
Bitter Thorn |

Aberzombie wrote:Positive waves AZ! Never easy when your child is ill.Well, the X-ray confirmed the boy has a touch of pneumonia. So they've given him some medicine through his IV. His fever is still doing the yo-yo, and his heart rate is still high. They've been alternating Motrin and Tylenol. Not sure if they'll keep him another night or not. Won't be surprised if they do.
If they keep him the wife is gonna stay so I can brin her parents to the airport tomorrow.
Either way, it's gonna be a long couple of days, methinks.
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Bitter Thorn |

Drejk wrote:Considering in 1990 I was five... ;) Yeah my dad introduced me to Metallica when I was in junior high (so around 1996-9, somewhere in there) and it just went from there.Orthos wrote:I must admit that I discovered lots of music from eighties in this millenium, including Iron Maiden... I wasn't very musical person in the late eighties or ninties.Freehold DM wrote:Thank god someone got it. Scint was making me feel old.Not familiar with them either. Due to age as well, but moreso genre. None of those are really my thing.
When I think late 80s/early 90s music I think more along these lines.
I did not know you were only a couple of years older than my daughter.

Scintillae |

I just don't get why people don't often consider healing to be evil. I have far too much fun with stressing the fact that these people know how to fix a great deal of problems with the human/elven/halfling/orc/care bear body. So why wouldn't they be able to break it just as easily, all the while wearing the doctor's coat to deflect suspicion?

Bitter Thorn |

Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.

Drejk |

GURPS necromancer has to learn healing before learning more complex necromantic spells. Animating zombies requires knowledge of Lend Vitality (spell that allows granting temporary hit points and is precursor to spells that actually heal wounds). Spells that steal stamina or health cannot be learned until one can actually heal.

Orthos |

On the surface they make sense - Positive energy is the energy of creation and growth (which is why it still can kill you if you get too much of it - explode from too much energy or insta-cancer) and negative the energy of destruction and decay.
Then you get the issue of "Undead are powered - animated - made pseudo-alive by negative energy". Which really kind of doesn't make sense from that basic assumption of concepts.
I did like that in 3.5's Truenaming, you got the Inflict incantation for free with each Cure one - you just spoke the truename in reverse.

Orthos |

Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.

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Ragadolf wrote:Huh, I hadn't thought about it in years, but your correct.
Way back then, all of the healing spells were in Necromancy, along with all of the death and animation spells.Wait, so what exactly is/was the justification for moving all the healing over to conjuration? I mean, I have no problem with the Necro book being all death spells, but how is healing conjuration?
I missed a leap of logic somewhere? ;P
Because Necromancy is Evil, is the best I've gotten. So all the "Good" stuff got moved out of it and into something that wouldn't look so bad.
I imagine the justification was more along the line of "Because you're Conjuring up positive energy to heal someone with". But if Cure spells are Conjuring positive energy, then why aren't Inflict spells Conjuring negative energy? The two work exactly the same, just with two different elements. "Because Necromancy is Evil, duh, and Evil characters cast Inflict spells" is, again, the only justification I've gotten.
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Pretty much this.
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I just don't get why people don't often consider healing to be evil. I have far too much fun with stressing the fact that these people know how to fix a great deal of problems with the human/elven/halfling/orc/care bear body. So why wouldn't they be able to break it just as easily, all the while wearing the doctor's coat to deflect suspicion?
Ask my Ravenloft players about "The Surgeon" :)
Of course, I went with Alchemist (Vivisectionist), which just made it all the more fun.

Bitter Thorn |

I'll skip the some 1600+/- messages I missed since my last visit.
Anyways, the news...
I will not make Gen Con this year. Bummer. There was at least two super dungeons I wanted to buy and a few more RPGs, art works, replica weapons, etc. that will wait until next year. I wanted to go again but given money constraints and what's going to happen in a week...
I'm leaving Northwest Indiana and heading back to Vegas and my old home. The job market didn't work for me out here so I'll be back to my old job in two or three weeks. But I leave Hoosier-ville with a PT Cruiser and a larger than normal scrapbook of memories.
Good luck!

Freehold DM |

Drejk wrote:Boiling to mush is great way of serving beans and peas... But brussel sprouts? I am unconvinced...I actually like my vegetables rather under-cooked. For example, people seem enamored with my green beans. The secret? I boil them for 2 minutes. That is all. They are crisp like raw green beans, but hot.
Mmmmm.....

Bitter Thorn |

Drejk wrote:Boiling to mush is great way of serving beans and peas... But brussel sprouts? I am unconvinced...I actually like my vegetables rather under-cooked. For example, people seem enamored with my green beans. The secret? I boil them for 2 minutes. That is all. They are crisp like raw green beans, but hot.
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Bitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
CH is the PBP king! I'll help all I can. You can look at my Into page here for some tips as well as CH's Ravenloft Game

Orthos |

Orthos wrote:CH is the PBP king! I'll help all I can. You can look at my Into page here for some tips as well as CH's Ravenloft GameBitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
Hey you use a similar character questionnaire to me =D mine just goes 5-4-3-2-1 instead of 3-2-1-1-1.

Ragadolf |
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Celestial Healer wrote:Mmmmm.....Drejk wrote:Boiling to mush is great way of serving beans and peas... But brussel sprouts? I am unconvinced...I actually like my vegetables rather under-cooked. For example, people seem enamored with my green beans. The secret? I boil them for 2 minutes. That is all. They are crisp like raw green beans, but hot.
Yes! This! :)
I actually like the chinese-style of cooking vegetables, searing them in a hot pan so they are 'cooked', but still mostly crispy.
If I HAVE to eat veggies, I prefer them that way. ;P

Klaus van der Kroft |

Orthos wrote:Ragadolf wrote:Huh, I hadn't thought about it in years, but your correct.
Way back then, all of the healing spells were in Necromancy, along with all of the death and animation spells.Wait, so what exactly is/was the justification for moving all the healing over to conjuration? I mean, I have no problem with the Necro book being all death spells, but how is healing conjuration?
I missed a leap of logic somewhere? ;P
Because Necromancy is Evil, is the best I've gotten. So all the "Good" stuff got moved out of it and into something that wouldn't look so bad.
I imagine the justification was more along the line of "Because you're Conjuring up positive energy to heal someone with". But if Cure spells are Conjuring positive energy, then why aren't Inflict spells Conjuring negative energy? The two work exactly the same, just with two different elements. "Because Necromancy is Evil, duh, and Evil characters cast Inflict spells" is, again, the only justification I've gotten.
^^
Pretty much this.
Aye, I have the same quibbles. I can accept the justification of conjuring positive energy to heal, but the lack of reciprocity with Inflict spells is uncomfortably asymetrical.

DSXMachina |

Orthos wrote:CH is the PBP king! I'll help all I can. You can look at my Into page here for some tips as well as CH's Ravenloft GameBitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
I can offer some advise too, I have a couple of pbp games played under my belt. Of course it's not GM'ing (I've yet to GM a PF pbp).

Orent Jarmek |

Tordek Rumnaheim wrote:Hey you use a similar character questionnaire to me =D mine just goes 5-4-3-2-1 instead of 3-2-1-1-1.Orthos wrote:CH is the PBP king! I'll help all I can. You can look at my Into page here for some tips as well as CH's Ravenloft GameBitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
Actually, I stole it from you. I first encountered it when I made this character and liked it so much that I incorporated into my games. Thank you! I only changed it to my numbers because I struggled a bit with coming up with 5 things at times.

Orthos |

Orthos wrote:Actually, I stole it from you. I first encountered it when I made this character and liked it so much that I incorporated into my games. Thank you! I only changed it to my numbers because I struggled a bit with coming up with 5 things at times.Tordek Rumnaheim wrote:Hey you use a similar character questionnaire to me =D mine just goes 5-4-3-2-1 instead of 3-2-1-1-1.Orthos wrote:CH is the PBP king! I'll help all I can. You can look at my Into page here for some tips as well as CH's Ravenloft GameBitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
Ah! I got it from someone here on the forum years ago, when someone asked how they incorporate players into the group.
I just allow players to submit incomplete questionnaires and fill them out as the character develops a bit =)

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There's a long-winded thread about PbP tips and tricks >HERE< that has some good ideas.

Orthos |

Thanks Patrick =)
@CH and other interested folks: I'm putting together a small info pack (or more accurately, trying to keep it small while still containing all necessary info >_< ) that'll give you guys a bit of basic knowledge about my homebrew world, races, pantheon, and such like so I'm not dumping you in completely blind. Once that's done and I have the basics of the game's start set up, I'll be ready to begin. I estimate the end of this week at the latest, likely sooner.
This is the first time I've gamed using my homebrew setting with anyone who doesn't have access to the forums where we store all our gaming info stuff. So setting it up on GoogleDocs so you guys won't have to register at a brand-new place and go through hoops getting proper forum-viewing permissions is taking a little while. Apologies for the delay.

Scintillae |

aeglos |

aeglos wrote:Celestial Healer wrote:do tell pleaseaeglos wrote:Celestial Healer wrote:Ragadolf wrote:Have you ever had well-prepared brussels sprouts? I hated them until I ate them cooked by somebody who knew what they were doing.I'm sorry to hear that.
If you all enjoy them, I'm happy for you.
But I strongly maintain that while brussel sprouts may or may not be the source of all evil,... they are most certainly not food! ;P
At least, not in my house,.... ;P
slightly roast with onions and bacon, deglazed with white wine, add vegetable stock and cook a bit, make a sauce out of the liquid
mmmmmm
Precisely!
I also have a recipe for maple-glazed brussels sprouts, which is a decided North American take on them. As a result, I knew adding a bit of sweetness would work.
Actually, it can be any combination of carrots, brussels sprouts, parsnips, and turnips.
Cut veggies into large chunks (for brussels sprouts, cut in half). Toss in 1 tablespoon melted butter (about 15 grams) [use twice as much butter if you are making a lot].
Roast at 375 F (190 celsius) for about 30 minutes, or until they are starting to brown. Drizzle them with 1 tablespoon (15 mL) maple syrup [use twice as much if you are making a lot] and roast for another 5 minutes.
The original recipe called for a little bit of ginger "straws" (ginger cut into extremely thin matchstick-like pieces) to be roasted with the veggies and a bit of ground ginger stirred into the syrup. This adds a nice zip to the flavor, but if you want to keep it simple, you can skip the ginger.
thank you CH
roast means in the oven I guess?

Orthos |

Interesting character questionnaires. I prefer the long winded ones from 3.0 personally, but I will give this a try in an upcoming game.
I have a long one too - one of my players posted a 100-question survey - but I don't require it like I do the 5-question one. My players tend to come up with a very basic concept when they start play, and let the character develop and flesh out more as they're played, so at the beginning many of those questions simply don't have answers yet.

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Celestial Healer wrote:aeglos wrote:Celestial Healer wrote:do tell pleaseaeglos wrote:Celestial Healer wrote:Ragadolf wrote:Have you ever had well-prepared brussels sprouts? I hated them until I ate them cooked by somebody who knew what they were doing.I'm sorry to hear that.
If you all enjoy them, I'm happy for you.
But I strongly maintain that while brussel sprouts may or may not be the source of all evil,... they are most certainly not food! ;P
At least, not in my house,.... ;P
slightly roast with onions and bacon, deglazed with white wine, add vegetable stock and cook a bit, make a sauce out of the liquid
mmmmmm
Precisely!
I also have a recipe for maple-glazed brussels sprouts, which is a decided North American take on them. As a result, I knew adding a bit of sweetness would work.
Actually, it can be any combination of carrots, brussels sprouts, parsnips, and turnips.
Cut veggies into large chunks (for brussels sprouts, cut in half). Toss in 1 tablespoon melted butter (about 15 grams) [use twice as much butter if you are making a lot].
Roast at 375 F (190 celsius) for about 30 minutes, or until they are starting to brown. Drizzle them with 1 tablespoon (15 mL) maple syrup [use twice as much if you are making a lot] and roast for another 5 minutes.
The original recipe called for a little bit of ginger "straws" (ginger cut into extremely thin matchstick-like pieces) to be roasted with the veggies and a bit of ground ginger stirred into the syrup. This adds a nice zip to the flavor, but if you want to keep it simple, you can skip the ginger.
thank you CH
roast means in the oven I guess?
Yes. For some reason, American recipes use "bake" for breads, cakes, and pastries, and "roast" for meats and vegetables, but the instruction is the same: put it in the oven at the noted temperature for the noted duration.

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:Interesting character questionnaires. I prefer the long winded ones from 3.0 personally, but I will give this a try in an upcoming game.I have a long one too - one of my players posted a 100-question survey - but I don't require it like I do the 5-question one. My players tend to come up with a very basic concept when they start play, and let the character develop and flesh out more as they're played, so at the beginning many of those questions simply don't have answers yet.
unfortunately I it depends on the group. The old Thursday night gaming group needed that questionnaire so the dm could figure out what we were going to do/how we were going to meet up, the kingmaker group was split on the idea vociferously, the Darklight Sisterhood group would probably not even be remotely interested. It's something I'm trying to come up with a serious system for for my homebrew. As for necromancy, I've turned it into nigrimancy in my game and treat it as a collection of curses,many of which are evil to do to someone else that is sentient but neutral to do to oneself or most other places. No positive/negative energy plane thus far and I doubt I will ever have one.

Orthos |
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I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.

Freehold DM |

I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.
very similar to my view/setting. It's not evil to make yourself into a mummy. It's evil to twirl your mustache while having your minions hold someone down while you turn them into one.

Orthos |

Orthos wrote:very similar to my view/setting. It's not evil to make yourself into a mummy. It's evil to twirl your mustache while having your minions hold someone down while you turn them into one.I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.
So... is it neutral if you forgo the mustache twirl?

Freehold DM |
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Freehold DM wrote:So... is it neutral if you forgo the mustache twirl?Orthos wrote:very similar to my view/setting. It's not evil to make yourself into a mummy. It's evil to twirl your mustache while having your minions hold someone down while you turn them into one.I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.
That's not just evil, it's insane. A clean shaven villain? What's next, a black sheriff?

Scintillae |
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Orthos wrote:That's not Judy evil, it's insane. A clean shaven villain? What's next, a black sheriff?Freehold DM wrote:So... is it neutral if you forgo the mustache twirl?Orthos wrote:very similar to my view/setting. It's not evil to make yourself into a mummy. It's evil to twirl your mustache while having your minions hold someone down while you turn them into one.I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.
But...I wanna be a villain...

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:But...I wanna be a villain...Orthos wrote:That's not Judy evil, it's insane. A clean shaven villain? What's next, a black sheriff?Freehold DM wrote:So... is it neutral if you forgo the mustache twirl?Orthos wrote:very similar to my view/setting. It's not evil to make yourself into a mummy. It's evil to twirl your mustache while having your minions hold someone down while you turn them into one.I honestly haven't messed with it in my world, or really thought about it all that much.
Re: Necromancy: I want there to be both options, really - the fantasy Persian empire I have is supposed to be heavily necromancy-favorable, with their Emperors becoming mummies and advising successor Emperors after death, and regularly animating undead as servants, soldiers, or other things. Meanwhile the Naga culture I have is supposed to be very heavy on ancestor-worship, communion with spirits, and interaction with souls and the dead, but very much not evil.
hands scint a bottle of rogaine

Drejk |

Freehold DM wrote:That's not Judy evil, it's insane. A clean shaven villain? What's next, a black sheriff?But...I wanna be a villain...
No shaving of any kind for you then.
*looks in the mirror* Now, I wonder if my beard still in villainous category or is it large enough to fall under friendly supporting cast category (probably a wise but cranky and not exactly right in his mind hermit as I lack the bulk, strength and voice to be boisterous bruiser like Brian Blessed)? Things were simpler when I had just a goatee...

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:Orthos wrote:Okay, I have my basic summary for my potential PbP written up. Looks like I'm doing this thing.
No promises on how long until I'll get it up and ready to run, but if there are any FAWTLfolk who might be willing to poke into a new game, do speak up =) Scint's already expressed an interest off-forum so that's one at least.
I'm interested, but I've never done any online gaming so I'm kind of clueless.
I also might be traveling for a job in a month or two.
S'ok, I'm still not 100% on how the forum's system works, so I'll be winging it a little at first and relying on more experienced PbPers like Tordek to give me a few pointers =)
So that's Scint, Tordek, CH, Shiny, and BT, unless I missed someone =) Think I can probably take one more player max.
If you get a couple more players I'm OK with being bumped. I don't know how long these things tend to run, but if I travel for a job I'm MIA for the duration.
What kind of time commitment is involved? Are we all supposed to log on at preset times?