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NobodysHome wrote:


But what we have are people who just feel like, "Oh, I've waited long enough. I'm hitting the gas and the other guy'll hit the brakes. It'll be fine."
And that "waited long enough" is usually under 15 seconds.

...and some people wonder why I don't have a license...

No, it wasn't taken away. I just knew nearly thirty years ago that I wasn't a safe driver and got too easily distracted... and that was pre-celphones...

*quickly puts on a bathrobe because WHUPS!*


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Don't feel bad, Wei Ji. I don't have a license either. I've seen the risks that other drivers take, especially here in Pittsburgh. And being in an accident every other day or being the target of a Road Rage incident doesn't appeal to me.


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Yeah, Pittsburgh is kind of terrifying, especially with folks that keep their heads down in their texting *WHILE DRIVING*.

At least around the Chicagoland area, things are relatively 'flat' and you can see stuff happening.

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Sorry was busy in meetings today. Also yeah water/air based encounters tend to screw PCs over. Meh still remember fun times I was crossing a bridge when some nasty gobbles cut the bridge ropes. I managed to pass my ref save to hang on to the bridge. So party threw me a rope, so I could either take the rope and get pulled back by the party, or climb the bridge that was now leaning on the cliff face to the gobbies. I chose to climb the bridge, with 80 ft of empty air, then water underneath me. Talk about bad@ss.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I got another kill at game tonight.

I'm just gonna sit here and be jealous. grumbles about Rainbow


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So cold outside today!

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Run strange aeons.Lots of ways to kill PCs.

Strange Aeons:

The mod starts with a TPK. You have to die to live again...

Again maybe not for kids. But Im pretty sure I could run a kid-friendly strange aeons game.


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Oh, Crimson Throne has its methods, too. They just happened to hit on a completely off-the-wall tactic that all but crippled

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TPK Queen Lady Andaisin
as a spellcaster, which made them far more prepared for
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her Daughter of Urgathoa phase
than they should have been.

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My group constantly comes up with copious heaps of cheese I get to deal with =)

Basically give them any kind of prep time and they can pretty much steamroll anything.

Oh well.


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Mine is so hit or miss. They're totally new to Pathfinder, and the fact that no one has died yet is a miracle of pure dumb luck. A few of them are really starting to get a grasp on their classes, but most of the campaign is just out of nowhere why on earth would anyone ever think to do that? type of stuff. And then the really, really easy things stall them out. Such as...

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A clearly-labeled lever of "left goes up, right does down" took them ten minutes to stop arguing about what to do. They also bypassed the NE-only trap because the alchemist wanted to look at the cool evil door, only for the cleric to insist they shut the door because she wanted to see what happened if she opened it.

It's really weird. The more competent they get, the more bizarre the ideas become. And yes, before Orthos says anything, I know quite well that after our Kingmaker campaign, I have very little room to talk about bizarre tactics.


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I'm always surprised by what my party considers edible.

Ever since their first Reefclaw the first thing they ask is "can we eat it?"


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gran rey de los mono wrote:
I got another kill at game tonight. This time it was the Alchemist (who just joined the group two weeks ago when the player's Cleric died). Honestly, though, I'm not sure if I should get credit, or if the Paladin should. The party found a room with large lily pads floating in the air over a 100' drop. The Alchemist decided he would try crossing first. So they tied 2 50' ropes together, one end around his waist, and the other end around the Samurai's waist, and let him proceed across. He made it halfway before the Fey Giant Dragonfly attacked. It bit him, grabbed him, and then on the next round knocked him unconscious and dropped him on one of the lily pads. The Paladin then pulled the rope to try and bring the Alchemist back to the party (the last thing the Alchemist said before being KO'd was "Pull me back!!!"), which led to him being pendulumed into the wall. I decided that penduluming from 50' out was similar to falling 30', rolled 3d6 damage, and the Alchemist was dead. Funnily enough, a few rounds later the Samurai had been dragged by the Dragonfly out into the middle of the room and then failed his jump check to go from lily pad to lily pad and also pendulumed into the wall, taking 3d6 damage. But he survived.

Ah, physics! You wacky cruel mistress, you!


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Just a Mort wrote:
Sorry was busy in meetings today. Also yeah water/air based encounters tend to screw PCs over. Meh still remember fun times I was crossing a bridge when some nasty gobbles cut the bridge ropes. I managed to pass my ref save to hang on to the bridge. So party threw me a rope, so I could either take the rope and get pulled back by the party, or climb the bridge that was now leaning on the cliff face to the gobbies. I chose to climb the bridge, with 80 ft of empty air, then water underneath me. Talk about bad@ss.

I know that AP...


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Scintillae wrote:
A clearly-labeled lever of "left goes up, right does down"

Over the years, I have found that the absolute best way to stop a party dead in its tracks is to provide a clear, truthful sign.


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Happy birthday Syrus!


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Current events class is discussing the Amazon Go store.

"So, why do you think they're not telling how exactly it works?"
"Competition?"
"Yeah, you don't want to give Walmart an excuse to have even less checkouts open."

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You clearly have not seen my master of fallen fortress run.

Master of Fallen Fortress:

Giant Frog encounter? Party's stirfrying frog legs

Bat swarm? One burning hands later by the optimized crossblooded, spell specialization sorcerer, party is eating fried bats.

Giant Spider? Roast the spider legs over the fire.


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But did they make Ogre Sweetbreads.

"The secret ingredient is inbreeding" - Crookshanks.

Or what about Roasted Dire Corby

"It tastes like chicken!... And doom!" - The General.

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captain yesterday wrote:

I'm always surprised by what my party considers edible.

Ever since their first Reefclaw the first thing they ask is "can we eat it?"

If it looks like lobster, moves like lobster, it probably tastes like lobster =)

I'd eat reefclaw too =)


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Bring a lot of butter.


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NobodysHome's Driving Experiences
(I was going to spoiler this whole thing, but I figure some people will want to reply, so here we go...)

In the courses of travel for business and leisure, I've driven in dozens of cities and 7 different "countries": Australia, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, the United States, and Wales. (Yeah, yeah, I know, UK, you're all 'United' -- but it doesn't mean they don't all WANT to be different countries...)

So, here are some highlights/lowlights:

  • Boston: I was relatively amazed when everyone warned me how bad drivers in Boston were, and I had no trouble at all. It reminded me of home. So either I was in the wrong place, or it was in the wrong time of year, or Boston drivers get a bad rap.
  • Chicago: Chicago's the one place that made me feel guilty about driving like a Californian. The drivers there were SOOOO timid! I'd do the usual, "Wait for a space, then signal and move into it at the same time," and the other drivers would immediately slow down to allow me as much room as possible. It was just a surreal experience seeing so many drivers working so hard to avoid getting in my way. Then we got 6" of snow, and all the drivers on the road knew how to drive in snow. Considering I spent weeks every year driving in the Sierras and watching idiots in SUVs with 4 wheel drive learning that 4 wheel drive means nothing in terms of ability to go around corners on icy roads at high speeds, it was a nice experience.
  • Dallas: OMG, wow! More than anywhere I've ever driven, "I'm going to do 35 in the left lane of this 65 mph freeway," is a standard of living there. It's so bad that every 100-200 yards there's a sign that says, "If you're doing under the speed limit, please stay out of the left lane." Everyone ignores it. I've never been anywhere with drivers who so flagrantly ignore the speed limit... by driving BELOW it by 15-20 mph! And I've driven in Florida for gosh' sake.
  • Hawaii: Hawaii was worth noting just because of the sheer laid-backedness of the drivers. It wasn't particularly noteworthy in terms of driver behavior, other than a general attitude of, "Whatever you're doing, dude, it's cool!" Similar to Chicago, it was a rather relaxing place to drive.
  • Los Angeles: Los Angeles is hilarious in that the drivers are so inured to traffic jams that they're easily the best drivers I've ever encountered in terms of traffic jams: Get in your lane, stay in your lane, and suck it. Yeah, there are the, "Use the exit lanes as a shortcut" jerks, but the exit lanes get so jammed up that they're not as bad as they are in the Bay Area.
    The problems occur once there isn't traffic. Los Angelans (Los Angelinos?) have no idea how to drive on an open freeway! They drive along, then panic and hit the brakes, just because they've never experienced an open road before. I don't mind driving in L.A. traffic. I hate driving in L.A. in light traffic because the drivers have no fricking clue what they're doing.
  • Pittsburgh: Pittburgh introduced me to the "Pittsburgh left", where a car turning left floors it the moment the light turns green, cutting off oncoming traffic in the hopes of making it through the intersection. I hate it. It's one of the stupidest, most dangerous maneuvers I've ever seen. And I've started seeing it around the Bay Area. Talk about encouraging head-on collisions!
  • San Francisco: Driving in the city proper is Hell itself. I utterly refuse, and let NobodysWife deal with it. Otherwise, I think I've described it a lot: During rush hour, it's not so bad, as everyone knows they're all in it together, so there's some sense of "communal suckage" and the majority of drivers are understanding. Outside of rush hour, drivers are uber-aggressive jerks. And we have all the classic California issues: Passing preferentially on the right, no sense of lane speed at all (it's common for people to drive at 65 in the left lane, then 80 in the second-to-left lane), people so accustomed to "California stops" that they roll through stop signs and red lights even when there's cross traffic or pedestrians, and other lawless idiocy.
  • But after all that, Seattle takes the cake by a mile as having the worst drivers I've ever experienced: They follow the California motif of, "Pass in any lane you want, preferentially on the right, and swerve around as if you're in a video game," but they're the most incompetent drivers I've ever seen. They don't judge distances or other drivers' reactions well, so you're constantly having to brake or swerve to avoid another driver because he or she misjudged the space between your car and theirs. They're just... amazingly bad drivers all around.


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    Seattle driving is absolutely hilarious!


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    Los Angeles: Los Angeles is hilarious in that the drivers are so inured to traffic jams that they're easily the best drivers I've ever encountered in terms of traffic jams: Get in your lane, stay in your lane, and suck it. Yeah, there are the, "Use the exit lanes as a shortcut" jerks, but the exit lanes get so jammed up that they're not as bad as they are in the Bay Area.

    The problems occur once there isn't traffic. Los Angelans (Los Angelinos?) have no idea how to drive on an open freeway! They drive along, then panic and hit the brakes, just because they've never experienced an open road before. I don't mind driving in L.A. traffic. I hate driving in L.A. in light traffic because the drivers have no fricking clue what they're doing.

    "What is happening?! Where is everyone? Have I missed the Rapture?! Was I left here alone! Did aliens abducted everyone but me? Had I felt between moments of time? Are the langoliers coming? Help! Somebody! Whoever! Don't leave me alone!"


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    Pittsburgh: Pittburgh introduced me to the "Pittsburgh left", where a car turning left floors it the moment the light turns green, cutting off oncoming traffic in the hopes of making it through the intersection. I hate it. It's one of the stupidest, most dangerous maneuvers I've ever seen. And I've started seeing it around the Bay Area. Talk about encouraging head-on collisions!

    This is the primary reason I don't drive. Also, the tendency of drivers to blow through a stop sign without looking while turning left onto a 4-lane highway, crossing two lanes of traffic. I was in a bad accident that sent me to a Hospital some years ago. Yeah, I really don't have a lot of trust in the drivers around me here. And the drivers that cut off a bus that masses several times more than their little four-door. Go figure.


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    Los Angeles: Los Angeles is hilarious in that the drivers are so inured to traffic jams that they're easily the best drivers I've ever encountered in terms of traffic jams: Get in your lane, stay in your lane, and suck it. Yeah, there are the, "Use the exit lanes as a shortcut" jerks, but the exit lanes get so jammed up that they're not as bad as they are in the Bay Area.

    The problems occur once there isn't traffic. Los Angelans (Los Angelinos?) have no idea how to drive on an open freeway! They drive along, then panic and hit the brakes, just because they've never experienced an open road before. I don't mind driving in L.A. traffic. I hate driving in L.A. in light traffic because the drivers have no fricking clue what they're doing.
    "What is happening?! Where is everyone? Have I missed the Rapture?! Was I left here alone! Did aliens abducted everyone but me? Had I felt between moments of time? Are the langoliers coming? Help! Somebody! Whoever! Don't leave me alone!"

    Nah, you're fine. Open freeways are just signs of areas of low population density. The Los Angelinos are just used to having more people around them. Or they're agoraphobic.


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    Leaving for work now. See everyone later.


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    Chicago traffic is considered to be fairly aggressive by Midwestern standards. Aside from a few rush hour interchanges that are always a standstill, it's really not nearly as bad as most of the local rural population think it to be.


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    Good lord, the kids assume everything we read involves someone having an affair.


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    Scintillae wrote:
    Good lord, the kids assume everything we read involves someone having an affair.

    Winnie The Pooh?


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    NobodysHome's Driving Experiences

    (I was going to spoiler this whole thing, but I figure some people will want to reply, so here we go...)

    In the courses of travel for business and leisure, I've driven in dozens of cities and 7 different "countries": Australia, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, the United States, and Wales. (Yeah, yeah, I know, UK, you're all 'United' -- but it doesn't mean they don't all WANT to be different countries...)

    So, here are some highlights/lowlights:

  • Boston: I was relatively amazed when everyone warned me how bad drivers in Boston were, and I had no trouble at all. It reminded me of home. So either I was in the wrong place, or it was in the wrong time of year, or Boston drivers get a bad rap.
  • Chicago: Chicago's the one place that made me feel guilty about driving like a Californian. The drivers there were SOOOO timid! I'd do the usual, "Wait for a space, then signal and move into it at the same time," and the other drivers would immediately slow down to allow me as much room as possible. It was just a surreal experience seeing so many drivers working so hard to avoid getting in my way. Then we got 6" of snow, and all the drivers on the road knew how to drive in snow. Considering I spent weeks every year driving in the Sierras and watching idiots in SUVs with 4 wheel drive learning that 4 wheel drive means nothing in terms of ability to go around corners on icy roads at high speeds, it was a nice experience.
  • Dallas: OMG, wow! More than anywhere I've ever driven, "I'm going to do 35 in the left lane of this 65 mph freeway," is a standard of living there. It's so bad that every 100-200 yards there's a sign that says, "If you're doing under the speed limit, please stay out of the left lane." Everyone ignores it. I've never been anywhere with drivers who so flagrantly ignore the speed limit... by driving BELOW it by 15-20 mph! And I've driven in Florida for gosh' sake....
  • pats the asphalt lovingly

    Come.

    To.

    New.

    York.


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    John Napier 698 wrote:
    Drejk wrote:
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    Los Angeles: Los Angeles is hilarious in that the drivers are so inured to traffic jams that they're easily the best drivers I've ever encountered in terms of traffic jams: Get in your lane, stay in your lane, and suck it. Yeah, there are the, "Use the exit lanes as a shortcut" jerks, but the exit lanes get so jammed up that they're not as bad as they are in the Bay Area.

    The problems occur once there isn't traffic. Los Angelans (Los Angelinos?) have no idea how to drive on an open freeway! They drive along, then panic and hit the brakes, just because they've never experienced an open road before. I don't mind driving in L.A. traffic. I hate driving in L.A. in light traffic because the drivers have no fricking clue what they're doing.
    "What is happening?! Where is everyone? Have I missed the Rapture?! Was I left here alone! Did aliens abducted everyone but me? Had I felt between moments of time? Are the langoliers coming? Help! Somebody! Whoever! Don't leave me alone!"
    Nah, you're fine. Open freeways are just signs of areas of low population density. The Los Angelinos are just used to having more people around them. Or they're agoraphobic.

    ive had that happen once or twice while driving to cons.


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    Oh, I forgot to give credit where credit is due: In terms of, "Who the **** decided to take this 2,500-year-old cart track created by a drunken farmer whose asses were full of whiskey, pave it, and call it a road?", Ireland wins, hands-down.

    I've never experienced anything like their "roads".

    My favorite moment: Driving the Circle of Kerry, cracking the windshield, losing a hubcap, denting a fender, scraping the bottom right undercarriage, and having the rental car guy look it over and say, "Oh, that's perfectly normal! No charge!"

    They expect the roads to be that bad!


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    Central Wisconsin and their fondness for gravel roads are close but of you want truly pitted roads the Colorado Rockies are the place for you.


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    The worst place I ever drove though is straight across Montana. 900 miles and nothing to look at makes you go something, something.

    And the drivers of Butte are a$#*#+~s.


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    captain yesterday wrote:

    The worst place I ever drove though is straight across Montana. 900 miles and nothing to look at makes you go something, something.

    And the drivers of Butte are a@&@$%%s.

    i went through that in ohio.

    Nothing but the sky.

    Highway hypnosis is real.


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    On a The Awesomes binge today.

    Started out 12 degrees when we went to school, dropped down to 5 degrees by noon and we've since rebounded up to 7.

    Yesterday at this time it was 42 degrees.

    Eye twitches, ever so slightly.


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    Cap'n Yesterdays Winter Madness wrote:

    On a The Awesomes binge today.

    Started out 12 degrees when we went to school, dropped down to 5 degrees by noon and we've since rebounded up to 7.

    Yesterday at this time it was 42 degrees.

    Eye twitches, ever so slightly.

    ^_~


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:

    The worst place I ever drove though is straight across Montana. 900 miles and nothing to look at makes you go something, something.

    And the drivers of Butte are a@&@$%%s.

    i went through that in ohio.

    Nothing but the sky.

    Highway hypnosis is real.

    Illinois and Indiana aren't any better for that. But I70 through Ohio does make me want to gouge my own eyes out. Also, Ohio state cops are...shall we say zealous?

    Every time I have to make a trip out to Maryland/Virginia the worst part of coming home is coming out of the hills/low mountains of the Appalachians and getting dumped into Ohio. Then the depression kicks in as I realize I'm only in Ohio and I also have all of Indiana and about 70% of Illinois to go.


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    Cap'n Yesterdays Winter Madness wrote:

    On a The Awesomes binge today.

    Started out 12 degrees when we went to school, dropped down to 5 degrees by noon and we've since rebounded up to 7.

    Yesterday at this time it was 42 degrees.

    Eye twitches, ever so slightly.

    ^_~

    The best winter weather is 25 degrees, calm, and snowing.


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    captain yesterday wrote:
    Freehold DM wrote:
    Cap'n Yesterdays Winter Madness wrote:

    On a The Awesomes binge today.

    Started out 12 degrees when we went to school, dropped down to 5 degrees by noon and we've since rebounded up to 7.

    Yesterday at this time it was 42 degrees.

    Eye twitches, ever so slightly.

    ^_~
    The best winter weather is 2 or 5 degrees, calm, and snowing.

    fify


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    As long as it's calm and snowing, 2-5 degrees is fine.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Oh, I forgot to give credit where credit is due: In terms of, "Who the **** decided to take this 2,500-year-old cart track created by a drunken farmer whose asses were full of whiskey, pave it, and call it a road?", Ireland wins, hands-down.

    I've never experienced anything like their "roads".

    My favorite moment: Driving the Circle of Kerry, cracking the windshield, losing a hubcap, denting a fender, scraping the bottom right undercarriage, and having the rental car guy look it over and say, "Oh, that's perfectly normal! No charge!"

    They expect the roads to be that bad!

    Uh, that might be worse than roads we have here. Might.


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    NobodysWife just sometimes doesn't understand impulsive stupidity.

    She sent me and Shiro this video.

    So now the big question is, "When can we take 3 weeks off from work so we can rent 2-3 giant RVs, drive to Florida in them, stay in that house for a week, and then drive home?"

    NobodysWife: <headdesk>

    EDIT: And yes. Considering the house fits 45 people and we just don't have that many friends, in the unlikely event this plan ever comes to fruition we'll invite all the FaWtLers and pick them up along the way. Unless "the way" involves driving an RV across the Atlantic (or Pacific). RVs handle like crap in the ocean.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    NobodysWife just sometimes doesn't understand impulsive stupidity.

    She sent me and Shiro this video.

    So now the big question is, "When can we take 3 weeks off from work so we can rent 2-3 giant RVs, drive to Florida in them, stay in that house for a week, and then drive home?"

    NobodysWife: <headdesk>

    EDIT: And yes. Considering the house fits 45 people and we just don't have that many friends, in the unlikely event this plan ever comes to fruition we'll invite all the FaWtLers and pick them up along the way. Unless "the way" involves driving an RV across the Atlantic (or Pacific). RVs handle like crap in the ocean.

    sticks out thumb, aphrodisiacs, waits for NobodysCar


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    Florida genuinely scares me.


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    I'd be game for that trip.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    NobodysWife just sometimes doesn't understand impulsive stupidity.

    She sent me and Shiro this video.

    So now the big question is, "When can we take 3 weeks off from work so we can rent 2-3 giant RVs, drive to Florida in them, stay in that house for a week, and then drive home?"

    NobodysWife: <headdesk>

    Wait... What did she expect when she sent you that?!

    Quote:
    EDIT: And yes. Considering the house fits 45 people and we just don't have that many friends, in the unlikely event this plan ever comes to fruition we'll invite all the FaWtLers and pick them up along the way.

    YAY!

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    Unless "the way" involves driving an RV across the Atlantic (or Pacific). RVs handle like crap in the ocean.

    Boooo!


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    NobodysWife just sometimes doesn't understand impulsive stupidity.

    She sent me and Shiro this video.

    So now the big question is, "When can we take 3 weeks off from work so we can rent 2-3 giant RVs, drive to Florida in them, stay in that house for a week, and then drive home?"

    NobodysWife: <headdesk>

    EDIT: And yes. Considering the house fits 45 people and we just don't have that many friends, in the unlikely event this plan ever comes to fruition we'll invite all the FaWtLers and pick them up along the way. Unless "the way" involves driving an RV across the Atlantic (or Pacific). RVs handle like crap in the ocean.

    My cousin might let us borrow his ship. Strictly speaking, it doesn't belong to him personally, but let's not split hairs.


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    Freehold, take note.


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    1) A belated "Thanks!" to Tequila for the birthday well-wishes.

    2) Bad Driving Zones: I-10 in Florida (Really??!), and EVERY PART OF MISSOURI. All of it. All the time.

    3) I will eagerly await word of your cross-country voyage, NH, and will attend the party. If y'all can stand it. :)

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