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Tacticslion wrote:

Idea: level caps for some Martials (like AD&D) but without sucking.

More later.

edit: heh, phones

Put into practice.

No idea if it's a good practice, or not, but I like it just looking at it.


*re-clothes self*

Whoops. Left my clothes at the workplace again!


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Freehold needs food.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Freehold needs food.

Elf stole all the food.


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And speaking of food, for those as are interested I weighed in at 198.8 this morning, well ahead of schedule. Looked in the fridge at all the nommy nommy leftover chicken strips and fries from Impus Minor's dinner last night, the high-end cheddar...
...and ate...
...an apple.

Stupid accursed diet plan is working. Bleah.


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D'oh! I started downloading the new operating system for my computer, the estimated time is all over the map, it's a good thing Tiny T-Rex is distracting himself by chasing the last flies of the season with ninja turtle weapons, you know the episode of Arrested Development where Buster is chasing a bird around the penthouse, like that except with cheaper decore.


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The Doomkitten wrote:

0.0

I think both you and I need to both stare at pictures at cute kittens for a while after reading/writing that.

Aranna wrote:
Yeah my Tornado of a mom is all hugs and kittens compared to that. I feel like I need meds just reading it.

Yea, my family is pretty screwed up. I suppose there is a reason I don't really talk to most of them that much. I'm closest to my dad (Who started acting like a responsible adult for the first time in his life after getting out of prison), my paternal grandmother (The best adjusted and most sane member of my family, who gave me free room and board for two years while I studied at the wonderful De Anza College.), and my sister (Largely disenchanted with the family's crap.). Interestingly enough, they and the uncle who lives with my grandma are the members of my family who live in the San Francisco Bay Area like I do. Everybody else is in Colorado or dead. Except for the uncle in Texas, but my relationship with him is largely neutral.


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Now it's installing...


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Aranna wrote:

Black sheep... I am slightly envious of the black sheep. They seem to get SO MUCH more attention from their families than the rest of us get. I have to constantly remind myself that a lot of that is negative attention but not all of it.

Family to black sheep: If you change your ways we will do all these nice things for you!
Black sheep: Go away!
Normal Sheep: I am doing all the stuff you want already can I get the nice things?
Family to normal sheep: We are sorry but you don't need the nice things, you can manage on your own since you are doing just fine.

Frustrating.

Yeah....my family never got that memo...

Being the black sheep in my family means being held to impossible standards and forever after criticized for failing them. And lots of talking about me behind my back. Someone has to be the star of the family gossip mill I guess.
My younger sisters reaped the benefits in that my parents realized that their expectations were unrealistic after it blew up in their face so bad. So they got reasonable rules and help paying for college. But I still have more freedom to tell my dad off than they do. Trade-offs. :)


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Freehold DM wrote:
lynora wrote:

TL, I have very severe allergies and have gotten very very sick in the past because of well meaning people who didn't understand about cross contamination. So I always bring a bento if I get roped into going to a potluck event. It is never an enjoyable experience but there are different levels on traumatic depending on the group.

Husband's family: sister in law is no longer talking to me because she thinks I'm doing this to spite her. *rolls eyes*
My family: thinks I'm being weird and overdramatic but that was the prevailing opinion about me pre-allergies so no big deal (and this is why I don't visit)
Church gatherings: how to lose friends and develop yet less faith in humanity
Husband's work gatherings: just shoot me now...
School gatherings: now here are some people who understand food allergies. Excellent place to find fellow allergy sufferers and exchange recipes.
that is awful. I now need to know your food allergies for when you visit new York for a trip to katz deli.

Wheat and fish. So you know, just the stuff they put in everything. :P


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lynora wrote:
But I still have more freedom to tell my dad off than they do. Trade-offs. :)

Flagrantly going against my stepdad's wishes by cancelling my registration at the University of Montana and moving to California to go to community college was the moment that began my shift from child to adult in his eyes. On the other hand, he views it as choosing my father over him and my mom, so yea, trade offs.


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Aranna wrote:

I used to despise zucchini when I was growing up. Nasty tasting and vile and the worst thing for "You have to eat everything on your plate!" arguments. BUT once by accident as an adult I ate a zucchini dish and it was amazing and tasty... to say I was stunned when I learned what it was is an understatement. It... it would be like if Freehold DM went to a movie and absolutely thought it was the best show ever, only to discover later that it was made by Joss Whedon. Mind altering stuff.

Turns out it wasn't zucchini I hated but the way it was prepared or grown maybe.

I had the same thing happen with brussel sprouts. Turns out I actually like the stuff.

But Lima beans are still evil and disgusting. :)


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
lots of family drama

*hugs* for Rosita. It sounds like you could use a lot of them.


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
lynora wrote:
But I still have more freedom to tell my dad off than they do. Trade-offs. :)
Flagrantly going against my stepdad's wishes by cancelling my registration at the University of Montana and moving to California to go to community college was the moment that began my shift from child to adult in his eyes. On the other hand, he views it as choosing my father over him and my mom, so yea, trade offs.

It's hard when family doesn't understand. You're doing great though, and you will continue to do so. Because you're a strong person and you got this. :)

(Figured you could use some cheerleading there.)


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Still installing...


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At least you have FAWTL to entertain you (presumably via phone?) while you wait.


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And now to go do two hours driving to get the kidlet's new glasses frames. Bleh. But needs must and all that. At least I won't have to keep taping the current ones together. I have no luck with adhesives. They always give out. Superglue too. It's utterly useless. And I don't know why they make such a fuss about getting it on your skin. The stuff peels off like elmers. My husband jokes that I'm made of universal solvent. :P


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deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...

deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...

deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...

deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...

deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...

deep breaths

Must not take things at work personally...


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lynora wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
lynora wrote:

TL, I have very severe allergies and have gotten very very sick in the past because of well meaning people who didn't understand about cross contamination. So I always bring a bento if I get roped into going to a potluck event. It is never an enjoyable experience but there are different levels on traumatic depending on the group.

Husband's family: sister in law is no longer talking to me because she thinks I'm doing this to spite her. *rolls eyes*
My family: thinks I'm being weird and overdramatic but that was the prevailing opinion about me pre-allergies so no big deal (and this is why I don't visit)
Church gatherings: how to lose friends and develop yet less faith in humanity
Husband's work gatherings: just shoot me now...
School gatherings: now here are some people who understand food allergies. Excellent place to find fellow allergy sufferers and exchange recipes.
that is awful. I now need to know your food allergies for when you visit new York for a trip to katz deli.

Wheat and fish. So you know, just the stuff they put in everything. :P

I'll get you a naked pastrami then.


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No real food allergies here... Unless they put cigarette smoke, aspirin, or Cotten wood in their food.


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None of that stuff kills me though. Aspirin causes so much pain though I wish I was dead.

In other weird Aranna news I am immune to bee and wasp venom.


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I'm allergic to Spruce trees, which sucks because Colorado Blue Spruce is the It tree right now, especially on hillsides that aren't accessible by skid loaders.

Insects don't like me, their venom does almost nothing to me.

Edit: plant toxins in general affect me more, I got Poison Sumac on 80% of my body a few years ago, had to take oatmeal bathes for two weeks.


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Aranna wrote:

Black sheep... I am slightly envious of the black sheep. They seem to get SO MUCH more attention from their families than the rest of us get. I have to constantly remind myself that a lot of that is negative attention but not all of it.

Family to black sheep: If you change your ways we will do all these nice things for you!
Black sheep: Go away!
Normal Sheep: I am doing all the stuff you want already can I get the nice things?
Family to normal sheep: We are sorry but you don't need the nice things, you can manage on your own since you are doing just fine.

Frustrating.

One of us must live in Bizarro world.

Speaking as the black sheep of my own family, everyone's pleasant to me, but have basically written me off as some kind of failed lab experiment. They don't want me to change my ways--honestly, they've got bigger things to think about. Family gatherings are a little awkward, but not too bad, and I usually just end up spending the whole time drinking with my uncle (the previous generation's black sheep) while everyone else grills my cousin about what he's going to do once he graduates from Northeastern.


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Opposite World Freehold wrote:
There are entirely too many alternate universes.

I know, right?


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Freehold needs food.
Elf stole all the food.

Lies, all lies! Lies, I say! Lies! LIES!!!!


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My favorite (and probably the most accurate) song about family gatherings, courtesy of Robert Earl Keen.

Silver Crusade

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I got a seal of approval from the hand specialist. No more hand therapy needed. Yay!


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Aranna wrote:

None of that stuff kills me though. Aspirin causes so much pain though I wish I was dead.

In other weird Aranna news I am immune to bee and wasp venom.

slips put of thread to make phone call

Kack the plan. She's immune. Yes, immune. The venom will have no effect. Time for plan "B"...yes, I realize the irony of the bee plan being plan "A". No, it was not intentional...


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I'm not on Facebook, therefore I am shunned, also having the only girl in two generations of men goes a long way towards your family not contacting me.

Otherwise my email hasn't changed and we've lived in the same house on the other side of town for 10 years.


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lynora wrote:
And now to go do two hours driving to get the kidlet's new glasses frames. Bleh. But needs must and all that. At least I won't have to keep taping the current ones together. I have no luck with adhesives. They always give out. Superglue too. It's utterly useless. And I don't know why they make such a fuss about getting it on your skin. The stuff peels off like elmers. My husband jokes that I'm made of universal solvent. :P

me too. I think it's something in our sweat that causes it to happen.


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Freehold DM wrote:
lynora wrote:
And now to go do two hours driving to get the kidlet's new glasses frames. Bleh. But needs must and all that. At least I won't have to keep taping the current ones together. I have no luck with adhesives. They always give out. Superglue too. It's utterly useless. And I don't know why they make such a fuss about getting it on your skin. The stuff peels off like elmers. My husband jokes that I'm made of universal solvent. :P
me too. I think it's something in our sweat that causes it to happen.

It is obvious that both you and Lynora are too hot to be sticky...


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Chilly today, the kind that doesn't go away easily, why must the layers multiply.

Silver Crusade

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captain yesterday wrote:

I'm not on Facebook, therefore I am shunned, also having the only girl in two generations of men goes a long way towards your family not contacting me.

Otherwise my email hasn't changed and we've lived in the same house on the other side of town for 10 years.

That's surprising. My sister's husband's family was all boys, and when they had a girl, the whole family doted on her as if she was a rare unicorn or something.


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C Yesterday's Autumn Melancholy wrote:
Chilly today, the kind that doesn't go away easily, why must the layers multiply.

It's 85 here. Mid-October. And 85. With no one anywhere around here owning an A/C. Count yer blessin's, son!

(Even NobodysWife, who has to wear a jacket when it drops below 74, has complained, "Can't we have a FEW crisp, cold Fall days before Winter?")

In other news, can anyone tell that I'm in charge of enterprise installations for my department, we decided to try a patch instead of clean install, and I've been watching a frozen progress screen for 3 hours?

Bless you, FaWtL, for giving me somewhere to go when no one else will!

(Of course, I'm also folding laundry, which is also a load-o-fun...)

Silver Crusade

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Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
OMG, overgrown zucchini is a pet peeve of mine. John's boss grows tons of veggies and is always giving us these zucchini that are the size of my calf. They taste about as bitter as a spoonful of baking soda. It drives me crazy. Pick them when they're small, people!
Bigger isn't always better.

True in many instances.


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C Yesterday's Autumn Melancholy wrote:
Chilly today, the kind that doesn't go away easily, why must the layers multiply.

pah. It remains too warm


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NobodysHome wrote:

(Of course, I'm also folding laundry, which is also a load-o-fun...)

EYE C WAT EWE DID THAR.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I'm not on Facebook, therefore I am shunned, also having the only girl in two generations of men goes a long way towards your family not contacting me.

Otherwise my email hasn't changed and we've lived in the same house on the other side of town for 10 years.

That's surprising. My sister's husband's family was all boys, and when they had a girl, the whole family doted on her as if she was a rare unicorn or something.

Same. A family at my church had the first girl after something like seven or eight male grandchildren (with the middle generation a family of five brothers, at that) and she was instantly everyone's favorite.

Does your family just have some macho chauvinism thing going on? No girls allowed?


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
OMG, overgrown zucchini is a pet peeve of mine. John's boss grows tons of veggies and is always giving us these zucchini that are the size of my calf. They taste about as bitter as a spoonful of baking soda. It drives me crazy. Pick them when they're small, people!
Bigger isn't always better.
True in many instances.

et tu, CH?!


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I don't think it's intentionally chauvinistic, but they definitely don't know how to relate to girls, that coupled with me not being a part of the brother clique and not on Facebook means my kids get left out of the trips to the national history museum in Chicago, but they sure do love telling me about them when they take the other nephews.


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-_-


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Why is the video gaming community so damn toxic? Like, set aside the rampant sexism, and it's still pretty bad. Bring up not likjng an element of a game on a gaming board, like the driving in Watch_Dogs or the gunplay in Uncharted, seems to primarily brin cries of "Lol you pussy" and "You are an a$%#%!% for insulting a game I like" and "You are objectively wrong" and even a few "Lol you fail go kill yourself". Hell, somebody mentioned the lighting in Uncharted 1 beig dark enough that they have serious trouble setting at full brightness (a problem I have with the game occasionally) on IGN, and it rapidly degenerated into "You are a liar who has obviously never played the game" and "You are a skillless moron because most people don't have that problem". That's just message boards. We all know about X-Box live.

Seriously, I love video games, but this community is so damn unpleasant so much of the time.


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There's a reason I only really discuss video games with friends or here on Paizo. I've never found a community devoted to a specific game series, genre, or even just video games in general that didn't devolve into adolescent trolling and 4chan-wannabes.

Grand Lodge

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Yeah, sometimes I get blindsided by the toxicity when I comment on video game related Facebook posts.


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Go ahead insult a video game, I dare ya!

I find the dialogue on Lego video games to be lacking, I also would like more gore when the Lego guys fall apart, it doesn't have to be Walking Dead level gore but if it's not then people will pay!!


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Oh, our whole group was playing League of Legends for a while, and therefore spending a great deal of money on them. People asked why we never played PvP, and I pointed to the toxicity of the other players. They said, "Oh, they just love to talk smack."
"No. My teammates. THEY'RE the toxic ones. We have 4 players. We always get a random fifth. Who is always an exemplar of scumsucking d-baggery."
"Oh."

We switched over to Rift, which has a dedicated PvP server so you can ignore them. And just recently they came out with a new quest that required PvP to complete. About the only positive from the whole fiasco was that even the PvPers hated having a horde of noobs dropped among them.

I play to relax.

I do not consider verbal abuse from complete strangers relaxing.

Go figure.


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Also my guy on Red Dead Redemption is a pussy because he dies when I get shot when I press the wrong button to hide behind a barrel, also my horses be b+##@es because they die when I blindly ride then off a cliff.


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NobodysHome wrote:
We switched over to Rift, which has a dedicated PvP server so you can ignore them.

Yep. And the fact that PFO didn't have this was the main reason I didn't want to play it.


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I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.


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1 screaming child: child is fed, changed, and unharmed
1 sleeping child: child is three hours early for bed time
0 adult naps: adult is somewhat sleep deprived

:I

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