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Interesting.


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Freehold DM wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Liking 5E, more and more.
Wish our home campaign of it hadn't disintegrated.
5e uses too many of my homebrew ideas for me to give it a fair shake.

I added WotC to the list of companies I refuse to do business with years ago.


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I have shinies! *steals shiny scales Sharoth decided to drop somewhere*


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Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

I just discovered fft is out for android.

Life is complete.

Is... is it on i-devices, too?!
unsure. Probably as Japan is ab iPhone nation.

I just want to see a man with his abs bejazzled with iDevices, now.


Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

I just discovered fft is out for android.

Life is complete.

Is... is it on i-devices, too?!

It is! But it's 16 dollars! My budget...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

I just discovered fft is out for android.

Life is complete.

Is... is it on i-devices, too?!
It is! But it's 16 dollars! My budget...

Cheaper than trying to get it on PS discs admittedly... but more expensive than Undertale. =)


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David M Mallon wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Train of thought: Space Jesus -> have you found Jesus? -> Enterprise on a five year mission to explore space and find Space Jesus...
they did that movie already, it was awful
Because they weren't looking for Shephard.
That fan fiction exists. I've seen it.

Well, that's kind of truism for any kind of imaginable fan fiction, anyway.


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It's probably because I haven't googled it or anything but the vibe I get from the name Undertale is some sort of weird adult version of children cartoon animals.


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captain yesterday wrote:
It's probably because I haven't googled it or anything but the vibe I get from the name Undertale is some sort of weird adult version of children cartoon animals.

Nah.

It's more Earthbound + Moral Choice System + pseudo-NewGame+ (you don't keep your old stats/gear, but the game remembers choices you made in prior playthroughs and it sometimes changes things) with a great deal of heart-wrenching, an absolutely astounding soundtrack, and a little bit of nightmare fuel thrown in.


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I've determined through years of thorough and exhaustive research that Anubis is my favorite avatar.

At least until they add more images :-)


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Orthos wrote:
Tacs... man, you sure know how to open some big cans of worms. Good luck with that, but I'm staying the heck out of that one.

It's a gift. I hope it's one that's filled with tasty worms instead of hateful bitter ones.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tacs... man, you sure know how to open some big cans of worms. Good luck with that, but I'm staying the heck out of that one.
It's a gift. I hope it's one that's filled with tasty worms instead of hateful bitter ones.

So... Gummi Worms?


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Orthos wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
It's probably because I haven't googled it or anything but the vibe I get from the name Undertale is some sort of weird adult version of children cartoon animals.

Nah.

It's more Earthbound + Moral Choice System + pseudo-NewGame+ with a great deal of heart-wrenching, an absolutely astounding soundtrack, and a little bit of nightmare fuel thrown in.

I think I like randy forest animals better, perhaps a cartoon pitch is forming...


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Heh, most certainly not my sort of thing =P


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I always wanted to find the right project for this avatar.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Best of all, two years ago she made it a competition. We were all judged on the food we brought, and she publicly announced the winners and gave prizes.

She was hoping to affect team morale. She sure as heck did!

Somehow, we at least haven't had the judging since then.

If they would repeat the competition I'd be tempted to rally an underground counter-competition among the coworkers for the worst but still edible dish and proceed to cheer the losers...


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The Ultimate Warriur wrote:
Ninja-Assassin wrote:
The Ultimate Warriur wrote:
Tewe ghoat Prositund Oborohum Lenkuhn, HOAK HOGAHN, "SKROOOOONGK!"

I fixed that for you.

EDIT: Because you're the Ultimate Warriur
EDIT 2: It's what you do.
EDIT 3: Like in the Geico commercials.
EDIT 4: And Dora the Explorer (also in the Geico commercials).

I COME FROM PARTS UNKNOWN!

You leave my unknown parts out of it!


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lynora wrote:
NH, you have the best stories. :)

Or the worst...

Five pounds of good food thrown into trash? Nothing best about that... Not even good...

Ugh.

Wasting food should be punishable with a week of obligatory fasting!


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Limeylongears wrote:

I thought you meant junior Boy Scouts (as were - it was Beavers, Cubs and then Scouts when I were a lad).

After a quick look, this is still the case. Please don't put Beaver Scouts into Google, though, unless you are prepared for a Tuesday Surprise.

I googled Tuesday Surprise instead...

Silver Crusade

Morning all. What did I miss?


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Orthos wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tacs... man, you sure know how to open some big cans of worms. Good luck with that, but I'm staying the heck out of that one.
It's a gift. I hope it's one that's filled with tasty worms instead of hateful bitter ones.
So... Gummi Worms?

Maybe... though, confession: I like the sour ones with the salt better... I really hope that doesn't have social/political/etc. implications or connotations... >.>


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Morning all. What did I miss?

I made bad decisions about starting difficult conversations; Final Fantasy Tactics is, like, the best; Undertale doesn't cost much and lacks cartoon <censored>, so captain yesterday is suggesting that his avatar Bi-Curious George be used to make a project that has it; and Drejk hates stories*.

* This technically accurate statement may be misleading.


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I'm pretty sure there is plenty of dysfunction I'm forgetting to mention. Do I win?

I don't want to play according to rules that would consider that winning :/


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NobodysHome wrote:

Oh, our whole group was playing League of Legends for a while, and therefore spending a great deal of money on them. People asked why we never played PvP, and I pointed to the toxicity of the other players. They said, "Oh, they just love to talk smack."

"No. My teammates. THEY'RE the toxic ones. We have 4 players. We always get a random fifth. Who is always an exemplar of scumsucking d-baggery."
"Oh."

We switched over to Rift, which has a dedicated PvP server so you can ignore them. And just recently they came out with a new quest that required PvP to complete. About the only positive from the whole fiasco was that even the PvPers hated having a horde of noobs dropped among them.

I play to relax.

I do not consider verbal abuse from complete strangers relaxing.

Go figure.

That's why I love LOTRO and Guild Wars 2... LOTRO got a bit worse in recent years with introduction of world chat where people are more and more rude toward each other but it stills an exemplary of people helping people, even giving away nice thingies to noobs just because they are making space in their vaults and don't want to bother auctioning them. Or crafting things for others just because they can.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.

World Of Warcraft design was failure from my point of view with enforced lack of even possibility of communication and cooperation between Alliance and Horde characters, which, after the events of Warcraft 3 was serious step backward, not to mention a breach in lore (majority of orcs in Horde knew at least some scattering of human language, tauren knew night elven language... and don't get me started on forsake and blood elves suddenly refusing to speak common language of Lordaeron)...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Morning all. What did I miss?
Undertale doesn't cost much and lacks cartoon <censored>, so captain yesterday is suggesting that his avatar Bi-Curious George be used to make a project that has it

Hey now its not just a one trick pony i have plenty of other ideas for it; Humpy Bear (our dog has needs, stuffed bears are cheap at thrift stores, so yes there is an actual Humpy Bear, she is lovely) Honeyed Badger, Red Beaver, Fallatio the Giraffe... i could keep going but i'm pretty sure someone will smack me:-)


Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.
World Of Warcraft design was failure from my point of view with enforced lack of even possibility of communication and cooperation between Alliance and Horde characters, which, after the events of Warcraft 3 was serious step backward, not to mention a breach in lore (majority of orcs in Horde knew at least some scattering of human language, tauren knew night elven language... and don't get me started on forsake and blood elves suddenly refusing to speak common language of Lordaeron)...

Aye, but how could they have done the faction split otherwise? Horde vs Alliance I mean.

I also heard that both sides could talk to each other normally back in Beta, and that didn't end well. AT ALL.


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Snow with rain fell on Monday.

Early in the evening (i.e. around 1:30 am on Monday/Tuesday night) I lost internet connection with browser showing message bout unpaid bill. Apparently I deposited money on my account for the direct debit too late so I had to pay at post office and wait approximately 24 hours for the service to be reactivated.


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Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.
World Of Warcraft design was failure from my point of view with enforced lack of even possibility of communication and cooperation between Alliance and Horde characters, which, after the events of Warcraft 3 was serious step backward, not to mention a breach in lore (majority of orcs in Horde knew at least some scattering of human language, tauren knew night elven language... and don't get me started on forsake and blood elves suddenly refusing to speak common language of Lordaeron)...

Yep, and every time players would figure out a way around the language barrier, Blizzard would patch it to screw it up....


Icyshadow wrote:
I also heard that both sides could talk to each other normally back in Beta, and that didn't end well. AT ALL.

Huh, didn't know that.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tacs... man, you sure know how to open some big cans of worms. Good luck with that, but I'm staying the heck out of that one.
It's a gift. I hope it's one that's filled with tasty worms instead of hateful bitter ones.
So... Gummi Worms?
Maybe... though, confession: I like the sour ones with the salt better... I really hope that doesn't have social/political/etc. implications or connotations... >.>

Nah. Sour gummi worms are alright.


Unsurprisingly, a game with faction-based PvP would have a lot of people talking smack at their opposition.

Heck, even with the language barrier, that is a lot of smack talk ABOUT the opposing faction, on both sides of the game.


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Icyshadow wrote:
Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.
World Of Warcraft design was failure from my point of view with enforced lack of even possibility of communication and cooperation between Alliance and Horde characters, which, after the events of Warcraft 3 was serious step backward, not to mention a breach in lore (majority of orcs in Horde knew at least some scattering of human language, tauren knew night elven language... and don't get me started on forsake and blood elves suddenly refusing to speak common language of Lordaeron)...
Aye, but how could they have done the faction split otherwise?

Exactly my point - they shouldn't do the enforced faction split in the first place. Thrall, Jaina, Malfurion, and Tyrande were able to group up and work together.


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Icyshadow wrote:

Unsurprisingly, a game with faction-based PvP would have a lot of people talking smack at their opposition.

Heck, even with the language barrier, that is a lot of smack talk ABOUT the opposing faction, on both sides of the game.

Ah. Yeah I guess that makes sense.

I tended to avoid PvP, as I do in pretty much all games. So I didn't think about that.


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Drejk wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:
Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I really wish I could use diplomacy in Halo 3, maybe if we talk it out they'll understand.
World Of Warcraft design was failure from my point of view with enforced lack of even possibility of communication and cooperation between Alliance and Horde characters, which, after the events of Warcraft 3 was serious step backward, not to mention a breach in lore (majority of orcs in Horde knew at least some scattering of human language, tauren knew night elven language... and don't get me started on forsake and blood elves suddenly refusing to speak common language of Lordaeron)...
Aye, but how could they have done the faction split otherwise?
Exactly my point - they shouldn't do the enforced faction split in the first place. Thrall, Jaina, Malfurion, and Tyrande were able to group up and work together.

I can kind of see it staying in place for the original WoW release, but when you started dealing with bigger problems like the Burning Legion and Illidan in BC and Arthas/Malygos/Yogg-Saron in WOTLK, they really should have considered lowering the faction limitations at least a little bit (outside of Wintergrasp, I suppose, to keep the PvPers happy). Lore-wise, it's really kind of a dumb move to still be bickering between the little localized factions of the Alliance and Horde when you're dealing with demonic invasions, zombie apocalypses, eldritch wrongness, and the god of magic going insane.

By the time Cata came around with Deathwing literally on the loose and potentially capable of flying overhead and roasting you into a smear on the countryside at any second, even the localized faction squabbling stopped making sense.


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I think the point that got me finally going "WHY?" was a daily quest in Grizzly Hills (I think that's the area name? the forested part of Northrend that isn't jungle) where you have to make a PvP raid on the other faction's camp to steal some stuff.

I was just sitting there wondering "Why are we fighting over one camp's worth of resources with the Horde when we should be teaming up and dealing with the psychotic werewolves and continually-worsening Yogg-Saron corruption?"

And don't get me started on the bit in Icecrown where instead of raiding Arthas's citadel, there's an ongoing airship battle between the Alliance and Horde that basically comes down to "WE wanna attack the Lich King first!"


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Oh yeah, that was a horribly stupid boss fight. But at least Muradin didn't try to attack Saurfang after the boss battle right after that one. Oh wait...


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I don't have a problem with fighting going on between various factions over a border regions and resources, but there should be more political intrigue and contact between factions and not forced enmity everywhere.


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Oh yeah. I definitely don't expect things to be all sunshine and rainbows, especially with Varian Wrynn at the helm of the Alliance and Hellscream taking point on the Horde while Thrall's on vacation (or did they retcon/undo that? I forget). But even those two shouldn't be so clueless as to not be willing to put those vendettas aside for a few months/a year while dealing with a far larger, far more immediate threat like the Legion, the Scourge, an Old God waking up, or a crazed Dragon Aspect or two.


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This treads far too close to the "no politics" line to not spoiler it, but this morning was quite the eye-opener on how living in a fear-based society can affect a teenager.

Impus Major's Moment:

Most of you have heard my description of Impus Major: 4'10", 92 pounds, eats virtually nothing but fruits, vegetables, and Marie Callendar and Lean Cuisine meals, and runs a couple of miles a day just because he can't help himself. He's got his little "mini 6 pack" abs and would be any high school girl's dream... if he were scaled up around 25%.

So he's in an "Identity, Health, and Society" class that right-wing pundits would call "a liberal's wet dream". It teaches self-identity, respect for others, and a healthy lifestyle. And there's the rub...
...they're encouraging the kids to watch films such as, "Super Size Me" to encourage them to understand how unhealthy diets make for unhealthy bodies.

Before the class started, Impus Major already wouldn't eat KFC (made him sick once), McDonald's (ditto), Burger King ("It sucks"), or Taco Bell ("It sucks worse than Burger King"). In fact, his daily diet was usually a couple of whole grain waffles with Nutella, around half a dozen fruits and vegetables, some fruit juice, some milk, some beef jerky, a Marie Callendar's, a Lean Cuisine, and a home-cooked meal by a man who spent 13 years cooking healthy meals for his freakishly health-conscious mother. In short, I've only met ONE person with a healthier diet than Impus Major, and that was my mother.

So of course they HAD to start a section on, "Just because you look healthy doesn't mean you are healthy." To my uber-hypochondriac teenage son. Thanks SO much!

This morning he was in near tears, saying that he thought he was one of "those people" and he was going to end up really really sick and unhealthy. Fortunately, he's been keeping a food log this week including calories and grams of sugar, and I keep sodas in the house for the kids' game (Impus Major won't touch them). So I got to show him that a single can of Coke had more grams of sugar than he ate in a day. And I pointed out that some people drank 4-6 cans of Coke a day. And (hopefully no offense to people here who do that) I pointed out that those were the kinds of people the video was talking about. And that finally got him to calm down.

But seriously. Did we learn nothing from the 50's? Driving an entire society by fear may be profitable and may lead to obedient sheeple, but it really does lead to some serious dysfunctionality.

OK, back to your normal safe, politics-free zone...


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>_<

Spoiler:
Funny enough, I used to be one of those people when it came to soda. I'd easily finish off most of a 12-pack each day, five or six of those being at work then the rest steadily through the night as I came home, sat in front of my computer, and spent the rest of the evening chatting, foruming, or gaming.

I still am pretty bad about coming home and doing very little, though I go on walks when I have time and the weather's amenable, but on doctor's orders I've pretty much completely cut the soda, minus a half-glass of ginger ale before bed (my nighttime meds sometimes cause nausea, the ginger ale helps immensely) and occasionally Sprite. Otherwise, it's a lot of tea, sometimes Hawaiian Punch-type drinks.

My eating habits aren't anywhere near as thorough as his, but I'm not eating fast-food every night anymore either. My big issue is more portions than content - I tend to eat too much at once if I don't make myself stop, and I snack frequently if I don't force myself not to. I just really like food. =)


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Orthos wrote:
I just really like food. =)

You and me both, brother! :-P


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I swear, I think TacticsLion has a bot running that favorites all posts in certain threads. No man can favorite that many posts that quickly!


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He's in the Matrix :-)


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I want to enjoy MMOs... It's just that for some reason I can never find a decent group to RP with, or the mechanics are repetitive, or something else drives me insane and I have to leave...


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The Doomkitten wrote:
I want to enjoy MMOs... It's just that for some reason I can never find a decent group to RP with, or the mechanics are repetitive, or something else drives me insane and I have to leave...

Yeah, this and the cost are why despite loving the lore and mostly enjoying some of the play (less so the end-game endless cycle of daily quests-raid-grind) Ebon and I eventually dropped our WoW subscriptions. And it's one of the reasons we keep coming back to NWN1.

Granted, there are times that game makes us want to tear our hair out, too. Including a few unfortunate situations recently.


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I... you...

I give up.

I learned this stuff in 5th, 6th, 7th, and now Algebra 1.

I was assuming that the new stuff you were teaching was supposed to be an advanced form of stuff I already learned, but it was just an introduction.

I...

I...

...

Anybody else want to go write a strongly worded letter (I don't have that much evil in me, alas) to the board of education?


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Orthos wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
It's probably because I haven't googled it or anything but the vibe I get from the name Undertale is some sort of weird adult version of children cartoon animals.

Nah.

It's more Earthbound + Moral Choice System + pseudo-NewGame+ (you don't keep your old stats/gear, but the game remembers choices you made in prior playthroughs and it sometimes changes things) with a great deal of heart-wrenching, an absolutely astounding soundtrack, and a little bit of nightmare fuel thrown in.

thanks chummer. I'll check that out.


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The Doomkitten wrote:
Anybody else want to go write a strongly worded letter (I don't have that much evil in me, alas) to the board of education?

Yes. But I, too, lack the evil, and I suspect we'd be writing to different boards.

EDIT: That said, if you want to make a thread or something, like, "Help me with Algebra 1!" I'm pretty sure some of us would be willing to help, if you like.


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The Doomkitten wrote:

I... you...

I give up.

I learned this stuff in 5th, 6th, 7th, and now Algebra 1.

I was assuming that the new stuff you were teaching was supposed to be an advanced form of stuff I already learned, but it was just an introduction.

I...

I...

...

Anybody else want to go write a strongly worded letter (I don't have that much evil in me, alas) to the board of education?

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but my advice (considering my feelings on math, you should take with a grain of salt) is to take the easy a if it's possible, because when the new/advanced/challenging/"real" stuff comes in, you'll need the GPA cushion.

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