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![Lord Soth](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/LordSoth.jpg)
It really depends. If it is a targeting burst effect than you suffer major penulties for being blind. It it is a general area affect, it is a bit of a DM's call because we are not familiar with the terrain and you can not tell who has moved within the area you want to target.
For something like Fireball, you actually send out a tiny little ball tht explodes on contact, so it is very difficult to get that little ball where you need it to be exactly and detonate in the actual area you want. Really up to what you want to cast and the DM.
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Dermot Flamegore |
![Adventurer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/34_Adventurer.jpg)
NPC d'Eben wrote:Spellcraft 1d20 + 6
Will Save DC15 1d20 + 7Lame! Someone help me with a rule right quick. Do I have to be able to see to cast an area effect spell? (Specifically a burst spell.) I can't find it mentioned in the book.
You can cast an AoE while blind, but you have to know where to place it. It is not covered how you would do so in the book, so it is up to the DM to decide how you can place without accidentally misjudging the distance. Most likely he will require die rolls and the spell will be off as far as centering.
Edit:What do the different colored tiles on the map represent
Here is DM Barcas' description of the arena.
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
Round 1; Initiative 12
Well, I'd like to try a fireball, anyway. I'll go ahead and roll damage and the intended location (as Kizzle would have seen it before being blinded), and Barcas, let me know whatever hoops you want me to jump through to hit the target point.
"DAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!"
The surprisingly tall, nearly naked but scale-covered gnome lets out a frustrated roar as the motes explode into his eyes... 1d4 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5 copies of himself crying out with him. The six dragon-gnomes - all armed with a rod in one hand and a staff in the other - stumble out of the starting zone (to B-14) and attempt to return fire on his enemies, and they hurl a small bead of flame that crosses the arena, aiming for to catch the emperor in the blast. Trying to target the bottom-right corner of V-13.
Fire Damage 9d6 + 9 ⇒ (6, 3, 1, 5, 4, 1, 3, 4, 3) + 9 = 39.
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DM Barcas |
![Trumpets](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Plot-trumpets.jpg)
The crowd cheers and whoops at Saria's ditty, with one overexcited fan screaming, "OH SNAP!" at the top of his lungs.
You can speak at will, just don't write a soliloquy.
To move something on the map, make sure you are signed in, then select your picture. Once selected, you can grab it at the top and move it around.
For spells with obvious visual effects, reduce the DC of the Spellcraft roll by 5.
The waterfall is not coming down with much force, so it doesn't offer much more than visual cover.
You don't have to be able to see, but your last-known information will rapidly become unreliable. From your current position, you have to be fairly accurate to clear the walls directly in front of you. You'll have a 25% chance to hit the wall (which might hit you), a 25% chance to shoot too high and miss entirely, and a 50% chance to be reasonably accurate.
The dark blue is a waterfall from the ceiling. The light blue is a lake of unknown depth. The dark gray is 5' walls. The light gray is 10' pits.
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
25% to bypass the wall 1d100 ⇒ 75
25% to shoot too high 1d100 ⇒ 39
50% to be "reasonably accurate" 1d100 ⇒ 6
So, looks like it bypassed both obstacles but isnt' "reasonably accurate"... where does it go?
Or was I supposed to add those up to make me 100% guaranteed to miss? :D
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DM Barcas |
![Trumpets](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Plot-trumpets.jpg)
Should have been more clear. 1-25 hits the wall, 26-50 goes too high, 51-100 hits reasonably accurately. Since your first roll was a 75, that's what we'll use. It hits reasonably accurately.
The gnome launches a fireball blindly, a dangerous move that excites the crowd to no end. It explodes on the other side, scorching Raspin and Saria.
DC 19 to save for half of 39 damage.
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Raspin |
![Spell Sovereign](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/33_Spell-Sovereign.jpg)
I can't move my image. I keep getting a circle with a line through it. I know I am signed in because I am signed into my other email account and at the top-right corner of the screen I have the option to "sign out".
PS:I know it is not my turn I just wanted to make sure it worked.
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![Shorafa Pamodae](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Paizo_P13_Tiefling-Prostit.jpg)
Reflex Save:1d20 + 10 ⇒ (12) + 10 = 22
Saria ducks and makes herself as small as possible as the blinded gnome's spell shoots toward them.
14 points of fire damage taken.
I can't move my picture either, and I'm using the email I gave you.
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Raspin |
![Spell Sovereign](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/33_Spell-Sovereign.jpg)
round 1, initiative 9
Reflex Save 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (10) + 5 = 15
standard action:Channel 3d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 4) = 16
Move Action and Free action:
Move up to U 13, and drop to one knee so the other team won't know where I am.
Free Action(in a low voice): "We need to split up"
Raspin is obviously not paying attention when a little red comes over the top of the wall. He is scorched, and not to happy about it.
Edit:My current location is currently unknown by anyone except Saria
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wraithstrike |
![Brother Swarm](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9044_BrotherSwarm.jpg)
That's strange, as you all definitely have permission. Try signing out and back in. Make sure it's the email you gave me earlier. If not, give me whatever email you're signing in under and I'll put that in as well.
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
I forgot to make a will save vs the blindness at the end of my round. 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (7) + 7 = 14.
Sigh. Blind another round.
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Dermot Flamegore |
![Adventurer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/34_Adventurer.jpg)
Ok. I have access now. I had to click on the Share button and copy/paste the link into another tab.
To move your picture...Click on it and you will see a menu bar appear above it. Move your cursor to the right of the little black arrow and it will turn into a hand with all fingers spread apart (not just one finger pointing up). You should be able to click and drag your picture.
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![Sir Holton](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/8.SerHolton.jpg)
Round 1, Innitiate 6
Stepping out and seeing the crowd, Inscidia is fully aware that she is expossed wearing little while she blows a few sensual kissed towards the crowd. Not seeing any of her so-called opponents just yet, she goes for an aggresive move.
Breaking into a full run, she leaps across barriers then falls down low, flipping over minor inconveniences, twistng and tumbling over and around cover.
As she passes her team mates, she blows them each a good luck kiss and a wink, "Remember, I can take it, so let them have it. . ."
Double Move to area 10 S, taking a little extra time to show off to the crowd.
Acrobatics: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (9) + 14 = 23
See a freaking dragon, and knowing that it sees her, she is a little uncertain. Not scarred, but definetly not expecting to see that. "Um, guys, since when did they allow dragons. Guys. . .?"
Filled in a little of he map too. Hope that is ok.
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Torinath's Gladiator |
![Ghoul](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Horrors-Shade.jpg)
Round 2; Initiative 22
Sammy watches the agile lady leap over the wall with ease and then run to the wall beside his team. As he wheels around Shadowtooth to face her she looks up and sees him. He smiles widely as his legs squeeze against Shadowtooth and he screams, “Ya!” as he charges towards her lowering his lance.
(Swift Action) Sammy’s lance begins to emit faint whisps of smoke as he lowers it to charge: Arcane Strike.
(Full Round Action)As Shadowtooth charges Sammy aims his lance at Inscidia:
Damage: 3d8 + 36 ⇒ (7, 4, 4) + 36 = 51
Meanwhile, Shadowtooth pounces on Inscidia:
Attack: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (18) + 16 = 34
Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11
Bite:
Attack: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (16) + 16 = 32
Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14
Two claws:
Attack: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (13) + 16 = 29
Damage: 1d6 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10
Attack: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (1) + 16 = 17
Damage: 1d6 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9
Tail Slap:
Attack: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (17) + 11 = 28
Damage: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5
Shadowtooth and Sammy stopped 5’ off the ground next to Inscidia
-1 AC (+1 Haste, -2 Charge)
Haste: 7 rounds left
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![Sir Holton](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/8.SerHolton.jpg)
Hold on a sec, so your dragon icon is both your characters? I didn't know that or I would have stopped and grappled it rather than double moving. All but the Lance and the second claw hits. Also if the mount is charging for the Pounce, doesn't that mean either you do not get a Lance attack or your mount stops to far away for the Pounce?
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![Sir Holton](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/8.SerHolton.jpg)
Thats fine, I just didn't know it represented both of them on the map or I would have acted differenty.
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Raspin |
![Spell Sovereign](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/33_Spell-Sovereign.jpg)
I do think better introductions are in order for future combats. Things such as what weapons people are holding should be known. As for the mounted thing the rider occupies every space the mount does. If a rider does not have his own icon it is safe to assume he is mounted.
@Dermot:I am not going to metagame, but you should spoiler potions. :)
PS:The entire thing should have "ooc" color.
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
Reposted from last page.
INITIATIVE COUNT
22 Samuel "Sammy" Torinath (Team Blue)
19 Dermot Flamegore (Team Red)
18 Saria Nefar (Team Blue)
12 Kizzle Brass-hide (Emperor, Team Red)
9 Raspin (Emperor, Team Blue)
6 Inscidia (Team Red)
Saria's up at 18.
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wraithstrike |
![Brother Swarm](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9044_BrotherSwarm.jpg)
Round 2, Initiative 18
Posting for Saria
Free Action:Continues bardic performance
Move Action: Saria move to U8
Standard Action:
Each affected creature gains a +2 morale bonus on saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls.
80 rounds
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
The little dragon-man continues yelling vileness, clawing at his eyes to remove the motes. He does, however, pull a potion from his waist, open it and drink it as he does so, lifting slightly off the ground.
He flies a 5' step to 5' off the ground in square C-15.
Move action to draw potion, Standard to drink it.
Will save vs. blindness DC 15 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (8) + 7 = 15.
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![Shorafa Pamodae](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Paizo_P13_Tiefling-Prostit.jpg)
Apologies for my vanishing act. Weekdays are the easiest time for me to post, and I can't believe I forgot to mention that. Running my character while I'm gone is appreciated, since it keeps the game moving.
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![Sir Holton](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/8.SerHolton.jpg)
Cursing her luck, she decided to reposition and get a new start.
Withdraw to D7, going all the way around the pits. The first square doesn't count for AoO, and being 5ft high I should be out of range of the Lance otherwise, is that correct?
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Raspin |
![Spell Sovereign](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/33_Spell-Sovereign.jpg)
Cursing her luck, she decided to reposition and get a new start.
Withdraw to D7, going all the way around the pits. The first square doesn't count for AoO, and being 5ft high I should be out of range of the Lance otherwise, is that correct?
Correct the first square does not count. don't forget to put the round and initiative if this is your actual post though.
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Torinath's Gladiator |
![Ghoul](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Horrors-Shade.jpg)
Cursing her luck, she decided to reposition and get a new start.
Withdraw to D7, going all the way around the pits. The first square doesn't count for AoO, and being 5ft high I should be out of range of the Lance otherwise, is that correct?
I will ignore the AoO, if one is legal, for the sake of expediency :). Is that your action?
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wraithstrike |
![Brother Swarm](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9044_BrotherSwarm.jpg)
Inscidia wrote:I will ignore the AoO, if one is legal, for the sake of expediency :). Is that your action?Cursing her luck, she decided to reposition and get a new start.
Withdraw to D7, going all the way around the pits. The first square doesn't count for AoO, and being 5ft high I should be out of range of the Lance otherwise, is that correct?
I think it was. Now we can move on. She just wanted to know if she could do it without getting slapped in the face by an attack.
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Torinath's Gladiator |
![Ghoul](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Horrors-Shade.jpg)
Round 3; Initiative 22
Seeing Inscidia flee before him Sammy yells to the crowd, “I thought we were here to fight, not run! This is a battle, not a marathon.” Sammy and Shadowtooth’s heads follow Inscidia as she runs away from them around the pits and to the other side of the arena. Observing the path she has chosen he cries, ”You should have run to cover, YA!” and urges Shadowtooth to charge her.
Shadowtooth charges Inscidia, ending at E8-F9, still 5' above the ground.
(Swift Action) Sammy’s lance begins to emit faint whisps of smoke as he lowers it to charge: Arcane Strike.
(Full Round Action)As Shadowtooth charges Sammy aims his lance at Inscidia:
Attack: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (13) + 18 = 31
Damage: 3d8 + 42 ⇒ (1, 1, 1) + 42 = 45
Meanwhile, Shadowtooth pounces on Inscidia:
Hasted Bite Attack:
Attack: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (15) + 18 = 33
Damage: 1d8 + 10 ⇒ (5) + 10 = 15
Bite:
Attack: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (14) + 18 = 32
Damage: 1d8 + 10 ⇒ (8) + 10 = 18
Two claws:
Attack: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (19) + 18 = 37
Damage: 1d6 + 10 ⇒ (5) + 10 = 15
Attack: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (20) + 18 = 38
Damage: 1d6 + 10 ⇒ (4) + 10 = 14
Tail Slap:
Attack: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (2) + 13 = 15
Damage: 1d8 + 6 ⇒ (7) + 6 = 13
+5 Attack (+1 Haste, +2 Charge, +2 Good Hope)
+2 Damage (+2 Good Hope)
-1 AC (+1 Haste, -2 Charge)
Haste: 6 rounds left
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Dermot Flamegore |
![Adventurer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/34_Adventurer.jpg)
Round 3, Initiative 19
Dermot watches in horror as the rider strikes Inscidia with his lance. Screaming with rage he pulls out a bomb as he flies over the wall towards the waterfall. "Eat this!" he yells as he hurls the bomb at the creature's head.
Move to J12. 15' elevation.
Attack creature and rider with Stink Bomb (touch attack): 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (20) + 13 = 33
Cloud covers D7-E10.
[ooc]Fort save DC 19 for both creature and rider or be affected as Stinking Cloud
Cloud lasts for 1 round. If failed save, then Nauseated while in cloud and for 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3 after leaving cloud.
Can you crit with a Stink Bomb? The only variable is the rounds after leaving the cloud. Not sure, but here is the confirmation, just in case.
1d20 + 13 ⇒ (18) + 13 = 31
1d4 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
The green boxes are the cloud.
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NPC d'Eben |
![Xotani](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-13.jpg)
Saria's up. (DB3 said he could post later tonight.)
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Torinath's Gladiator |
![Ghoul](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Horrors-Shade.jpg)
Round 3, Initiative 19
Dermot watches in horror as the rider strikes Inscidia with his lance. Screaming with rage he pulls out a bomb as he flies over the wall towards the waterfall. "Eat this!" he yells as he hurls the bomb at the creature's head.
Move to J12. 15' elevation.
** spoiler omitted **
Sammy's Fort: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (1) + 9 = 10
Shadowtooth's Fort: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (6) + 10 = 16
Perception: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (20) + 12 = 32
Edit: Subtle gagging and gasping begins to emit from the green fog that enveloped Sammy and Shadowtooth. Joining the subtle gagging is some very loud hacking, like a huge dog choking on a bone
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![Sir Holton](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/8.SerHolton.jpg)
nah, they are flying so at the very least the Lance hits and that is more than enough to kill me outright. No worries, though.