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Freehold DM wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that.

If you all enjoy them, I'm happy for you.

But I strongly maintain that while brussel sprouts may or may not be the source of all evil,... they are most certainly not food! ;P

At least, not in my house,.... ;P

Have you ever had well-prepared brussels sprouts? I hated them until I ate them cooked by somebody who knew what they were doing.

Wee cabbages are delicious! You don't have to do much with them beyond a light (but thorough) steaming and a little drizzled butter. Of course, you must select young, tender sprouts, not the ancient croquet balls.

But the pineapple/maple you mention sounds intriguing, especially with a hint of anchovy paste.

Nope, do it the British way. Get the old yellow-y ones, that are slightly peeling and have brown dotted bits.

Then boil then in normal water until you get rid of any remnants of taste and turn the consistency to mush. Then serve....

IIRC, that was how I ate it in elementary school and I loved it. It looked so awful but tasted so good.

*Blink, Blink*

BLeeeaaah!

I mean, Id be willing to try it either of the other ways. (I'll try almost anything once, twice if I like it. That's what gets me in so much trouble!)
But,... Boiled to mush?!?

Bleeeaaah!
;P


Boiling to mush is great way of serving beans and peas... But brussel sprouts? I am unconvinced...


Ragadolf, we would be happy if you weren't trying being naked. And we'll be even happier if you don't like it enough to try it second time...


LoL!

Yes, yes you would,... (?) ;P


So how many PCs do I have to kill before the feeling bad about it goes away? I'm guessing more than one.


Drejk wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I also met a woman who was easily 6'6".
Wow!
She was dressed to kill too, but I could tell it was a struggle for her to find clothes. Her makeup was AWESOME, I should have told her as much.
I reckon it's a challenge to find a little black dress when one is 6'6".
Actually for someone 6'6" every dress will be rather on little side...

:)

196 missed

F%!!!

My weekend sucked dog ass!

It started with the Fellnight group getting canceled at the last minute due to child care falling through for the DM, and it went way way downhill from there.


Scintillae wrote:
So how many PCs do I have to kill before the feeling bad about it goes away? I'm guessing more than one.

I've killed more than a few since I started DMing in the 70's and I still feel bad when it happens, but if players know you will never kill them it changes the game in ways you can feel it.

It's like watching a movie and knowing that all the good guys live because you've seen the sequel.


Drejk wrote:

And I am back.

Successful birthday party: coming back home with backpack full of goodies!

Outstanding!


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
I wish my boss wasn't so g!~#~$n nice. Then it would be easier for me to tell her that I'm quitting. Anxiety FTW.

Bummer....


Treppa wrote:
Sorry, Whovians. :(

That sucks! :(


lynora wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
Get better Charlie!
Get better!
An another well wishes, get better soon.
+1. It's hard on the whole family when little ones are sick. i hope he gets better soon and you can all get some rest.

+2!


Aberzombie wrote:

Mrgh. Still in the hospital. They're pretty sure he's got some kind of viral infection. Still getting high fever, but Motrin takes care of that. His heart rate is still higher than it should be, though.

They took X-ray of his chest to check his heart and lungs. And they want to give it until 24 hours after his first symptoms (which would be later tonight), to see if his blood culture shows anything new.

If nothing bad pops up from all that, they may let us take him home. I'm hoping that's the case because he really wants to go home.

:(


BT, I'm sorry your weekend was horrible. Here's hoping the next is better. Also, Drejk, happy belated birthday! I can't believe I didn't wish you that earlier!!


*temporarily pops up from his A Memory of Light Reading*

Everyone still here? Good.

And go Charlie! Kick that pneumonia in the butt and make it fly right out of ya!


Orthos wrote:
What's your new lizardfolk like Icy?

I haven't nailed ideas down, but I wanted to make at least one sub-species that has gecko traits and another that look more like chameleons with abilities associated with them. Seems the default lizardfolk are partially aquatic and really look like iguanas for the most part. I'll need to come up with a setting-specific name for all the different lizardfolk variants, though.


Oh, should add Frilled Lizard tribes there somewhere.


As for cultures, that's something I'll get to a bit later, after distributing them across the lands...


And I just had the pleasure of running into someone who thinks all necromancy is evil again...

*Hits head on desk*

Scarab Sages

Good morning FAWTLY Folk! Hopefully it will be Happy Tuesday.

Scarab Sages

Charlie seems to be improving. They had to pull his IV last night because it was leaking, so they gave him antibiotics orally instead. Then his fever spiked a bit (only 101 this time), but he drank nearly an entire sippy cup of water. This morning his mother tells me he ate a pack of fruit snacks, then asked for bacon! I'll be going over in a little while. Hopefully we'll be able to bring him home today.


LOL @ the bacon comment, like father like son.

Good to hear positive things, my thoughts are with Charlie (& your whole family AZ)


Icyshadow wrote:

And I just had the pleasure of running into someone who thinks all necromancy is evil again...

*Hits head on desk*

Did they call you a hipster too for daring to play a Good necromancer? That's essentially the rant I got from someone on these forums on that subject. At least, that's my best interpretation of it - they never did answer my question about what the term they used meant.

EDIT: Found the exact quote: "dude stop coming up with "the exception has become the rule" examples just because you want to be alt." Anyone ever seen that term defined in that context?


Orthos wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:

And I just had the pleasure of running into someone who thinks all necromancy is evil again...

*Hits head on desk*

Did they call you a hipster too for daring to play a Good necromancer? That's essentially the rant I got from someone on these forums on that subject. At least, the that's my best interpretation of it - they never did answer my question about what the term they used meant.

EDIT: Found the exact quote: "dude stop coming up with "the exception has become the rule" examples just because you want to be alt." Anyone ever seen that term defined in that context?

seen it before. The guy who insists on playing the good necromancer, the guy who insists on playing the samurai/ninja because they are inherently superior to the fighter/rogue, etc.

When it comes to something like good necromancers, it's depends on the motivation of the person playing the character. Some people are doing it just to be special snowflake annoying. Others do it because there is a genuine character concept. The player and the dm have to sit down together and come up with some ground rules or, if those are too cloying, common ground to work on. Second ed rules supported a good necromancer in theory, I can honestly say no one's attempted to bring it up to me in years.


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The snow can go away now.


Scintillae wrote:
The snow can go away now.

heresy.


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Two blizzards in a week is quite enough, thanks.


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Yeah, count me on the side of "why is all necromancy evil?" Life and death are two sides of the same coin, and it confuses me that the cure spells aren't necromancy for that reason.

I mean, yeah, reanimating Grandma is bad form, but not all necromancers do that.


Scintillae wrote:
The snow can go away now.

The snow I can live with, it's the ice I'm getting fed up with.


Kajehase hates me, apparently ;__;


Yeah, ice and snow are great if you don't have a driver's license.


Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:

And I just had the pleasure of running into someone who thinks all necromancy is evil again...

*Hits head on desk*

Did they call you a hipster too for daring to play a Good necromancer? That's essentially the rant I got from someone on these forums on that subject. At least, the that's my best interpretation of it - they never did answer my question about what the term they used meant.

EDIT: Found the exact quote: "dude stop coming up with "the exception has become the rule" examples just because you want to be alt." Anyone ever seen that term defined in that context?

seen it before. The guy who insists on playing the good necromancer, the guy who insists on playing the samurai/ninja because they are inherently superior to the fighter/rogue, etc.

When it comes to something like good necromancers, it's depends on the motivation of the person playing the character. Some people are doing it just to be special snowflake annoying. Others do it because there is a genuine character concept. The player and the dm have to sit down together and come up with some ground rules or, if those are too cloying, common ground to work on. Second ed rules supported a good necromancer in theory, I can honestly say no one's attempted to bring it up to me in years.

The character in question in my case was a Medium. She actually used/uses Divination as much as Necromancy, since all the good "talk with things" spells are in Div, and was always extremely respectful to the dead (often more so than the living), using speak with dead and similar effects to actually ask permission before animating a corpse, and even then only in dire circumstances (never "Welp need another cannon fodder/meat shield, let's reanimate the dude we just killed") and with severe apologies for "interrupting your rest".

The original version was a Necromancer Wizard, but I have her on the back-burner to play again as a Bones/Haunted Oracle.


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I need to play a crazy cat lady necromancer. "Come say hi to Mr. Bones, Skully, Tibia, Nibbles..."


Icyshadow wrote:
Kajehase hates me, apparently ;__;

Nah. Shadows are fine.


Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:

And I just had the pleasure of running into someone who thinks all necromancy is evil again...

*Hits head on desk*

Did they call you a hipster too for daring to play a Good necromancer? That's essentially the rant I got from someone on these forums on that subject. At least, the that's my best interpretation of it - they never did answer my question about what the term they used meant.

EDIT: Found the exact quote: "dude stop coming up with "the exception has become the rule" examples just because you want to be alt." Anyone ever seen that term defined in that context?

seen it before. The guy who insists on playing the good necromancer, the guy who insists on playing the samurai/ninja because they are inherently superior to the fighter/rogue, etc.

When it comes to something like good necromancers, it's depends on the motivation of the person playing the character. Some people are doing it just to be special snowflake annoying. Others do it because there is a genuine character concept. The player and the dm have to sit down together and come up with some ground rules or, if those are too cloying, common ground to work on. Second ed rules supported a good necromancer in theory, I can honestly say no one's attempted to bring it up to me in years.

The character in question in my case was a Medium. She actually used/uses Divination as much as Necromancy, since all the good "talk with things" spells are in Div, and was always extremely respectful to the dead (often more so than the living), using speak with dead and similar effects to actually ask permission before animating a corpse, and even then only in dire circumstances (never "Welp need another cannon fodder/meat shield, let's reanimate the dude we just killed") and with severe apologies for "interrupting your rest".

The original version was a Necromancer Wizard, but I have her on the back-burner to play again...

My Necromancer character always cared more about the side of necromancy focusing on souls.

I could go into actual details on her whole story and such, but I don't have the mental power for that right now.

She's a Half-Fiend (Half-Devil to be exact) Elf Necromancer, who's alignment is somewhere between Chaotic Good and Chaotic Neutral.

Silver Crusade

DSXMachina wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that.

If you all enjoy them, I'm happy for you.

But I strongly maintain that while brussel sprouts may or may not be the source of all evil,... they are most certainly not food! ;P

At least, not in my house,.... ;P

Have you ever had well-prepared brussels sprouts? I hated them until I ate them cooked by somebody who knew what they were doing.

Wee cabbages are delicious! You don't have to do much with them beyond a light (but thorough) steaming and a little drizzled butter. Of course, you must select young, tender sprouts, not the ancient croquet balls.

But the pineapple/maple you mention sounds intriguing, especially with a hint of anchovy paste.

Nope, do it the British way. Get the old yellow-y ones, that are slightly peeling and have brown dotted bits.

Then boil then in normal water until you get rid of any remnants of taste and turn the consistency to mush. Then serve....

You will love this, DSX... I was reading my book on British cooking, and the forward (written by someone other than the main author of the cookbook) was laying out all of the hilarious stereotypes about British food (which the cookbook author then goes on to debunk). One of my favorite bits was the author of the forward talking about being invited to a dinner party of traditional English fare. "Fortunately, we only set the date for the dinner two weeks in advance, so the hostess would not have time to give the vegetables a full English boil." Hilarious.

(The vegetable recipes in the book are all fantastic, I should point out.)


Brilliant. :P

Yeah, British cooking has got exponentially better in the past decade (as has beer selections). One of the few good things with reality TV & cookery programmes. In fact I knew I French couple who came over here last year & just had to buy a British cook-book.


Yay, dice rolling thread doesn't hate me!


I should probably get a start on shoveling. I'm not sure I'll be able to make it to work tonight, but I should at least try.


Watch me finish right as the snowplow comes by. Again.


Scintillae wrote:
Yeah, ice and snow are great if you don't have a driver's license.

Unless you fall over.... or have to get public transport... or have to leave the house.

Silver Crusade

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Drejk wrote:
Boiling to mush is great way of serving beans and peas... But brussel sprouts? I am unconvinced...

I actually like my vegetables rather under-cooked. For example, people seem enamored with my green beans. The secret? I boil them for 2 minutes. That is all. They are crisp like raw green beans, but hot.


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DSXMachina wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Yeah, ice and snow are great if you don't have a driver's license.
Unless you fall over.... or have to get public transport... or have to leave the house.

True. I wish my town had better public transit. I honestly hate driving.

Silver Crusade

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Scintillae wrote:

Yeah, count me on the side of "why is all necromancy evil?" Life and death are two sides of the same coin, and it confuses me that the cure spells aren't necromancy for that reason.

I mean, yeah, reanimating Grandma is bad form, but not all necromancers do that.

The better question to me is, why did all the spells that deal with "life" get shoved into Conjuration? When you move the "life" spells out of Necromancy, all that is left is the "death" ones.

I think that is why, as FHDM pointed out, good necromancy worked better in 2e. They still had all the healing spells in the Necromancy school.

I think it can still be done in 3e/PF, but it takes more effort and creativity to pull it off than it did back then.

Silver Crusade

Morning, all. What did I miss?


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Yeah, count me on the side of "why is all necromancy evil?" Life and death are two sides of the same coin, and it confuses me that the cure spells aren't necromancy for that reason.

I mean, yeah, reanimating Grandma is bad form, but not all necromancers do that.

The better question to me is, why did all the spells that deal with "life" get shoved into Conjuration? When you move the "life" spells out of Necromancy, all that is left is the "death" ones.

I think that is why, as FHDM pointed out, good necromancy worked better in 2e. They still had all the healing spells in the Necromancy school.

I think it can still be done in 3e/PF, but it takes more effort and creativity to pull it off than it did back then.

Actually, I should make this a canon thing in my homebrew setting.


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Huh, I hadn't thought about it in years, but your correct.
Way back then, all of the healing spells were in Necromancy, along with all of the death and animation spells.

Wait, so what exactly is/was the justification for moving all the healing over to conjuration? I mean, I have no problem with the Necro book being all death spells, but how is healing conjuration?

I missed a leap of logic somewhere? ;P


Icyshadow wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Yeah, count me on the side of "why is all necromancy evil?" Life and death are two sides of the same coin, and it confuses me that the cure spells aren't necromancy for that reason.

I mean, yeah, reanimating Grandma is bad form, but not all necromancers do that.

The better question to me is, why did all the spells that deal with "life" get shoved into Conjuration? When you move the "life" spells out of Necromancy, all that is left is the "death" ones.

I think that is why, as FHDM pointed out, good necromancy worked better in 2e. They still had all the healing spells in the Necromancy school.

I think it can still be done in 3e/PF, but it takes more effort and creativity to pull it off than it did back then.

Actually, I should make this a canon thing in my homebrew setting.

I already do, so I recommend it to anyone else looking at the idea. I've even already listed it among the houserules for the PbP I'm putting together: "Cure and other healing spells have been moved to the Necromancy school."


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Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
oh my god i need a ratfolk alchemist and an int-dumped ratfolk fighter lackey
ROTFL!!!!

+1


Ragadolf wrote:

Huh, I hadn't thought about it in years, but your correct.

Way back then, all of the healing spells were in Necromancy, along with all of the death and animation spells.

Wait, so what exactly is/was the justification for moving all the healing over to conjuration? I mean, I have no problem with the Necro book being all death spells, but how is healing conjuration?

I missed a leap of logic somewhere? ;P

Because Necromancy is Evil, is the best I've gotten. So all the "Good" stuff got moved out of it and into something that wouldn't look so bad.

I imagine the justification was more along the line of "Because you're Conjuring up positive energy to heal someone with". But if Cure spells are Conjuring positive energy, then why aren't Inflict spells Conjuring negative energy? The two work exactly the same, just with two different elements. "Because Necromancy is Evil, duh, and Evil characters cast Inflict spells" is, again, the only justification I've gotten.


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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
oh my god i need a ratfolk alchemist and an int-dumped ratfolk fighter lackey
ROTFL!!!!
+1

*Sigh*

I miss Animaniacs :)

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