Charge and Lightning Stance


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Dark Archive

Hey,

I apologize if this is a repeated or newbish question, but I didn't see it when I used the Search function. Does Lightning Stance take effect when a character charges? By my reading,the fact that a charge is a full round action could go either way in terms of the "multiple moves," so I wanted to double-check.

Thanks,
Trei

Dark Archive

I had not thought about this yet, interesting:

For quick reff, here is the feat in question:

From the PRD

Quote:

Lightning Stance (Combat)

The speed at which you move makes it nearly impossible for opponents to strike you.

Prerequisites: Dex 17, Dodge, Wind Stance, base attack bonus +11.

Benefit: If you take two actions to move or a withdraw action in a turn, you gain 50% concealment for 1 round.

Hard to say. I think that I would allow it in my game. You have to have spent the feats to get there, have a good Dex, and a good BAB, I think that it would not be overpowered to allow it to work together.

Dark Archive

Yea, it was an idea I was wondering about while working on a Mobile variant Fighter.


By a strict reading of the rules, it looks like not. However, it doesn't seem an entirely unreasonable interpretation of the concept. I'd say try it out and see if it seems unbalanced.

Scarab Sages

I would say no, since the feat in question seems like it was designed to not be used with attacks :p

Grand Lodge

This falls back on the fact that Charge is not a double move, it is a "special" full-round action. the fact that you happen to move twice the normal move is not relevant since you are not taking two move actions. Unfortunately, you do not get the benefits of Lightning Stance when charging, just like you cannot Vital Strike when charging.

Dark Archive

Yea, one of the other DMs in my group has also input that he would say "no" since it seems to be built more for defense. In all honesty, it's probably for the better. At least this way I don't have to give up stat bonuses to get my fighter to 17 dex, ya? Now I just have to decide whether or not to keep Wind Stance into the projected Feat progression.

Thanks everyone for your input!

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