted.
No, I wouldn't order it again, because $75 will get me a full meal at Rivoli, and I'm afraid that's still better than any burger.
hmph.
Send me this "burger" that I might judge for myself.

Freehold DM |
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NobodysHome wrote:...Well, I've never been a fan of In-n-Out, but I think that's because we have a lot of excellent burger joints around here. Al's Big Burger is just down the road and provides a nice "better than any fast food place" burger. Umami Burger was the best any of us had ever had, but then they changed owners and the usual story, "Hey! I can cut the quality of these ingredients and make a bundle!" and we haven't been back.
Right now my go-to place for "best of the best" is Counter Burger in Fremont, where you have a little card and you check off what you want on your burger.
On our 2024 Eclipse road trip, we'll have to drive through Texas, so I'll make sure we try a Whataburger or two.
As for this summer, we've already canceled Vegas and we're planning yet another Big Old RV (BORV) trip to the Grand Canyon, which should be all kinds of fun. Just need to wait a bit to make sure the lockdown has lifted by then. It would be awfully annoying to reserve and RV for 9 days and then not be able to use it.
EDIT: And what happened with Umami Burger is the problem with virtually all chains/institutions: Once the original owner is no longer in control, they go into the toilet. Everett&Jones in Berkeley is a fantastic example: They used to do ribs the likes of which I've never seen a remote rival to. Even when I was in Houston my friend took me to "the best rib place" in Houston, and it didn't hold a candle to E&J. But then the owner handed it down to his son, and these days you can probably get better ribs at a frigging deli counter at a grocery store; their stuff is terrible.
Yet people who remember the good old days still religiously evangelize the "amazement" that is E&J, and bring all their out of town friends there, and say, "These are the best ribs you'll ever have!", and the friends will wonder, "Just when did you lose your taste buds?"So there are really good places, and there are places that used to be really good, and it's amazing how
hmmm...
Does Dairyette have parking in the rear?

Freehold DM |
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Yeah, I'll have to second Lisa. As much as I love WB, it's loving it on the scale of chain restaurants. There's a ceiling to that, and most local places are at least a little above it, if not massively so.
I can definitely tell you around here there's a tier list for chains and a separate tier list for local joints. I'd say the best burgers bar none here come from a shack-like stop on a back road called Fat Boy's.
I will comprise a list of places up here that you might enjoy.