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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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Liquor. I'm going to drink. Maybe watch some episodes of the West Wing and read me some Pathfinder RPG. Also, drink.
I live in North Dakota; it's pretty much like the state hobby.
At one point, I saw that NH, where I live, had the highest alcohol consumption. I actually had to abandon the usual Thursday after work (which is midnight when I get out) visit to the local Uno's for a drink last night to finish my archetype instead.
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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John Bennett wrote:How's everyone going to relax this weekend?I'm going back to school! So I'll get to see my friends, enjoy the wonderful cafeteria food, and probably play some Little Big Planet!
But really, who is going to relax when the Packers vs. Bears game is on?
Go PACK go! :D
I do miss chicken patty Wednesdays at my college's cafeteria.
Packers are doing quite well aren't they? I had mentioned in another post that my sense of disbelief of finding out I was in the top 32 was only slightly more than my sense of disbelief when the Pats lost.
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Cody Coffelt RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4 aka Scipion del Ferro |
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Liquor. I'm going to drink. Maybe watch some episodes of the West Wing and read me some Pathfinder RPG. Also, drink.
I live in North Dakota; it's pretty much like the state hobby.
Mmm, drinking. My Pathfinder groups usually meeting house has a huge selection of booze. We can make about any drink you can think of. Aside from my usual martinis, I'm a cocktail guy myself. The others love to taste exotic beers but I've never acquired that pallet. I enjoy whipping up a concoction from our goods. Made a drink last time that had Sprite, 44 North, and New Amsterdam in it.
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Well, it seems that I have the most relaxing weekend planned of all of you - I'll be waking up early in the morning tomorrow to finish packing up my stuff and moving from a temporary apartment back into my townhouse after 3 months away due to a a fire. I'll also get to particpate in calming tasks such as setting up cable boxes, TVs, computers, networks, etc. and praying that the cable is turned on like it's supposed to be.
Then Sunday I'll get to do some unpacking, shopping for things we need to replace, pricing out a new desk to replace the one that broke, and catching Da Bears as they beat the Packers. Thankfully, I took Monday off work, so I will get at least one day to work on villain concepts and blow off some steam playing computer games.
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I just read through the FAQ again, because I'm so paranoid, and I realized that I wasted so many words in my entry by not just saying,
"... as the _____ ability of the same name."
Ugh! I am so mad at myself right now!
Sorry, never meant to cause paranoia... *mad cackle*, wait, what? Hmph...
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Jerall Toi RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7 aka Jatori |
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I just read through the FAQ again, because I'm so paranoid, and I realized that I wasted so many words in my entry by not just saying,
"... as the _____ ability of the same name."
Ugh! I am so mad at myself right now!
I think that quite a few of us want to make some post-submission fixes. I know that I do.
As for my weekend, I have some errands this morning. This afternoon will see some board gaming and probably pizza and/or braai to round off the night. Sunday will be spent replying to all of the e-mails that have been piling up since Tuesday.
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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Levi Miles wrote:I just read through the FAQ again, because I'm so paranoid, and I realized that I wasted so many words in my entry by not just saying,
"... as the _____ ability of the same name."
Ugh! I am so mad at myself right now!
I think that quite a few of us want to make some post-submission fixes. I know that I do.
As for my weekend, I have some errands this morning. This afternoon will see some board gaming and probably pizza and/or braai to round off the night. Sunday will be spent replying to all of the e-mails that have been piling up since Tuesday.
What is braai?
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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James Martin wrote:Mmm, drinking. My Pathfinder groups usually meeting house has a huge selection of booze. We can make about any drink you can think of. Aside from my usual martinis, I'm a cocktail guy myself. The others love to taste exotic beers but I've never acquired that pallet. I enjoy whipping up a concoction from our goods. Made a drink last time that had Sprite, 44 North, and New Amsterdam in it.Liquor. I'm going to drink. Maybe watch some episodes of the West Wing and read me some Pathfinder RPG. Also, drink.
I live in North Dakota; it's pretty much like the state hobby.
I'm usually a beer/whiskey person but I do like a martini I make in the summertime. Watermelon juice (if I can't find that then Arizona Watermelonade)+coconut rum+vodka. I call it the Tiger's Blood martini (stole the name Tiger's Blood from a slushy place that mixed the watermelon and coconut flavor).
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Jerall Toi RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7 aka Jatori |
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What is braai?
A barbeque, essentially, though with some norms and practices different from the North American equivalent. We even have a national braai day. The great wiki has an article about it.
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John Bennett wrote:What is braai?A barbeque, essentially, though with some norms and practices different from the North American equivalent. We even have a national braai day. The great wiki has an article about it.
I think the pronunciation guide from that article actually made me less sure how to say it... I'd likely default to a dragged out bry (rhymes with dry).
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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John Bennett wrote:What is braai?A barbeque, essentially, though with some norms and practices different from the North American equivalent. We even have a national braai day. The great wiki has an article about it.
Cool, thanks. I would go with the braai over pizza any day. Mmmm, now I want Mojo's, the BBQ place in Portsmouth.
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Eric Hindley wrote:I think the pronunciation guide from that article actually made me less sure how to say it... I'd likely default to a dragged out bry (rhymes with dry).That's about correct. :)
Ha, neat. That's the Canadian language advantage. I've known two people who from South Africa, at least one of whom was fluent in Afrikaans
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Eric Hindley wrote:I think the pronunciation guide from that article actually made me less sure how to say it... I'd likely default to a dragged out bry (rhymes with dry).That's about correct. :)
Ha, neat. That's the Canadian language advantage. I've known two people who from South Africa, at least one of whom was fluent in Afrikaans
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Jerry Keyes RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka surfbored |
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Jerry Keyes RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka surfbored |
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Now that the deadline has passed for round 2, I have a quick question that I wrestled with while creating my archetype...
Which is the correct format when referring to the subject of an ability? Should we be referring to the class name while describing the abilities or should the pronoun you be used?
Examples:
Thoughts?
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Artus Nemati RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 aka Tolroy |
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I chose the first option. Beyond it being the normal in most of the APG archetypes, I thought it brought more screen time to the new name.
The cleric section of the APG shows new domains, thus you would still be a cleric while selecting the domain. Same goes for bloodlines and schools.
The base class descriptions use the first example while the second example is used by orders, domains, bloodlines, and schools.
That is my take on it. This is kind of like backwards engineering a style guide.
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Artus Nemati RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 aka Tolroy |
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John Bennett wrote:What is braai?A barbeque, essentially, though with some norms and practices different from the North American equivalent. We even have a national braai day. The great wiki has an article about it.
I can't think of BBQ without thinking of this song. I'm from Florida so I disagree with some of the accusations, but it's not bad at giving a quick laugh.
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Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
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Which is the correct format when referring to the subject of an ability? Should we be referring to the class name while describing the abilities or should the pronoun you be used?
When you have questions like these, you should always look at the archetypes that have already been done and duplicate how they do it. Thus, you'd refer to it by the class, not the word "you"...and, you can also refer to it by "he" and "she"...though typical etiquette is to use the appropriate gender based on the iconic for that particular class. So, for rogues, for instance, you'd use "she" and "her" because Merisiel the iconic rogue is female. You could also just say "the rogue," etc. and you'd be fine, as well.
The few places where "you" gets used is often in wondrous item descriptive text. And sometimes in read-aloud text...though very sparingly...because you really only want to include it in dialogue with an NPC.
Hope that helps,
--Neil
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Tom Phillips Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32, 2012 Top 4 |
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. Thus, you'd refer to it by the class, not the word "you"...and, you can also refer to it by "he" and "she"...though typical etiquette is to use the appropriate gender based on the iconic for that particular class. So, for rogues, for instance, you'd use "she" and "her" because Merisiel the iconic rogue is female. You could also just say "the rogue," etc. and you'd be fine, as well.
Very interesting! I was wondering about Pathfinder's he/she usage. The Chicago Manual of Style isn't much help. It tells you to avoid using generic pronouns altogether, and if you do have to use it, the CMoS suggests for you to use the ultra-clunky "he or she".
That's unacceptable if you're trying to budget your word-count! ;-)
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Ethan Day-Jones RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Evil Space Mantis |
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Sean McGowan RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32, 2011 Top 4 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka DankeSean |
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Sue Flaherty RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 aka Gamer Girrl |
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Ethan Day-Jones wrote:So in looking back over my submission it looks like I may have swapped one of the iconic's gender. Oops! At least I used class name instead of you...Putting Valeros in a frilly pink dress could be extremely hazardous.
I think it would depend on how drunk you got him first, and how you explain it to him :) "You see, Val, this is the easiest way to get into the Calistrian Temple, you'll blend right in, and be able to question the girls all night long!"
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Ethan Day-Jones RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Evil Space Mantis |
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I always figured what an iconic wants to do on a Saturday night is his or her own business. I mean, Valeros is out there, bein beat on by all kinds of vicious beasts and inhuman horrors, from 9 to 5, Monday to Friday. He's earned his weekends!
That said, with a +3 Will save at level 10(!), the dress probably wasn't his idea in the first place. My bet is that Seoni was bored, had had a couple glasses of wine and remembered that spare suggestion scroll they had laying around...
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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Jerry Keyes RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka surfbored |
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Jerry Keyes RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka surfbored |
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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Neil Spicer wrote:
Hope that helps,
--NeilIn fact it helps quite a lot. (Can I have my entry back?) ;D
Actually the real eye-opener is that the pronoun is based on the iconic figure. I don't know why that didn't occur to me, but it makes so much sense now that you've mentioned it.
Me too.
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Cookies for all! *leaves cookies in the thread*
I have been waiting to get "official" cookies from Liz for a long time. And they are so good.
Just posting here in the guildhall for the first time, have been a little busy. I read all the other items and I was impressed with all the creativity and hard work. I feel blessed to be in such imaginative company, past and present.
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I woke up today and it was 0 degrees outside. And that is Fahrenheit not Celsius. The battery in my car was dead and I got to go outside and swap it out. That was fun.
However, I felt that swapping out a battery on a cold day outside (no garage so I waited until the temp had risen to 10 degrees out to do it) has really prepared me for the next round of voting. I managed not to swear putting in the battery (rusted bolts and tiny spaces with sharp cold edges are my enemy) so I may be good to go this week.
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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I woke up today and it was 0 degrees outside. And that is Fahrenheit not Celsius. The battery in my car was dead and I got to go outside and swap it out. That was fun.
However, I felt that swapping out a battery on a cold day outside (no garage so I waited until the temp had risen to 10 degrees out to do it) has really prepared me for the next round of voting. I managed not to swear putting in the battery (rusted bolts and tiny spaces with sharp cold edges are my enemy) so I may be good to go this week.
As I'm reading this, I'm listening to the news on TV and they are talking to some from AAA, and she is talking about how to charge your battery. It's supposed to be in the negatives tonight with the wind chill.
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Erik Freund RPG Superstar 2011 Top 16 |
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After being on these boards for about a year, I now have an avatar. I tried to find what that wasn't in use by any prominant posters.
I kinda liked not having a picture, but I gotta have some way to identify myself!
So I'm a copper dragon!
Okay, now hopefully that lil' guy will talk people into voting for me!
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So tomorrow looks to be doubly stressful - not only does round 2 voting begin, but it is also Gen Con housing day.
Time for 5 minutes of screaming at the computer to load faster while scrambling to get a decent room in the miniscule window between start of availibility and them being sold out.
I've heard it might be less of an issue this year due to the new big mega hotel. Here's hoping.
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I have read all the items, though I haven't had time to put fingers to keyboard and comment. Suffice to say, they are all great items. I will find time to post some comments at some point.
I will go on record right now, in order to make sure that I don't say anything stupid, I probably won't comment on the archetypes until after round 2 voting has closed. I will read them all, but I personally am going to refrain to posting. It seems to be far too easy to upset the voting audience by commenting on stuff, odd as it seems.
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Jerall Toi RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7 aka Jatori |
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I will go on record right now, in order to make sure that I don't say anything stupid, I probably won't comment on the archetypes until after round 2 voting has closed. I will read them all, but I personally am going to refrain to posting.
Same here.
Now to try and settle my Tuesday morning pre-reveal nerves.
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Sean McGowan RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32, 2011 Top 4 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka DankeSean |
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I have read all the items, though I haven't had time to put fingers to keyboard and comment. Suffice to say, they are all great items. I will find time to post some comments at some point.
I will go on record right now, in order to make sure that I don't say anything stupid, I probably won't comment on the archetypes until after round 2 voting has closed. I will read them all, but I personally am going to refrain to posting. It seems to be far too easy to upset the voting audience by commenting on stuff, odd as it seems.
Same here; to the extent that I didn't even post on any of the items. Last year I made a point to comment on all the top 32; it seemed only polite, since people were giving feedback on mine. Then I read comments, around the time the round 2 entries were revealed, where a couple voters were complaining because they thought the contestants should just shut the hell up or something. Don't know if I was one of the ones talking too much, but it rankled me. In any event, I was voted out of the contest shortly thereafter, so didn't need to worry about the issue any longer. :-) Still, I think remembering that has altered my posting tendencies this year.
I will say this, though: every contest prior to this year there's always an item or two that makes me say 'really? what were the judges thinking?' I don't feel that for any items this year.
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Paul Brown RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8 aka Isaac Duplechain |
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John Bennett RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 aka John Benbo |
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I'll be at work when they post archetypes. I probably won't check anything until I get home at midnight. Of course, New England may be getting another snowstorm so I might end up with all of Wednesday to read through everything. And I agree with what others have said so far, great items everyone. Out of all the rounds, I look most forward to seeing what you came up with the archetypes.